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CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Tue, Jan 12, 2021 3:06 PM

Oh and let's not forget that FB just suspended Ron Paul's ability to manage his account.

jmog

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 12, 2021 3:38 PM
posted by geeblock

That’s because it never happened lol 


That's bull shit and anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together knows it. 

gut

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 12, 2021 4:01 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Pretty unbelievable.  But not sure it's that hypocritical - very different trying to squash violent and dangerous rhetoric vs. blanket govt censorship.

But I wonder if the FBI wasn't shaking their heads like "what are you doing - on Parler they were all there and out in the open....you just made our job 100X harder"


Also, when the hell did the leftwing radicals start caring about violence against police?

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Tue, Jan 12, 2021 4:24 PM
posted by gut


Also, when the hell did the leftwing radicals start caring about violence against police?

Because AOC said that about 1/2 of Congress was almost killed. 

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Tue, Jan 12, 2021 4:26 PM
posted by gut

Pretty unbelievable.  But not sure it's that hypocritical - very different trying to squash violent and dangerous rhetoric vs. blanket govt censorship.

Remember before the election with the NYPost came out with the Hunter Biden story and FB/Twitter throttled them and anybody else who tried to tweet the story out? During an election?

This tweet is a good rough outline

Laley23

GOAT

Tue, Jan 12, 2021 4:40 PM

Government ordering ISPs to block sites is not close to the same as Private Company Twitter blocking certain people.

You can disagree with Twitters decision, but those 2 things aren’t even close to the same. Bad comparison.

gut

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 12, 2021 4:42 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Remember before the election with the NYPost came out with the Hunter Biden story and FB/Twitter throttled them and anybody else who tried to tweet the story out? During an election?

Didn't someone sue, or attempt to prosecute, the publisher of the National Enquirer for buying the rights for the story of some floosy's affair with Trump and then burying it?

I remember people were saying it was a campaign finance violation.  Well, that sounds an awful lot like what FB/Twitter would be guilty of with the Hunter Biden stuff.

Maybe there's some hope for optimism that the bias/agenda in media and tech is pretty out in the open now, and that will alarm moderate voters and easily give the House to the Repubs in 2022. 

gut

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 12, 2021 4:46 PM
posted by Laley23

Those 2 things aren’t even close to the same. Bad comparison.

I don't know if Twitter is guilty of it specifically, but none of these big tech companies that bowed to China's censorship should ever talk about open internet again.  That would be like Nike crusading for fair labor standards.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 12, 2021 4:51 PM

You'd think we were in China




.............oh, wait

Laley23

GOAT

Tue, Jan 12, 2021 4:57 PM
posted by gut
I don't know if Twitter is guilty of it specifically, but none of these big tech companies that bowed to China's censorship should ever talk about open internet again.  That would be like Nike crusading for fair labor standards.

Hey, I don’t disagree. Just pointing out the apples to oranges comparison that was made.


CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Tue, Jan 12, 2021 5:02 PM

Did ya'll scroll down and read the thread? I'm pretty sure I noted it was a thread. 

While they are specifically detailing their reasoning as it pertains to Uganda, they are blind to the precedents that they have already set and now suddenly are opposed to.


QuakerOats

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 12, 2021 5:03 PM

message how deep deceit you have to deplatform the truth statue liberty

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Brudda o da bomber

Tue, Jan 12, 2021 5:15 PM

Big companies are people too!

;)  Citizens United 

Spock

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 12, 2021 7:32 PM

You guys saying that "private Twitter" can do what they want and then seeing them post shit like that......unreal.  


By the one sided attempts to silence people they are doing the governemnts bidding for them.  

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Tue, Jan 12, 2021 8:05 PM

Don’t forget when big tech Justin silenced S&L. 

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Jan 13, 2021 12:19 AM
posted by Laley23

Hey, I don’t disagree. Just pointing out the apples to oranges comparison that was made.


Not the same, but there is a lot of irony there when they cry about "open internet."

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Wed, Jan 13, 2021 5:09 AM

I finally took the time to look up the tweet's that Twitter states are the reason it perm-banned Trump. I personally don't see what it is about the two tweets that they use as a reason, but perhaps some of the contrarians here can do the mental gymnastics it requires for the greater understanding.

They list their reasoning on the page, but ... I find it ... laughable.


https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension.html

gut

Senior Member

Wed, Jan 13, 2021 3:33 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

They list their reasoning on the page, but ... I find it ... laughable.

That seems like a good example for this thread.  Basically banning free speech on the basis YOU believe what was said was a dog whistle.  The solution to someone misinterpreting what you said is to stop you from speaking?

The CNN fascists love to do that so they can explain to you how an unobjectionable statement was actually coded, racist language.  It's a pillar of the identity politics game.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Jan 13, 2021 4:43 PM

Silicon Valley oligarchs making dems in congress look like patriots ..............amazing.

jmog

Senior Member

Fri, Jan 15, 2021 8:50 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

I finally took the time to look up the tweet's that Twitter states are the reason it perm-banned Trump. I personally don't see what it is about the two tweets that they use as a reason, but perhaps some of the contrarians here can do the mental gymnastics it requires for the greater understanding.

They list their reasoning on the page, but ... I find it ... laughable.


https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension.html

Their explanation would get a 10 out of 10 in the mental gymnastics olympic games.

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Jan 15, 2021 10:19 AM
posted by like_that

Related to this thread, here is that slippery slope that ptown wants to pretend doesn't exist.    Hopefully it's only a handful of the full retard sector that wants to set up a committee. 

I feel like there needs to be some sort regulation, and Section 230 was really not designed to shield mega goliath tech companies from liability.

But when you see AOC proposing a committee, and realize Dems control both branches...that does not end well.

A lot of what has happened, especially Parler, isn't exactly a great indictment of tech.  But there's been a clear double standard with the leftwing hate groups.

Except the NYP story on Hunter Biden really illustrates the problem.  If you rely on the liberal media to validate and fact-check a story, then you've created a systemic bias against negative news on Dems and their agenda.  Because there is a cesspool of leftwing fake news that doesn't appear to get filtered or flagged.

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Fri, Jan 15, 2021 12:01 PM
posted by like_that

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/534045-ocasio-cortez-congress-looking-into-ways-to-rein-in-disinformation?fbclid=IwAR0zR-7XMk--5cghtlnY8bHcNiicejX-VnSFeYDG5iVBEl19GgOzzGgqhY0

Related to this thread, here is that slippery slope that ptown wants to pretend doesn't exist.    Hopefully it's only a handful of the full retard sector that wants to set up a committee. 

You cite AOC and want to talk of a slippery slope? It will take a more credible member of Congress to actual cite specific legistation before I will buy your slope argument. 

That would be like me citing something crazy Matt Gaetz or even crazy Majorie Taylor Green as something that has wide Republican support. 

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Sat, Jan 16, 2021 7:03 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

You cite AOC and want to talk of a slippery slope? It will take a more credible member of Congress to actual cite specific legistation before I will buy your slope argument. 

That would be like me citing something crazy Matt Gaetz or even crazy Majorie Taylor Green as something that has wide Republican support. 

I feel like you either don't know what a slippery slope is or you're purposely playing dumb.  When you have reps/senators proposing these type of committees, that means gets closer and closer to Government deciding which speech they want to regulate.    Yes, I know it was AOC, thus why I said (and you purposely ignored) "Hopefully it's only a handful of the full retard sector...." 

Do you really want a government committee decided which free speech should be censored vs uncensored?  Even if it is with all the people you have your full trust in?   If you say yes, please spare me gblock's  "not all speech is protected/yelling in a theater" bullshit too.  I know you're smarter than that.

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Sun, Jan 17, 2021 2:42 PM

So taking AOC's lead, CNN is now pushing for OAN and Newsmax to be taken off the air.

This is starting to get bad bad bad