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Pick6
thomas is a stud on D.Skyhook79 wrote: "Since when was 3 for 9 shooting burying everything? Tyrus Thomas wasn't "burying everything"..."
I think he met he was blocking everything. -
RedRider1
Brand new player (Jamison) & 2 guys just coming back from injury (West & Williams)....playing the 2nd game of back-to-backs (after the previous game went into OT)....it was the classic recipe for a bad loss...and that's what they got.
Let the chicken littles and bandwagon Cavs fans (the ones who didn't know the team existed before 2003) claim the season "over." I know it's unbelieveable that the Cavs would actually lose 2 in a row, but look back at the schedule...they caught a lot of teams on the 2nd night of back to backs and were in the middle of a nice stretch of home games. The schedule will get tougher.
As for Z, love him, but he was not and will never be the reason this team does or doesnt win a title...anyone saying otherwise is delusional.
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Skyhook79
4 excuses in a post has to be a record.RedRider1 wrote: Brand new player (Jamison) & 2 guys just coming back from injury (West & Williams)....playing the 2nd game of back-to-backs (after the previous game went into OT)....it was the classic recipe for a bad loss...and that's what they got.
Let the chicken littles and bandwagon Cavs fans (the ones who didn't know the team existed before 2003) claim the season "over." I know it's unbelieveable that the Cavs would actually lose 2 in a row, but look back at the schedule...they caught a lot of teams on the 2nd night of back to backs and were in the middle of a nice stretch of home games. The schedule will get tougher.
As for Z, love him, but he was not and will never be the reason this team does or doesnt win a title...anyone saying otherwise is delusional.
I expect a much different team on Sunday. -
BoomhauerThem records in the regular season against Orlando and L.A. don't mean anything! The year Cleveland made the finals they beat the Spurs both games that year then got swept by them in the finals,,, I really think Jamison will get better but I foresee another shocking playoff performance coming if people keep building them up as unbeatable happens everytime,,the Cleveland jinx continues
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mallymal614
Agree! Orlando defeated the Lakers twice last season and we all know what happen when they met in the finals.Boomhauer wrote: Them records in the regular season against Orlando and L.A. don't mean anything! -
Footwedge
Ummm..maybe just maybe ZZZZ>>>Antawn Hughes? Ever think of that?LTrain23 wrote:
LOL!!!Jughead wrote: Footwedge is looking like a genius. I was not a fan of this trade...still am not a fan of this trade. Z was the only reason I picked the Cavs as a favorite team during the dark ages. Something about a 7+ foot guy that can shoot the long range J impressed me when I was a kid, in fact it still does.
How can you not be a fan of a trade that we gave up nothing for, but got better from? -
krazie45
Wow a lot of people are freaking out about 2 games. This sounds familiar.....oh yea they did the same thing at the beginning of the year. Let's look at the facts though:
1. Cavs have the best record right now in the East
2. Cavs have the best record right now in the NBA
That's all I care about in regular season terms.....wake me up when the playoffs start. -
FootwedgeLTrain23 wrote:
Since when was 3 for 9 shooting burying everything? Tyrus Thomas wasn't "burying everything"...Footwedge wrote:
Tyrus Thoms didn't seem to have any 'new team" jitters. He buried everything against us.LTrain23 wrote: Give Antawn some time to get accustomed to these guys.. He was no doubt a little tense tonight.. He didn't really play loose out there.
I'm seeing it with new guys on all the different teams, not just 'Tawn..
Also, LeBron 6-14 | 2-6 3pt fg's.. had a +/- of (-2) for the game..
Mo Williams 4-10
Anderson 2-9
Shaq 4-9
As a team? 39%
That's why we lost. That and our team defense has been HORRIBLE the last 5 games.
Tyrus Thomas in 25 mintes....12 boards, 6 blocks, +/- was +12. Don't make an ass of yourself LTrain.
If you think Tawn Hughes and Ty Thomas had similar auditions, then you need to put down the AC homer crack pipe down. Jesus. -
hoops23
LOL! I need to put the AC Homer crack pipe down? This coming from the same guy who still doesn't think we lost in the Eastern Conference Finals?Footwedge wrote:LTrain23 wrote:
Since when was 3 for 9 shooting burying everything? Tyrus Thomas wasn't "burying everything"...Footwedge wrote:
Tyrus Thoms didn't seem to have any 'new team" jitters. He buried everything against us.LTrain23 wrote: Give Antawn some time to get accustomed to these guys.. He was no doubt a little tense tonight.. He didn't really play loose out there.
I'm seeing it with new guys on all the different teams, not just 'Tawn..
Also, LeBron 6-14 | 2-6 3pt fg's.. had a +/- of (-2) for the game..
Mo Williams 4-10
Anderson 2-9
Shaq 4-9
As a team? 39%
That's why we lost. That and our team defense has been HORRIBLE the last 5 games.
Tyrus Thomas in 25 mintes....12 boards, 6 blocks, +/- was +12. Don't make an ass of yourself LTrain.
If you think Tawn Hughes and Ty Thomas had similar auditions, then you need to put down the AC homer crack pipe down. Jesus.
Please footwedge, get out of here with that..
The guy had a bad game. Shit happens. I merely pointed out that he wasn't alone in that department. Every single person on the Cavs had a TERRIBLE game.
Not only that, but guess how many minutes newcomer Antawn Jamison saw on the floor with Shaq and LeBron together? 0.
You're an idiot who's knowledge of the game continues to be exploited everytime you post. If you think Antawn Jamison is garbage, then please stop watching the game. He's averaging 20/9 this season, 19/9 for his career and 19/9 for the postseason.. What's that tell you? He's consistent!
I don't exactly remember if you were freaking out after our 0-2 and 3-3 starts, but from the looks of your recent posts, it looks like it.
It's going to be fucking hilarious to see some of you guys post again in a month. My goodness the ignorance on this board at times can be astounding.
Oh, and one last thing regarding Tyrus Thomas.. Don't back track on your previous statement about him.. You said "He was draining everything" I rebutted those comments with STATS.. Shooting 3/9 is not draining everything.. -
se-alum
LTrain, what's the point in arguing w/ this kid?? If everyone ignores him, he'll go away. -
hoops23
I dunno.. haha
But, Kevin Martin went 3/16 in his first game with Houston..
Kobe, who is playing his 50th season with LA, went 2/12 against Charlotte back at the beginning of this month
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Footwedge
I'm old enough to be your dad, kid..and not going away.se-alum wrote: LTrain, what's the point in arguing w/ this kid?? If everyone ignores him, he'll go away. -
FootwedgeLTrain23 wrote:Footwedge wrote:LTrain23 wrote:
Since when was 3 for 9 shooting burying everything? Tyrus Thomas wasn't "burying everything"...Footwedge wrote:
Tyrus Thoms didn't seem to have any 'new team" jitters. He buried everything against us.LTrain23 wrote: Give Antawn some time to get accustomed to these guys.. He was no doubt a little tense tonight.. He didn't really play loose out there.
I'm seeing it with new guys on all the different teams, not just 'Tawn..
Also, LeBron 6-14 | 2-6 3pt fg's.. had a +/- of (-2) for the game..
Mo Williams 4-10
Anderson 2-9
Shaq 4-9
As a team? 39%
That's why we lost. That and our team defense has been HORRIBLE the last 5 games.
Tyrus Thomas in 25 mintes....12 boards, 6 blocks, +/- was +12. Don't make an ass of yourself LTrain.
If you think Tawn Hughes and Ty Thomas had similar auditions, then you need to put down the AC homer crack pipe down. Jesus.
So....we didn't lose in the Conference finals? News to me.LOL! I need to put the AC Homer crack pipe down? This coming from the same guy who still doesn't think we lost in the Eastern Conference Finals?
Get out of here with what? We lost in the EC Fimals. Accept it.Please footwedge, get out of here with that..
The guy had a bad game. Shit happens. I merely pointed out that he wasn't alone in that department. Every single person on the Cavs had a TERRIBLE game.
I know he had a terible game. He sucked. And I've explained why this guy will not help our team. Excuse me for giving my opinion.
Fuckin ignorant comment. What does that have to do with Jamison stinkin out the joint? And for what it's worth, your statement is false.Not only that, but guess how many minutes newcomer Antawn Jamison saw on the floor with Shaq and LeBron together? 0.
I really don't give a fuck what you think of my opinion, Sage. It's my opinion. I cite an opinion, and then I post the stats to back them up.You're an idiot who's knowledge of the game continues to be exploited everytime you post. If you think Antawn Jamison is garbage, then please stop watching the game. He's averaging 20/9 this season, 19/9 for his career and 19/9 for the postseason.. What's that tell you? He's consistent!
But thanks for calling me an idiot. Real classy there dude.
Relevance to this thread? Zero.I don't exactly remember if you were freaking out after our 0-2 and 3-3 starts, but from the looks of your recent posts, it looks like it.
It's going to be fucking hilarious to see some of you guys post again in a month. My goodness the ignorance on this board at times can be astounding.
What's ignorant are those that claim this year's team is somehow better than last year's team. Well they aren't. Records don'te lie and stats don't lie.
What's also ignorant is for people to claim that Orlando was better than last year's Cavs. They weren't. Using your logic, the the Cavs can't beat Denver.
My bad... TT was horshit last night.Oh, and one last thing regarding Tyrus Thomas.. Don't back track on your previous statement about him.. You said "He was draining everything" I rebutted those comments with STATS.. Shooting 3/9 is not draining everything..
As for Jamison, if that piece pf crap trakes away serious minutes from our real #4's, then I am done watching this team. -
FootwedgeAnd LTwan...if you make a statement that neither Shaq nor Bron being on the floor at the same tiime with Antawn Hughes, then try citing a souces to pove your point. You failled miserably and should probably apologize for the inaccuracies. Both Shaq and Bron were on the flooor for several minutes in the first quartet together. Bron set up Antawn Hughes not once, but twice, when he missed on both the threes , when the rim was never in danger of being touched,. Read the play by pay here....sinse your memory blows, thy reading the play ny play of the game here....
TIME CLEVELAND SCORE CHARLOTTE
12:00 Start of the 1st Quarter
12:00 0-0 Jumpball: Shaquille O'Neal vs. Nazr Mohammed (Boris Diaw gains possession)
11:45 0-0 Nazr Mohammed misses layup
11:41 0-0 Nazr Mohammed misses 12-foot jumper
11:41 0-0 Nazr Mohammed offensive rebound
11:40 Shaquille O'Neal defensive rebound 0-0
11:17 Anthony Parker misses 28-foot three point jumper 0-0
11:17 Cleveland offensive rebound 0-0
11:17 shot clock violation 0-0
11:03 0-0 Raymond Felton misses 20-foot jumper
11:03 J.J. Hickson defensive rebound 0-0
10:47 Anthony Parker makes 24-foot three point jumper (J.J. Hickson assists) 3-0
10:33 3-2 Gerald Wallace makes 18-foot jumper
10:15 LeBron James misses 18-foot jumper 3-2
10:15 Shaquille O'Neal makes layup 5-2
10:15 Shaquille O'Neal offensive rebound 5-2
10:15 5-2 Nazr Mohammed shooting foul (Shaquille O'Neal draws the foul)
10:15 Shaquille O'Neal misses free throw 1 of 1 5-2
10:12 5-2 Gerald Wallace defensive rebound
10:02 5-5 Stephen Jackson makes 26-foot three point jumper (Boris Diaw assists)
9:45 Mo Williams misses 17-foot jumper 5-5
9:42 5-5 Boris Diaw defensive rebound
9:22 5-5 Boris Diaw misses layup
9:19 5-5 Nazr Mohammed offensive rebound
9:14 5-7 Nazr Mohammed makes two point shot (Stephen Jackson assists)
8:59 Anthony Parker makes 23-foot three point jumper (LeBron James assists) 8-7
8:37 8-7 Stephen Jackson lost ball (Shaquille O'Neal steals)
8:30 Mo Williams makes 26-foot three point jumper (LeBron James assists) 11-7
8:11 11-7 Raymond Felton bad pass (Shaquille O'Neal steals)
8:06 Mo Williams makes 24-foot three point jumper (LeBron James assists) 14-7
7:48 14-7 Shaquille O'Neal blocks Boris Diaw's layup
7:47 Shaquille O'Neal defensive rebound 14-7
7:45 LeBron James bad pass 14-7
7:31 14-9 Stephen Jackson makes 19-foot jumper (Boris Diaw assists)
7:07 Mo Williams makes 25-foot three point jumper (LeBron James assists) 17-9
6:50 17-11 Raymond Felton makes layup (Gerald Wallace assists)
6:26 J.J. Hickson makes dunk (LeBron James assists) 19-11
6:07 19-13 Boris Diaw makes 6-foot hook shot
5:47 Mo Williams misses 27-foot three point jumper 19-13
5:46 19-13 Gerald Wallace defensive rebound
5:30 19-15 Stephen Jackson makes 19-foot jumper (Raymond Felton assists)
5:09 Shaquille O'Neal bad pass 19-15
5:09 Charlotte full timeout
5:09 Antawn Jamison enters the game for J.J. Hickson 19-15
5:09 Delonte West enters the game for Mo Williams 19-15
5:09 19-15 Theo Ratliff enters the game for Nazr Mohammed
4:54 19-15 Stephen Jackson bad pass (LeBron James steals)
4:50 LeBron James makes dunk 21-15
4:35 21-15 Boris Diaw turnover
4:20 Antawn Jamison misses 23-foot three point jumper 21-15
4:20 21-15 Stephen Jackson defensive rebound
4:09 21-17 Raymond Felton makes 20-foot jumper (Boris Diaw assists)
3:54 Theo Ratliff blocks Antawn Jamison's layup 21-17
3:51 21-17 Theo Ratliff defensive rebound
3:46 21-19 Boris Diaw makes two point shot (Raymond Felton assists)
3:32 Shaquille O'Neal misses layup 21-19
3:31 21-19 Stephen Jackson defensive rebound
3:27 21-19 Stephen Jackson bad pass
3:27 21-19 Tyrus Thomas enters the game for Theo Ratliff
3:27 Jamario Moon enters the game for Shaquille O'Neal 21-19
3:27 Anderson Varejao enters the game for Anthony Parker 21-19
3:14 Tyrus Thomas blocks Anderson Varejao's 7-foot jumper 21-19
3:11 21-19 Gerald Wallace defensive rebound
3:08 21-19 Tyrus Thomas misses layup
2:58 21-19 Tyrus Thomas offensive rebound
2:57 Jamario Moon makes layup (LeBron James assists) 23-19
2:43 23-19 Tyrus Thomas misses layup
2:42 Anderson Varejao defensive rebound 23-19
2:32 23-19 Stephen Jackson personal foul (Antawn Jamison draws the foul)
2:32 Cleveland full timeout
2:58 23-19 Raymond Felton lost ball (Antawn Jamison steals)
2:23 Delonte West makes 22-foot jumper 25-19
2:01 25-21 Raymond Felton makes driving layup
2:01 LeBron James shooting foul (Raymond Felton draws the foul) 25-21
2:01 25-22 Raymond Felton makes free throw 1 of 1
1:37 Jamario Moon misses 24-foot three point jumper 25-22
1:36 25-22 Tyrus Thomas defensive rebound
1:21 25-22 Stephen Jackson misses driving layup
1:20 Antawn Jamison defensive rebound 25-22
1:01 Delonte West makes jumper 27-22
0:41 27-24 Boris Diaw makes two point shot
0:32 Jamario Moon makes 23-foot three point jumper (LeBron James assists) 30-24
0:14 30-27 Stephen Jackson makes 26-foot three point jumper
0:03 30-27 Stephen Jackson shooting foul (LeBron James draws the foul)
0:03 LeBron James makes free throw 1 of 2 31-27
0:03 LeBron James makes free throw 2 of 2 32-27
0:01 Jamario Moon personal foul (Stephen Jackson draws the foul) 32-27
0:01 32-27 Raymond Felton misses 36-foot three point jumper
0:00 End of the 1st Quarter
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pkebkerCavs fans shouldn't expect Jamison to average 20 pts a game here. He was the #1 option in Washington, here he probably is the third option. He'll average around 15 pts a game and will be a great upgrade offensively over our other 4's, because the only offense Varejao and Hickson have is open dunks.
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hoops23
Sorry footwedge, I missed the first half of the game and went by what the guys on NBA Fastbreak said..
Still doesn't prove anything. I rebutted everything you've said.. I'll admit when I'm wrong.
I don't know what the hells gotten into you though. You're acting worse than skyhook. Ever since you got taken to school on the point about the Cavs losing to Orlando last season, you're half the poster you were before hand.. Sad.. Not too many quality NBA posters on here to begin with.. -
se-alum
That is very sad.Footwedge wrote:
I'm old enough to be your dad, kid..and not going away.se-alum wrote: LTrain, what's the point in arguing w/ this kid?? If everyone ignores him, he'll go away. -
Footwedge
What got into me...are all the "et tu Brute's" like youself that follow a bandwagon on here ....those that disagree with my opinion.LTrain23 wrote: Sorry footwedge, I missed the first half of the game and went by what the guys on NBA Fastbreak said..
Still doesn't prove anything. I rebutted everything you've said.. I'll admit when I'm wrong.
I don't know what the hells gotten into you though. You're acting worse than skyhook. Ever since you got taken to school on the point about the Cavs losing to Orlando last season, you're half the poster you were before hand.. Sad.. Not too many quality NBA posters on here to begin with..
If you don't know what "et tu brute" means, then look it up.
My opinions are just that...they are opinions. If you don't agree, fine....but how about knocking off the fuggin horse shit.
I have never started any shit with any poster on here. Not you nor anyone else. Not even one lousy time.
Just because I don't buy into the status quo of what TNT or the NBA channel gurus have to say, doesn't make my opinions wrong...only different than your's and others.
The Jamison trade has set me off....because I believe that this trade reduces our chances of winning it this year. I stand by my statement...and let the last 3 games speak for themselves.
But when one by one, each and every one of you take turns with their pot shots, I get a little tired of it. -
Footwedge
My hope is that both Ferry and Brown come to terms with the realities of this guy Jamison. Leon Powe is a true winner, and should get major minutes.pkebker wrote: Cavs fans shouldn't expect Jamison to average 20 pts a game here. He was the #1 option in Washington, here he probably is the third option. He'll average around 15 pts a game and will be a great upgrade offensively over our other 4's, because the only offense Varejao and Hickson have is open dunks.
Pretty much the only difference between the Celtics championship team of 2 years ago and the one today...they had Posey and Powe logging in major minutes.
Admittedly, Ray Allen, Pierce and KG are 2 years older, they would be at the same level as the elites...if they still had Posey and Powe.
Now, Ferry goes on a guilt trip in not signing Shaq last year, and pulls a major rock in making this trade.
I want a chamionshionship as bad as any Clevelander does, if not worse. But part of me says..."I hope we get bumped in the first round" after this shit trade. -
Footwedge
Why is it sad, Cletus? Don't like people that have seen a lot more than you?se-alum wrote:
That is very sad.Footwedge wrote:
I'm old enough to be your dad, kid..and not going away.se-alum wrote: LTrain, what's the point in arguing w/ this kid?? If everyone ignores him, he'll go away. -
hoops23
Jamison Proves Worth for Cavs in Loss
ORLANDO -- It's hard to find much good in a third consecutive loss -- the longest losing streak in almost two years -- but the Cleveland Cavaliers discovered quickly just how valuable Antawn Jamison is going to be at playoff time.
Jamison, obtained from Washington last week to give LeBron James a real sidekick, didn't start in Sunday's game. Yet he started the second half and had eight points, three rebounds and a blocked shot in the first 1:39 before the Orlando Magic wisely called time out.
The Cavs now have another game changer.
"I think he's going to help us,'' understated Cavs coach Mike Brown.
It was Jamison's second game with the Cavs, but the first in which he showed why the trade was made. In last week's loss to Charlotte, Jamison missed all 12 of his shots in the worst shooting night of his career.
"I was able laugh off that last game,'' he said Sunday. "But this one, at the start of the second half, I wasn't thinking too much, just playing. And it gave me confidence. I'm feeling a little more comfortable now.''
The Cavs got Jamison to help in their anticipated playoff matchup against Orlando, giving them someone to counter Rashard Lewis. He posted up Lewis at the start of the second half, hitting two short hook shots, a layup and a 20-foot jumper to erase the halftime deficit.
He finished with 19 points and eight rebounds before fouling out late in the game. Because of the schedule since the All-Star break, he still hasn't had his first practice with the team. It's been a learning-on-the-fly experience, but he loves what he sees coming.
"This is going to be great for me. It's been four years since I've had open jumpers like this, no double teams, able to go one-on- one,'' Jamison said. "It's almost scary what can happen playing alongside guys like this (LeBron James, Shaquille O'Neal). It's going to make the game so much easier.''
Jamison averaged 19.9 points in his first 11 seasons, but he never played for a team good enough to be a serious contender. To get him, the Cavs had to trade center Zydrunas Ilgauskas. They still expect Ilgauskas to return after Washington waives him this week, and he waits the required 30 days to re-sign. The only risk is someone else offering Ilgauskas a contract too good to refuse in the meantime.
Although he didn't start the first two games with Cleveland, he could join the starting lineup as early as Tuesday against the New Orleans Hornets.
"Everyone here keeps telling me, don't be passive. Be aggressive and we'll adapt to you,'' Jamison said. "They want me to shoot. That's what I do. I think it will come quickly.'' -
se-alum
It's sad that you're that old, and still act the way you do.Footwedge wrote:
Why is it sad, Cletus? Don't like people that have seen a lot more than you?se-alum wrote:
That is very sad.Footwedge wrote:
I'm old enough to be your dad, kid..and not going away.se-alum wrote: LTrain, what's the point in arguing w/ this kid?? If everyone ignores him, he'll go away. -
sportswizuhrd
Powe averaged 14 minutes a game in the regular season and 11 in the playoffs. Hardly major minutes. He had the 9th most minutes on the team. Posey isnt exactly setting the world on fire in New Orleans.Footwedge wrote:
My hope is that both Ferry and Brown come to terms with the realities of this guy Jamison. Leon Powe is a true winner, and should get major minutes.pkebker wrote: Cavs fans shouldn't expect Jamison to average 20 pts a game here. He was the #1 option in Washington, here he probably is the third option. He'll average around 15 pts a game and will be a great upgrade offensively over our other 4's, because the only offense Varejao and Hickson have is open dunks.
Pretty much the only difference between the Celtics championship team of 2 years ago and the one today...they had Posey and Powe logging in major minutes.
Admittedly, Ray Allen, Pierce and KG are 2 years older, they would be at the same level as the elites...if they still had Posey and Powe.
Now, Ferry goes on a guilt trip in not signing Shaq last year, and pulls a major rock in making this trade.
I want a chamionshionship as bad as any Clevelander does, if not worse. But part of me says..."I hope we get bumped in the first round" after this shit trade.
What makes Power a true winner? Because he has a ring as a second stringer on the Celtics? Does that mean Carmelo, Howard, LeBron, Paul, Roy and Durant are all losers?
I am not trying to bash the kid or you for your opinion but I fail to see how he would be leaps and bounds better than Jamison. He is coming off major surgery as well and who knows if he will be as good as he was. We cant make that assumption until he plays. -
Footwedge
Look up the stat sheet and compare Powe with Jamison. It's that simple. Whjen Powe was on the court, good things happen. And I think "major minutes" has to do with major minutes off the bench. If your bemch blows, then your chances of winning goews wayyy down.sportswizuhrd wrote:
Powe averaged 14 minutes a game in the regular season and 11 in the playoffs. Hardly major minutes. He had the 9th most minutes on the team. Posey isnt exactly setting the world on fire in New Orleans.Footwedge wrote:
My hope is that both Ferry and Brown come to terms with the realities of this guy Jamison. Leon Powe is a true winner, and should get major minutes.pkebker wrote: Cavs fans shouldn't expect Jamison to average 20 pts a game here. He was the #1 option in Washington, here he probably is the third option. He'll average around 15 pts a game and will be a great upgrade offensively over our other 4's, because the only offense Varejao and Hickson have is open dunks.
Pretty much the only difference between the Celtics championship team of 2 years ago and the one today...they had Posey and Powe logging in major minutes.
Admittedly, Ray Allen, Pierce and KG are 2 years older, they would be at the same level as the elites...if they still had Posey and Powe.
Now, Ferry goes on a guilt trip in not signing Shaq last year, and pulls a major rock in making this trade.
I want a chamionshionship as bad as any Clevelander does, if not worse. But part of me says..."I hope we get bumped in the first round" after this shit trade.
What makes Power a true winner? Because he has a ring as a second stringer on the Celtics? Does that mean Carmelo, Howard, LeBron, Paul, Roy and Durant are all losers?
I am not trying to bash the kid or you for your opinion but I fail to see how he would be leaps and bounds better than Jamison. He is coming off major surgery as well and who knows if he will be as good as he was. We cant make that assumption until he plays. -
Footwedge
And how do I act? Explain yourself Cletus. This is the internet. If you don't like my opinions, then don't read them.se-alum wrote:
It's sad that you're that old, and still act the way you do.Footwedge wrote:
Why is it sad, Cletus? Don't like people that have seen a lot more than you?se-alum wrote:
That is very sad.Footwedge wrote:
I'm old enough to be your dad, kid..and not going away.se-alum wrote: LTrain, what's the point in arguing w/ this kid?? If everyone ignores him, he'll go away.