What it means is Hamas is very soon to be done in the Gaza Strip.  Yes many will die including Israelis.  Israel also knows its going to suffer heavy casualties rooting out the strip.  Hamas fucked up big with the level of barbarism.  There are factions within Hamas wanting to release women and children hostages as a way to walk it back a bit.  The handwriting is on the wall.

This aired 9 years ago.

If you'd like to see how absolutely nothing has changed in the conversation around Israel & Palestine despite decades of violence, here's Jon Stewart doing a bit that could literally air today without a single change. pic.twitter.com/D0yrtaAsac

— Cooper (@Cooperstreaming) October 11, 2023

The fact he hit Ukraine at the end there is pretty amazing. 

I was always kinda like most and thought Poor Israel, bad Muslims. But when you hear about the history between the two and the blatant bias and propaganda from the media for Israel… it does make you question if there is even a good guy here. 

posted by kizer permanente

I was always kinda like most and thought Poor Israel, bad Muslims. But when you hear about the history between the two and the blatant bias and propaganda from the media for Israel… it does make you question if there is even a good guy here. 

Yea the pro Israel media is crazy! (Wtf you talking about)? Might be no “good guys” but one murders children and women and one doesn’t. Are you dumb?

posted by iclfan2

Yea the pro Israel media is crazy! (Wtf you talking about)? Might be no “good guys” but one murders children and women and one doesn’t. Are you dumb?

No they both do… same with the US. and fuck off, you’re not nearly as smart as you think lol  

Splain this to me please in baseball terms

Thx

posted by kizer permanente

No they both do… same with the US. and fuck off, you’re not nearly as smart as you think lol  

People die during war, yes. If you can’t differentiate what those terrorists did, you’re an idiot. Which isn’t surprising since you also don’t see how the media, like the rest of the left, are on the side of the terrorists. For two days lefty Twitter has been arguing that sure, killing 40 babies is bad, but they didn’t actually behead them all!

posted by Ironman92

Splain this to me please in baseball terms

Thx

The Astros (Palestine) and Yankees (Israel) are playing in the ALCS. The Astros are known cheaters, but still have loyal fans that will back them no matter what. The Yankees haven't always played by the rules, but are the popular pick to support in the series. No one wants to admit that their team has done anything wrong and both think the other team will cheat to win. In the end, everyone loses, because one has to move on to the World Series.

I tried to fulfill your request, and I probably did a bad job at it. 

posted by brutus161

The Astros (Palestine) and Yankees (Israel) are playing in the ALCS. The Astros are known cheaters, but still have loyal fans that will back them no matter what. The Yankees haven't always played by the rules, but are the popular pick to support in the series. No one wants to admit that their team has done anything wrong and both think the other team will cheat to win. In the end, everyone loses, because one has to move on to the World Series.

I tried to fulfill your request, and I probably did a bad job at it. 

It’s fairly accurate especially since the “Yankees” have the financial backing of the US and they are the rich team in baseball.

posted by iclfan2

People die during war, yes. If you can’t differentiate what those terrorists did, you’re an idiot. Which isn’t surprising since you also don’t see how the media, like the rest of the left, are on the side of the terrorists. For two days lefty Twitter has been arguing that sure, killing 40 babies is bad, but they didn’t actually behead them all!

Good double standard. 

I guess Palestinians that die during Israeli air strikes and the incoming invasion are acceptable casualties to you then? 

This is the thing that annoys me. Blatant bias and double standards against the Palestinian people. I'm not talking about Hamas and the PA that need to be eliminated and removed, but the actual civilians that are caught in the cross fire.

posted by brutus161

The Astros (Palestine) and Yankees (Israel) are playing in the ALCS. The Astros are known cheaters, but still have loyal fans that will back them no matter what. The Yankees haven't always played by the rules, but are the popular pick to support in the series. No one wants to admit that their team has done anything wrong and both think the other team will cheat to win. In the end, everyone loses, because one has to move on to the World Series.

I tried to fulfill your request, and I probably did a bad job at it. 

Impressive.

posted by brutus161

The Astros (Palestine) and Yankees (Israel) are playing in the ALCS. The Astros are known cheaters, but still have loyal fans that will back them no matter what. The Yankees haven't always played by the rules, but are the popular pick to support in the series. No one wants to admit that their team has done anything wrong and both think the other team will cheat to win. In the end, everyone loses, because one has to move on to the World Series.

I tried to fulfill your request, and I probably did a bad job at it. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Good double standard. 

I guess Palestinians that die during Israeli air strikes and the incoming invasion are acceptable casualties to you then? 

This is the thing that annoys me. Blatant bias and double standards against the Palestinian people. I'm not talking about Hamas and the PA that need to be eliminated and removed, but the actual civilians that are caught in the cross fire.

Honest question here.

How does one remove Hamas and the PA with zero civilian casualties. No one is saying civilians dying is a good thing. I think most understand that there is a terrible thing in war where civilians are caught in the cross fire.

Comparing/equating that to beheading babies though is rather asinine.

Good analogy. I'll go a step further. 

Brooklyn Dodgers (Palestinians). They have lived in or around the area since mankind started recording things in Jerusalem. But then the Yankees (Jews) came around, and claimed they had been around forever and the land is theirs. The Yankees were more popular than the Dodgers and the rest of the world fell in line. The Dodgers were forced out, but lots of fans remained. Then the world realized that was wrong, and forced the New York (now named Isreal) to be split, so they gave the Palestinians a new "state" (Gaza Strip/West Bank) called the Mets. Now the Mets and Yankees fight over New York control, and Yankees for the most part rule the roost, and the media loves them, but the Mets occasionally make a good point and people jump on their bandwagon. But then they do something stupid and its back to being the Mets.  

That was pretty crude; but trying to bring a little land battle to this, which is what so much of this started over.

posted by jmog

Honest question here.

How does one remove Hamas and the PA with zero civilian casualties. No one is saying civilians dying is a good thing. I think most understand that there is a terrible thing in war where civilians are caught in the cross fire.

Comparing/equating that to beheading babies though is rather asinine.

You can't, but Israel is going to try. If it was easy, would have been done. 

I am equating them because a dead civilian kid is the same no matter the side, doesn't matter if it how Hamas did it or an Israeli airstrike. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

I am equating them because a dead civilian kid is the same no matter the side, doesn't matter if it how Hamas did it or an Israeli airstrike. 

 

Lol no

posted by iclfan2

Lol no

C'mon, now!  When the terrorists use human shields, you are no longer allowed to defend yourself otherwise you are just as bad as the terrorists...

posted by brutus161

The Astros (Palestine) and Yankees (Israel) are playing in the ALCS. The Astros are known cheaters, but still have loyal fans that will back them no matter what. The Yankees haven't always played by the rules, but are the popular pick to support in the series. No one wants to admit that their team has done anything wrong and both think the other team will cheat to win. In the end, everyone loses, because one has to move on to the World Series.

I tried to fulfill your request, and I probably did a bad job at it. 

Not bad at all

posted by Laley23

Good analogy. I'll go a step further. 

Brooklyn Dodgers (Palestinians). They have lived in or around the area since mankind started recording things in Jerusalem. But then the Yankees (Jews) came around, and claimed they had been around forever and the land is theirs. The Yankees were more popular than the Dodgers and the rest of the world fell in line. The Dodgers were forced out, but lots of fans remained. Then the world realized that was wrong, and forced the New York (now named Isreal) to be split, so they gave the Palestinians a new "state" (Gaza Strip/West Bank) called the Mets. Now the Mets and Yankees fight over New York control, and Yankees for the most part rule the roost, and the media loves them, but the Mets occasionally make a good point and people jump on their bandwagon. But then they do something stupid and its back to being the Mets.  

That was pretty crude; but trying to bring a little land battle to this, which is what so much of this started over.

 

A+

I now understand way more than I did….seriously

posted by Laley23

Good analogy. I'll go a step further. 

Brooklyn Dodgers (Palestinians). They have lived in or around the area since mankind started recording things in Jerusalem. But then the Yankees (Jews) came around, and claimed they had been around forever and the land is theirs. The Yankees were more popular than the Dodgers and the rest of the world fell in line. The Dodgers were forced out, but lots of fans remained. Then the world realized that was wrong, and forced the New York (now named Isreal) to be split, so they gave the Palestinians a new "state" (Gaza Strip/West Bank) called the Mets. Now the Mets and Yankees fight over New York control, and Yankees for the most part rule the roost, and the media loves them, but the Mets occasionally make a good point and people jump on their bandwagon. But then they do something stupid and its back to being the Mets.  

That was pretty crude; but trying to bring a little land battle to this, which is what so much of this started over.

 

With how I read that Qatar is saying that if Israel doesn't stop bombing Gaza, they're not gonna release any more gas to the world, does that equate to this Yankees-Mets game now being ump'd by Angel Hernandez in some way, shape or form?

https://nypost.com/2023/10/09/suspended-iran-special-envoy-rob-malley-under-scrutiny-for-hamas-remarks-following-israel-terror-attack/

“Rob Malley deserves extensive scrutiny — yesterday, today and tomorrow,” Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) told The Post after the Wall Street Journal reported that officers of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps planned and signed off on this weekend’s atrocity that killed at least 900.

“These reports could not be more concerning, and they hint at what could be the worst State Department scandal since Alger Hiss,” Issa added.

“Malley and others created an incredibly permissive environment for Hamas, for Iran, to do all these things,” added Gabriel Noronha, a former special adviser on Iran at the State Department.

posted by Heretic

With how I read that Qatar is saying that if Israel doesn't stop bombing Gaza, they're not gonna release any more gas to the world, does that equate to this Yankees-Mets game now being ump'd by Angel Hernandez in some way, shape or form?

LOL'd. But I think it would be Tim Doughney. Cause Qatar is picking a side and trying to fix the game. 

posted by Heretic

With how I read that Qatar is saying that if Israel doesn't stop bombing Gaza, they're not gonna release any more gas to the world, does that equate to this Yankees-Mets game now being ump'd by Angel Hernandez in some way, shape or form?

posted by ptown_trojans_1

You can't, but Israel is going to try. If it was easy, would have been done. 

I am equating them because a dead civilian kid is the same no matter the side, doesn't matter if it how Hamas did it or an Israeli airstrike. 

 

One side is targeting innocent civilians, while the other side is giving warning to get out before the invasion. Two completely different approaches.