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CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Sun, Jan 17, 2021 3:10 PM

Fletch

Member

Sun, Jan 17, 2021 3:54 PM

Something has to be done about this.  It’s not normal or “American”

Fletch

Member

Sun, Jan 17, 2021 3:54 PM

Something has to be done about this.  It’s not normal or “American”

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Mon, Jan 18, 2021 2:31 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan


Sickening and dead wrong ......but not surprising.

Fletch

Member

Mon, Jan 18, 2021 6:15 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

1.  The media want a vacuum of thought.  The CNN of the world don’t want any competition.

2.  That guy just made a case for social media to be stripped of the 230 rights


ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Wed, Jan 20, 2021 8:38 AM
posted by like_that

I feel like you either don't know what a slippery slope is or you're purposely playing dumb.  When you have reps/senators proposing these type of committees, that means gets closer and closer to Government deciding which speech they want to regulate.    Yes, I know it was AOC, thus why I said (and you purposely ignored) "Hopefully it's only a handful of the full retard sector...." 

Do you really want a government committee decided which free speech should be censored vs uncensored?  Even if it is with all the people you have your full trust in?   If you say yes, please spare me gblock's  "not all speech is protected/yelling in a theater" bullshit too.  I know you're smarter than that.

Oh, I know what a slippery slope is, you are just full of hot air on the threat. As far as I know the committee is just an idea and is not a serious thing yet. Using AOC an as example is like me using one of the crazy QA people on the Republican's side as an example. You lose credibility. 

And no I do not want a government committee deciding which free speech will be censured v. uncensored, but we are no where near that. Again, you are just crying about a threat that is not there. As usual, you are just making the worst case and screaming about slopes when there are none. 


Back to topic at hand, and actually bringing a potential solution (which you know nothing about as usual), I read an interesting Foreign Affairs article yesterday where they suggest the solution may be middleware. 

"Middleware products can be offered through a variety of approaches. One particularly effective approach would be for users to access the middleware via a technology platform such as Apple or Twitter. Consider news articles on users’ news feeds or popular tweets by political figures. In the background of Apple or Twitter, a middleware service could add labels such as “misleading,” “unverified,” and “lacks context.” When users logged on to Apple and Twitter, they would see these labels on the news articles and tweets. A more interventionist middleware could also influence the rankings for certain feeds, such as Amazon product lists, Facebook advertisements, Google search results, or YouTube video recommendations. For example, consumers could select middleware providers that adjusted their Amazon search results to prioritize products made domestically, eco-friendly products, or lower-priced goods. Middleware could even prevent a user from viewing certain content or block specific information sources or manufacturers altogether.
Each middleware provider would be required to be transparent in its offerings and technical features, so that users could make an informed choice. Providers of middleware would include both companies pursuing improvements to feeds and nonprofits seeking to advance civic values. A journalism school might offer middleware that favored superior reporting and suppressed unverified stories, or a county school board might offer middleware that prioritized local issues. By mediating the relationship between users and the platforms, middleware could cater to individual consumers’ preferences while providing significant resistance to dominant players’ unilateral actions.
Many details would have to be worked out. The first question is how much curation power to transfer to the new companies. At one extreme, middleware providers could completely transform the information presented by the underlying platform to the user, with the platform serving as little more than a neutral pipe. Under this model, middleware alone would determine the substance and priority of Amazon or Google searches, with those platforms merely offering access to their servers. At the other extreme, the platform could continue to curate and rank the content entirely with its own algorithms, and the middleware would serve only as a supplemental filter. Under this model, for example, a Facebook or Twitter interface would remain largely unchanged. Middleware would just fact-check or label content without assigning importance to content or providing more fine-tuned recommendations. 

It has its pluses and minuses, but it an interesting idea. 

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2020-11-24/fukuyama-how-save-democracy-technology

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Sun, Feb 7, 2021 5:04 AM

So, let's talk silppery slopes.


This vid.
MSM essentially supported the BLM/antifa riots, destruction and deaths all last year. Now when non-BLM/antifa people riot with damage and death they're planting the seeds of killing them with drones. 

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, May 5, 2021 9:43 AM

trump moses let my people post


Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Fri, Apr 29, 2022 4:12 PM

I like Musk. Besides being a big idea person - eccentric but brilliant, he pisses off the extremists in both sides.  During Obama’s presidency, I heard a lot of right wingers disparage him as a fraud who only took advantage of government handouts.  Left wingers thought he was a savior for moving us into electric cars and solar panel roofing. Now left wingers are aghast that he’s stepped into the middle of their woke revolution and is threatening to promote free speech by all.  Right wingers act as though he’s a savior for standing up against the woke mob.


Being that he has pissed off these vocal minorities, I’m glad he’s around.


Maybe he could apply his unique thinking to our healthcare system.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Thu, May 12, 2022 2:00 PM

For those that don't want to click the link:

Sounds like she should create her own twitter.

gut

Senior Member

Thu, May 12, 2022 2:13 PM
posted by justincredible

Sounds like she should create her own twitter.

The funny thing is, a "disinformation czar" seems entirely redundant with the job Jen Psaki already does.

Even assuming they don't care about her history of promoting blatantly partisan misinformation, you'd think they would have factored the optics into their choice.  Seems like the Biden version of "hiring the best people".

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Tue, Sep 6, 2022 10:09 AM

if fact checkers were consistent walensky fauci false information account suspended


like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Fri, Dec 9, 2022 4:15 AM

So, the release of the twitter files have so far proven what conservatives have been saying for years and were downplayed as tin foil hat shit.  Keep in mind this is just Twitter.  There is 0 doubt in my mind this happens across all social media platforms AND the mainstream media. 

Inb4 a generally anti free market poster chimes in and contradicts their general views with "A pRiVaTE BuSinESS CAN DuE WaT DeY WaNt."

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Dec 9, 2022 10:35 AM
posted by like_that

Keep in mind this is just Twitter.  There is 0 doubt in my mind this happens across all social media platforms AND the mainstream media.

I would expect Facebook was far worse than Twitter.  Probably Google, too.  I feel like they have a much bigger reach than Twitter, and do more to filter the news people see.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Fri, Dec 9, 2022 10:35 AM

The Twitter Files are indeed revealing exactly what most of us knew was occurring all along.  It is breathtakingly anti-American and no doubt criminal.  Hopefully the executives will be arrested and pay a steep price.  Add in the billions of dollars in value of the unreported in-kind political donations on top of the other abuses and many people need to be heading to prison.  Stunning, but not stunning revelations. 





PS --- and you're exactly correct that the same criminal collusion was occurring at Facebook, Google, Instagram, YouTube etc..etc..

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Fri, Dec 9, 2022 11:04 AM

This twitter files seems like an overt attempt to drum up interest in the platform post purchase.  Who the hell really cares?

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Fri, Dec 9, 2022 11:23 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

This twitter files seems like an overt attempt to drum up interest in the platform post purchase.  Who the hell really cares?


Just people who appreciate the first amendment and dislike election interference.