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QuakerOats

Senior Member

Thu, Jun 23, 2022 3:33 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Does the state control the oil industry? 


Does the federal government (under leftists) overregulate through the use of force and create a hostile environment within which to operate?

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Thu, Jun 23, 2022 3:44 PM
posted by QuakerOats


Does the federal government (under leftists) overregulate through the use of force and create a hostile environment within which to operate?

That is not communism...

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Thu, Jun 23, 2022 4:02 PM

ok

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Thu, Jun 23, 2022 6:16 PM
posted by QuakerOats


Does the federal government (under leftists) overregulate through the use of force and create a hostile environment within which to operate?

Based upon the profitability of the energy producers in this country and elsewhere, I’d say the environment’s far from hostile.  


gut

Senior Member

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 12:23 AM

Initially, I thought "what a disaster".  This was bound to result in even lower approval for Biden.

And then I thought about the political angle.  If it gets rejected in Congress, then Biden will blame Republicans for blocking his solutions.  And if it goes thru, then Biden will blame gas stations for gouging (which he's been teeing-up for months).  So, purely a political calculation.

I doubt it makes hay.  But when you can't actually do anything in the short-term, this is a bold political move.  Nevermind Biden's policies haven't been felt yet, but WILL be felt in the coming years.

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 12:29 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Good point. 

Also, feels like Mike "never had a losing season" Tomlin

jmog

Senior Member

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 5:25 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

It's dumb as it kind of goes against the whole rebuilding infrastructure part of his platform and administration.

Plus, no one in Congress wants to do it nor do many people in the White House.

I am surprised more people on here aren't for it, as it is taking away a tax, even if it is temporary. 

I am all for taking away taxes. But realistically the average person uses about 15 gal a week of gas. That’s like $2.50/week savings or a total of like $30 over the time frame he is talking.


It’s a drop in the bucket.


geeblock

Member

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 7:26 AM

If dewine did the same with the state gas tax along with the Biden plan that would make a diff

jmog

Senior Member

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 8:18 AM
posted by geeblock

If dewine did the same with the state gas tax along with the Biden plan that would make a diff

$8.50/week for someone who uses 15 gal/week.




ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 10:30 AM
posted by geeblock

If dewine did the same with the state gas tax along with the Biden plan that would make a diff

Except he knows it is dumb. Ohio increased their gas tax a few years ago to pay for improving infrastructure. 

ODOT needs the funds to help improve and grow various infrastructure projects including the Brent Spence Bridge. 

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 10:50 AM
posted by gut

Initially, I thought "what a disaster".  This was bound to result in even lower approval for Biden.

And then I thought about the political angle.  If it gets rejected in Congress, then Biden will blame Republicans for blocking his solutions.  And if it goes thru, then Biden will blame gas stations for gouging (which he's been teeing-up for months).  So, purely a political calculation.

I doubt it makes hay.  But when you can't actually do anything in the short-term, this is a bold political move.  Nevermind Biden's policies haven't been felt yet, but WILL be felt in the coming years.


He's blamed everyone else, despite his pledge that the buck stops with him.  Nobody is fooled by the bullshit.  This presidency has sunk.

majorspark

Senior Member

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 12:44 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

You must dig like a miner for this stuff everyday.  

I saw it and did not have to dig at all. 

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 12:45 PM
posted by majorspark

I saw it and did not have to dig at all. 

He doesn’t understand how Twitter works. 


ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 12:48 PM

It's bad no doubt. But, it was crickets on here when Trump's notes were way worse.

But, oh we all hate Trump blah blah. 

And before this gets taken out of context. I said, this is a bad look for Biden. I am being consistent as both the look for Biden and Trump on notes are horrible. 

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 12:49 PM
posted by iclfan2

He doesn’t understand how Twitter works. 


Holy shit that's real?

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 12:52 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

It's bad no doubt. But, it was crickets on here when Trump's notes were way worse.

Except Trump's notes often read like a guy with no filter and trouble showing empathy.  Biden's notes read like a guy who sometimes struggles to remember to wipe his own ass.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 12:58 PM
posted by iclfan2

He doesn’t understand how Twitter works. 


I understand twitter just fine.  Bottom line is if your coming up with outrage like this about any politician - left or right - you are seeking said outrage.  


I assume every president gets some sort of crib sheet like this.  Who gives a fuck?  The guy’s got enough drawbacks without pretending that something this ordinary is some sort of cataclysmic discovery.


superman

Senior Member

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 1:06 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

It's bad no doubt. But, it was crickets on here when Trump's notes were way worse.

But, oh we all hate Trump blah blah. 

And before this gets taken out of context. I said, this is a bad look for Biden. I am being consistent as both the look for Biden and Trump on notes are horrible. 

What about...

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 1:07 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I understand twitter just fine.  Bottom line is if your coming up with outrage like this about any politician - left or right - you are seeking said outrage.  


I assume every president gets some sort of crib sheet like this.  Who gives a fuck?  The guy’s got enough drawbacks without pretending that something this ordinary is some sort of cataclysmic discovery.


All presidents get notes. Fact. Trump had some handwritten dumb ones. How many presidents gets notes saying “YOU take YOUR seat”. They’re treating him like the geriatric we all observe. 


ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 1:12 PM

Loving the backbending logic here...

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 1:12 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Loving the backbending logic here...

K. Show me the notes that are as bad. 


Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Fri, Jun 24, 2022 1:16 PM
posted by iclfan2

All presidents get notes. Fact. Trump had some handwritten dumb ones. How many presidents gets notes saying “YOU take YOUR seat”. They’re treating him like the geriatric we all observe. 


A president does these things everyday.  They’re all somewhat ceremonial, so they’re giving him his steps much like someone gets during wedding rehearsal.  Executives at big corporations get this kind of shit too.


Biden is not a competent president.  But this isn’t an example of that.  If it were, just about every executive and political leader would be judged the same. 


My point wasn’t to defend Biden’s competence.  But rather to point out the time and effort politically radicalized will put forth to hunt down minuscule details in an effort to prove something.  Reminds me of soccer players getting bumped and then falling down in screaming pain.


Gardens35

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Fri, Jun 24, 2022 2:34 PM


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