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Spock

Senior Member

Sat, Jan 19, 2019 10:53 AM
posted by like_that

The Navy Federal Credit Union is paying its members their paychecks during the shutdown. 

because they know that the government easily spends other peoples money and will pay every cent to the people not getting a pay check

gut

Senior Member

Sat, Jan 19, 2019 6:41 PM

So the Trump campaign is letting people donate to send fake bricks to Pelosi.

Brilliant and hilarious....although I'm not quite sure why they don't send real bricks.

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 11:14 AM
posted by gut

So the Trump campaign is letting people donate to send fake bricks to Pelosi.

Brilliant and hilarious....although I'm not quite sure why they don't send real bricks.

Yeah, I saw that.  An acquaintance of mine sent something like five.

Seems silly to me, but hey, it's his money.  And it's a good fundraising strategy.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 11:31 AM

https://twitter.com/Jesus_was_a_Lib/status/1087494778944516096

I am a 30-yr Federal employee who’s been on furlough since 12/29. I received half my paycheck on 01/07. My mortgage payment & 2 car payments are late & today I was ordered back to work for no pay. If I don’t show up, I will be fired. If you support trump, I hope you rot in hell.

You've been working in the federal govt for 30 years and are still living paycheck to paycheck? That's not Trump's fault, dude.

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 11:32 AM
posted by justincredible

https://twitter.com/Jesus_was_a_Lib/status/1087494778944516096

You've been working in the federal govt for 30 years and are still living paycheck to paycheck? That's not Trump's fault, dude.

This. If you're someone who just started their career, and was a victim of bad timing, I feel for you. Otherwise, the fault for your life being substantially affected by missing a couple of paychecks is 100% yours. I feel far worse for the private sector victims of the shutdown, those who are damaged by the agencies they're forced to deal with not being open.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 11:35 AM
posted by justincredible

https://twitter.com/Jesus_was_a_Lib/status/1087494778944516096

You've been working in the federal govt for 30 years and are still living paycheck to paycheck? That's not Trump's fault, dude.

lol. No chance he is telling the truth, or he's a moron.

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 11:40 AM
posted by justincredible

https://twitter.com/Jesus_was_a_Lib/status/1087494778944516096

You've been working in the federal govt for 30 years and are still living paycheck to paycheck? That's not Trump's fault, dude.

Yeah, I have a few friends that are furloughed, but have funds stashed up so they are fine...for now. 

My guess is while he may be a 30 year employee, he is either low on the GSA payscale, or sucks at saving. 

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 12:06 PM
posted by justincredible

https://twitter.com/Jesus_was_a_Lib/status/1087494778944516096

You've been working in the federal govt for 30 years and are still living paycheck to paycheck? That's not Trump's fault, dude.

Holy hell.

See, this is why I never go on Twitter.  I made the mistake of reading a few of the comments as well.  Won't make that mistake again for awhile.
 

posted by iclfan2

lol. No chance he is telling the truth, or he's a moron.

I'm guessing the latter.

 

 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Yeah, I have a few friends that are furloughed, but have funds stashed up so they are fine...for now. 

My guess is while he may be a 30 year employee, he is either low on the GSA payscale, or sucks at saving. 

Definitely the latter.  Couple be both, but definitely the latter.  If he's been working for 30 years, unless he's had some significant and unusual financial crises recently, there's no reason he shouldn't have at least few months' worth saved up.

 

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 12:13 PM

You've got two car payments but don't have an emergency savings built up. Again, not Trump's fault. I hate that these people make me defend that jackass.

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 12:25 PM
posted by justincredible

You've got two car payments but don't have an emergency savings built up. Again, not Trump's fault. I hate that these people make me defend that jackass.

Same.

I feel the same way with people who are house poor.

gut

Senior Member

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 12:44 PM
posted by justincredible

You've got two car payments but don't have an emergency savings built up. Again, not Trump's fault. I hate that these people make me defend that jackass.

Nothing anyone is saying here is wrong, but it doesn't change the reality that 70-80% of American live paycheck-to-paycheck (some of whom are making pretty good money).

Blame cheap credit and an inability to live within one's means.  The real reason most Americans can't afford healthcare?  Because there are too many other luxury items they're trying to afford first.  Nowhere is this better illustrated than smart phones - I saw many complaining on message boards about being "locked into plans" because they couldn't afford to pay retail for a phone - meaning they didn't have $600 in savings to buy a phone.  And, of course, these were the same people upgrading a perfectly good phone every YEAR.

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 2:17 PM
posted by gut

Nothing anyone is saying here is wrong, but it doesn't change the reality that 70-80% of American live paycheck-to-paycheck (some of whom are making pretty good money).

Blame cheap credit and an inability to live within one's means.  The real reason most Americans can't afford healthcare?  Because there are too many other luxury items they're trying to afford first.  Nowhere is this better illustrated than smart phones - I saw many complaining on message boards about being "locked into plans" because they couldn't afford to pay retail for a phone - meaning they didn't have $600 in savings to buy a phone.  And, of course, these were the same people upgrading a perfectly good phone every YEAR.

Not to mention the fact that, as it stands, there are enough people doing this that you could find a fully functional, well-maintained, used phone for less than half of the cost if you wanted to.

And of course, we need Hulu, Netflix, Prime, etc.  We must be entertained, after all.

Devils Advocate

Brudda o da bomber

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 2:41 PM
posted by O-Trap

Not to mention the fact that, as it stands, there are enough people doing this that you could find a fully functional, well-maintained, used phone for less than half of the cost if you wanted to.

And of course, we need Hulu, Netflix, Prime, etc.  We must be entertained, after all.

 

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typed on my sons old iPhone 6 plus

 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 2:48 PM

This is why I love MD Governor Hogan. I voted for the guy two months ago and hopes he primaries Trump:

Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) compared President Trump and congressional leaders to “a bunch of 2-year-olds” on Thursday and said they should stop playing “stupid political games” amid the longest-ever partial closure of the federal government.

“It’s crazy. ‘If I don’t get my wall, I’m going to shut down the government.’ ‘If we don’t open the government, you can’t speak in our chamber,’ ” Hogan said, mocking the postures the president and House Speaker Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) have taken.

“It’s a bunch of 2-year-olds, you know? Let’s figure out border security, and let’s get people to work, and let’s let the State of the Union take place like it always does.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/hogan-on-shutdown-trump-pelosi-are-like-a-bunch-of-2-year-olds/2019/01/24/2e4d77ec-2006-11e9-8e21-59a09ff1e2a1_story.html?utm_term=.eac01592f2d2 

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 3:23 PM
posted by O-Trap

Not to mention the fact that, as it stands, there are enough people doing this that you could find a fully functional, well-maintained, used phone for less than half of the cost if you wanted to.

And of course, we need Hulu, Netflix, Prime, etc.  We must be entertained, after all.

Yeah, there are a million or so forms of disposable entertainment out there and as a society, we have this fixation on "keeping up with the Joneses". Hell, as I've gotten older, I've gotten a lot better of shutting off the little voice that says "BUY THIS!!!!", but I'll still be at a friend's house and see some new contraption he bought and feel the itch to get it because it looks cool or seems like it might be useful down the road at some point in time.

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 3:46 PM

Huh, so the two dueling Senate Bills to reopen the Government both failed. But, more Rs voted for the Democratic Bill, which is a clean CR, than voted for the Republican Bill, which had wall funding. 

Sounds like more Rs are defecting from the Trump position, at least in the Senate. 

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 4:13 PM
posted by Heretic

Yeah, there are a million or so forms of disposable entertainment out there and as a society, we have this fixation on "keeping up with the Joneses". Hell, as I've gotten older, I've gotten a lot better of shutting off the little voice that says "BUY THIS!!!!", but I'll still be at a friend's house and see some new contraption he bought and feel the itch to get it because it looks cool or seems like it might be useful down the road at some point in time.

Sure.  Absolutely.  I get it.  I feel it too.

But we're supposed to be adults now.  You know ... self-control and shit.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 4:40 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Huh, so the two dueling Senate Bills to reopen the Government both failed. But, more Rs voted for the Democratic Bill, which is a clean CR, than voted for the Republican Bill, which had wall funding. 

Sounds like more Rs are defecting from the Trump position, at least in the Senate. 

 

 

That’s because there are always a couple of RINO’s who always do this, while the dems always circle the wagons.  But you knew this.

Spock

Senior Member

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 6:07 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Huh, so the two dueling Senate Bills to reopen the Government both failed. But, more Rs voted for the Democratic Bill, which is a clean CR, than voted for the Republican Bill, which had wall funding. 

Sounds like more Rs are defecting from the Trump position, at least in the Senate. 

They know trump is funding the wall another way....no need to vote yes

bigorangebuck22

Senior Member

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 7:56 PM
posted by Spock

They know trump is funding the wall another way....no need to vote yes

is Mexico cutting a check?

Spock

Senior Member

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 8:49 PM
posted by bigorangebuck22

is Mexico cutting a check?

You do realize that the new trade deal that Mexico was forced into saves $7 billion a year for the US.

 

Boom....Mexico is paying for something

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 10:29 PM
posted by Spock

You do realize that the new trade deal that Mexico was forced into saves $7 billion a year for the US.

 

Boom....Mexico is paying for something

That's not how trade surpluses and deficits work. Also, there is nothing in the new text that forces Mexico to pay. 

thavoice

Senior Member

Thu, Jan 24, 2019 10:56 PM
posted by justincredible

You've got two car payments but don't have an emergency savings built up. Again, not Trump's fault. I hate that these people make me defend that jackass.

My first goal was 6 months saved up for all bills and some day to day expenses and once I did that, I am working on a full year in an account I will not touch.

 

I still use a flip phone believe it or not and get away with 15 dollars a month on spectrum mobile!