Cleveland Browns Offseason Talk

• pkebker

  Think we'll have any rookies holdouts?
• BR1986FB

  pkebker;404752 wrote:Think we'll have any rookies holdouts?

  
  I'm hearing possibly Haden.
• pkebker

  BR1986FB;404845 wrote:I'm hearing possibly Haden.

  
  would be a terrible choice on his part. He's not a lock to start, even if he attends all of training camp, let alone misses some from a holdout.
• BR1986FB

  Greetham: Receivers Have to Grow Up Fast
  
  By Fred Greetham
  
  Posted Jun 30, 2010
  
  Fred looks at the Browns decision to stick with last year's receiver corps...
  
  
  BEREA—The Browns receiving corps of 2009 struck little fear in opponents’ eyes, especially after the trading of Braylon Edwards to the Jets.
  
  Surely, the Browns would make it a priority to upgrade the position in 2010. But free agency came and went. The draft came and went and the Browns made very few changes at the position.
  
  They signed no unrestricted free agent wide receivers and didn’t draft a receiver until Carlton Mitchell was taken in the sixth-round.
  
  Despite constant prodding by fans and the media regarding the position, the Browns went through OTAs and minicamps without adding a veteran receiver. They still might add a veteran before or during training camp, but it appears, at least for now, the Browns are going with what they have.
  
  Here is a breakdown of the receivers as the Browns head to training camp:
  
  Mohamed Massaquoi—In just his second year, Massaquoi tied for the team lead in 2009 with 34 receptions for 624 yards and three touchdowns. He had an impressive 18.4 yards per reception average. The Browns are counting upon Massaquoi to continue his development and grow into being the No. 1 receiver. Massaquoi’s best game was on Oct. 4 against the Bengals when he broke out with eight receptions for 148 yards. Edwards was still with the Browns and much of Massaquoi’s success in that game was attributed to Edwards getting double-teamed most of the game.
  
  Chansi Stuckey—After coming over in the Edwards trade, Stuckey never really was able to get into a groove. He had 19 receptions for 198 yards and a touchdown with the Browns. Overall, he had 30 catches for 318 yards with two touchdowns. Stuckey is being counted upon to be the slot receiver. Stuckey’s best season in the NFL was his second with the Jets in 2008 when he had 32 receptions for 359 yards and three touchdowns.
  
  Joshua Cribbs—The do-it-all converted receiver caught 20 passes for 135 yards and one touchdown in 2009. Cribbs is used in so many formations that it is hard to count on him to be a full-time receiver. Cribbs had five receptions for 22 yards in the second game of the season against the Broncos. After that, he wasn’t used much in the passing game.
  
  Brian Robiskie—After a very disappointing rookie season, Robiskie is the key to the 2010 Browns’ receiving corps. His play in the off-season programs has been very impressive, but it has to translate to live situations. Robiskie had just seven receptions for 106 yards and no touchdowns in his first year. Robiskie is being counted upon to be the No. 2 receiver, in order for the Browns to be able to move the ball in the air. Robiskie had four of his seven catches against the Chargers for 69 yards. Last year, he was inactive in five games and was pretty much non-existent for the 36th overall draft choice.
  
  Syndric Steptoe—The diminuitive receiver drafted in the seventh-round of the 2007 draft spent the 2009 season on injured reserve. He has been able to hang with the Browns for over three years without much production.
  
  Jake Allen—Allen has a long, lean frame (6-4, 196) that the Browns brought in last year after the Packers released him. He was active for one game with the Packers out of Mississippi College and then for two games with the Browns. He didn’t catch any passes, but was activated over Robiskie at Cincinnati.
  
  Carlton Mitchell—Described as a big, raw, physical specimen the Browns took in the sixth-round from South Florida. The 6-3, 215 pounder could see the field in 2010 if he is able to grasp the Browns offense quickly. Has the ability to stretch the field with good speed.
  
  Johnathan Haggerty— Haggerty (6-1, 195) is an undrafted free agent from SW Oklahoma State. He caught the coach’s eyes in the OTAs and minicamp showing nice hands and good route running ability. Has a chance to stick with the practice squad, if he doesn’t make the 53-man roster.
  
  The Browns chose to let veteran Mike Furrey leave as an unrestricted free agent after having 23 receptions. The Browns are counting on the second-year receivers to play big roles in 2010. Massaquoi showed enough in 2009 that he can play. The bigger question is will Robiskie be able to continue the progression he displayed in the off-season programs.
  
  Stuckey and Cribbs figure to be in the top four set of receivers and either Steptoe, Allen, Mitchell or Haggerty would be the fifth receiver.
  
  For the Browns to have any chance to move the ball through the air, both Massaquoi and Robiskie will need to continue their improvement. If not, it could be a long season for the Browns offensively.
  
  (Next we will take a look at the tight ends)
  
  http://cle.scout.com/2/981014.html
• Sonofanump

  I see a bunch of #2 OR #3 type guys on that list. I think only Mitchell could be a #1 guy.
• BR1986FB

  Sonofanump;406354 wrote:I see a bunch of #2 OR #3 type guys on that list. I think only Mitchell could be a #1 guy.

  
  As long as they catch the ball and move the chains I don't care what they are. Hopefully Robiskie steps up to help MoMass.
• OhioStatePride2003

  Any chance we take a shot at trading for Vincent Jackson? I know the asking price was kind of high earlier in this offseason, but trading for him may not be as bad.
• BR1986FB

  OhioStatePride2003;406684 wrote:Any chance we take a shot at trading for Vincent Jackson? I know the asking price was kind of high earlier in this offseason, but trading for him may not be as bad.

  
  He just got a 3 game suspension.
  
  Here's the Training Camp schedule for those interested...
  
  Date AM/PM Time
  
  Sat., July 31............. Morning Practice.......................................... ........................ 8:45 a.m. – 10:45 a.m.
  
  Evening Practice.......................................... ........................ 5:45 p.m. – 7:45 p.m.
  
  Sun., Aug. 1............. Afternoon Practice.......................................... ..................... 1:30 p.m. – 3:30 p.m.
  
  Mon., Aug. 2........... Morning Practice.......................................... ........................ 8:45 a.m. – 10:45 a.m.
  
  Evening Practice.......................................... ........................ 5:45 p.m. – 7:45 p.m.
  
  Tue., Aug. 3............. PRACTICE CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC
  
  Wed., Aug. 4........... Morning Practice.......................................... ........................ 8:45 a.m. – 10:45 a.m.
  
  Evening Practice.......................................... ........................ 5:45 p.m. – 7:45 p.m.
  
  Thur., Aug. 5........... Afternoon Practice.......................................... ..................... 1:30 p.m. – 3:30 p.m.
  
  Fri., Aug. 6.............. Afternoon Practice.......................................... ..................... 1:30 p.m. – 3:30 p.m.
  
  Sat., Aug. 7.............. Family Day Scrimmage at Cleveland Browns Stadium........ 1:00 p.m.
  
  Sun., Aug. 8............. PRACTICE CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC
  
  Mon., Aug. 9........... Afternoon Practice.......................................... ..................... 1:30 p.m. – 3:30 p.m.
  
  Tues., Aug. 10......... Morning Practice.......................................... ........................ 8:45 a.m. – 10:45 a.m.
  
  Evening Practice.......................................... ........................ 5:45 p.m. – 7:45 p.m.
  
  Wed., Aug. 11......... PRACTICE CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC
  
  Thurs., Aug. 12........ Morning Practice.......................................... ........................ 8:45 a.m. – 10:45 a.m.
  
  Evening Practice.......................................... ........................ 5:45 p.m. – 7:45 p.m.
  
  Fri., Aug. 13…………Travel to Green Bay – NO PRACTICE
  
  Sat., Aug. 14………...BROWNS VS. PACKERS, LAMBEAU FIELD……………....8:00 p.m. (ET)
  
  Sun., Aug. 15........... PLAYERS OFF
  
  Mon., Aug. 16......... Afternoon Practice.......................................... ..................... 1:30 p.m. – 3:30 p.m.
  
  Tues., Aug. 17......... Morning Practice.......................................... ........................ 8:45 a.m. – 10:45 a.m.
  
  Evening Practice.......................................... ........................ 5:45 p.m. – 7:45 p.m.
  
  Wed., Aug. 18......... PRACTICE CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC
  
  Thurs., Aug. 19........ Morning Practice.......................................... ........................ 8:45 a.m. – 10:45 a.m.
  
  Evening Practice.......................................... ........................ 5:45 p.m. – 7:45 p.m.
  
  
  
  · ALL PRACTICE DATES AND TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
  
  · ALL PUBLIC PRACTICES ARE SUBJECT TO WEATHER CONDITIONS. PRACTICES MOVED INTO THE FIELD HOUSE WILL BE CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC.
  
  
  
  
  
  FAMILY DAY PRESENTED BY AT&T HELD ON AUGUST 7
  
  
  AT&T presents Family Day at Cleveland Browns Stadium, in association with Cleveland Clinic, www.cleveland.com and Smucker’s, on Saturday, August 7 at 1:00 p.m. The team will break away from its daily training camp practice schedule in Berea for a Brown team vs. White team scrimmage at Cleveland Browns Stadium. The scrimmage is free of charge and is a non-ticketed event. Gates open at 11:00 a.m. Parking is $5 per vehicle in the Port Authority Lots surrounding the stadium. Fans can also enjoy music, inflatables and numerous giveaways starting at 9:00 a.m. on Tailgate Terrace, located outside the stadium on the east patio. There will be a Browns Backers’ Best Backer Auto Show on Alfred Lerner Way from 9:00 a.m. – 12:30 p.m. A portion of the proceeds from the event will benefit the Cleveland Browns Foundation.
  
  
  
  In conjunction with Family Day, the Browns will hold a Select-A-Seat in which fans can personally select their seat for season tickets or partial season tickets for 2010. This will start at 9:00 a.m. and run through the course of scrimmage. Fans who arrive between 9:00 – 11:00 a.m. should enter through BrownsTown located on the north side of the Stadium and park in the North Port Authority lot. For more information contact (440) 824-3434 or www.ClevelandBrowns.com.
• OhioStatePride2003

  BR - even with the 3 game suspension, do you think he's worth taking a chance on? I mean, if anything, I would think it lowers San Diego's asking price for Jackson (whatever they may ask). I know he has a strand of troubles, but his production is certainly there. Maybe Holmgren can instill come discipline in him?
• BR1986FB

  He's worth it but I don't see Holmgren bringing in that kind of guy for Mangini. They kicked around earlier to see what SD wanted for him but the Chargers weren't coming down on their asking price.
• BR1986FB

  Carlton Mitchell signs four-year deal
  by Site staff of theOBR.com, July 7, 2010 at 2:07pm ET
  
  Carlton Mitchell Profile
  
  Multiple sources are reporting Mitchell signed a four-year deal with the Cleveland Browns. The signing has been confirmed by Mitchell's agent, Christina Phillips. Mitchell was a sixth-round pick by the Browns in last April's NFL draft and received a signing bonus of $113,000. The 6-foot-3, 215-pound wide out caught 40 balls for 706 yards and four touchdowns last season with the University of South Florida.
  
  http://cle.scout.com/a.z?s=149&p=9&c=2&cid=982473&nid=4926410&fhn=1
• hangonsloopy

  

  The Browns have signed Bobby Engram. Just got the text.
• Nate

  Just got the tweet. Boring move if you ask me.
• hangonsloopy

  

  Nate;416220 wrote:Just got the tweet. Boring move if you ask me.

  
  Boring? yes. Solid veteran receiver they needed? yes.
• Nate

  52 catches, 550 yds, and 0 TD's in the last 2 seasons. 37 years old.. I'm assuming he was injured last year.
• hangonsloopy

  

  I meant more along the lines of helping the young guys along. Those numbers aren't anything too impressive.
• Art Modell

  

  Wow! This thread has been quiet. You Cleveland fucks still in shock over Lebron keaving?
• ytownfootball

  

  The triumphant though disappointing return of capone...how sad
• hangonsloopy

  

  Art Modell;421523 wrote:Wow! This thread has been quiet. You Cleveland fucks still in shock over Lebron keaving?

  
  When did he keave?
• shook_17

  

  thought his sorry ass died. damn it
• dat dude

  FWIW, Vegas has set the O/U on the number of Browns' wins at 5.5.
  
  Baltimore = 10
  Pittsburgh = 9
  Cinci = 7.5
• KR1245

  

  Cant wait for the Brownies. Where has BR been?
• SportsAndLady

  

  Give me the over on that Bengals O/U
• Commander of Awesome

  

  My biggest hope going into training camp is that the Matador is replaced at RT. He might have been the second worst OLine player I have seen in a browns uni other than Joe Andruzzi.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  TE Greg Estandia on injured reserve. I bet they reach an injury settlement, to which then the Jags will snatch him right up. LOL, see what I did there?