New Orleans @ Cleveland

• shook_17

  

  Mine as well get this started. Does Cleveland stay with the up tempo offense? Do they get West and Crowell involved more early? And can the Defensive backs hold their own against Drew Brees and company?
  
  Does Josh Gordon get his suspension lifted? And are Tate and Cameron healthy and good to go on Sunday.
  
  If the browns defense shows up along with the ground game going I think browns win 30 to 24. If not I think it's along day.
• SportsAndLady

  

  I'm done getting optimistic about Gordon.
  
  He's not playing this year. There ya go, there's the breaking news.
  
  I'm sure NO wins this just not sure if it'll be another heart breaker or a crushing defeat.
• shook_17

  

  Lol true! It's Cleveland, we never get a break our way. EVER.
• Mulva

  

  Hate that the saints lost yesterday. This becomes almost a must win for them.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  29 17 browns
• thavoice

  Saints are usually bad on the road outide, but it is early season.
  IF the browns learned the lessons against the steelers...that you cannot be ultra consersvative...I think they win this one.
• Ironman92

  

  Need a good early game plan for sure. Need to be within a score at the half.
  
  Is Rob Ryan still the d coordinator? Hate him. I think Browns will have to mix up run and pass and do it all game.
  
  Gun to my head and I'd take the Saints but only because of the Browns not being able to get over the hump in crunch time. I'll be pretty surprised if the Saints win easily.
• like_that

  

  If the same defense shows up next week, this game will be a nightmare. Jimmy Graham and Cooks will have a field day.
  
  Lhslep, any chance you can post PFF grades from yesterday's game?
• like_that

  

  SportsAndLady;1651926 wrote:I'm done getting optimistic about Gordon.
  
  He's not playing this year. There ya go, there's the breaking news.
  
  I'm sure NO wins this just not sure if it'll be another heart breaker or a crushing defeat.

  
  Mort just reported that the NFLPA is going to vote on the new drug policy tomorrow. If they vote yes, then welker/gordon are reinstated.
• Ironman92

  

  like_that;1652166 wrote:Mort just reported that the NFLPA is going to vote on the new drug policy tomorrow. If they vote yes, then welker/gordon are reinstated.

  Was this Welker's first offense?
  
  NFL looking bad IMO with Ray Rice, Kung Fu highlights, marijuana, failed drug suspensions.
  
  Someone is going to be made an example...maybe several
• like_that

  

  Ironman92;1652167 wrote:Was this Welker's first offense?
  
  NFL looking bad IMO with Ray Rice, Kung Fu highlights, marijuana, failed drug suspensions.
  
  Someone is going to be made an example...maybe several

  It should be goodell.
• robj55

  

  like_that;1652166 wrote:Mort just reported that the NFLPA is going to vote on the new drug policy tomorrow. If they vote yes, then welker/gordon are reinstated.

  Testing for HGH? Half the league will be gone.
• like_that

  

  robj55;1652171 wrote:Testing for HGH? Half the league will be gone.

  I had a discussion with my friend about this. I think HGH should be legal in the NFL.
• robj55

  

  like_that;1652182 wrote:I had a discussion with my friend about this. I think HGH should be legal in the NFL.

  Man that's dicey, you're talking about a sport where head trauma is frequent. I'm a huge MMA fan and this is always a topic of discussion as well, although they have better testing methods than the NFL. If you're going to allow the use of it they need to sign off on a waiver or something to that effect.
• BR1986FB

  I agree that HGH should be given a pass in the NFL. It's not a drug that makes you stronger or actually improves performance (faster, stronger, etc). It's a recovery drug. Fans want to see these guys go out and give top performances every week but if they are in the ice tub, they aren't on the field.
• Midstate01

  

  I feel like Brees will just pick us apart.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  like_that;1652142 wrote:If the same defense shows up next week, this game will be a nightmare. Jimmy Graham and Cooks will have a field day.
  
  Lhslep, any chance you can post PFF grades from yesterday's game?

  I predict another sweep. Pitching sucks and our bats have gone silent.
  
  https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/09/08/refo-browns-steelers-week-1/
  
  [LEFT]Cleveland Browns – Three Performances of Note[/LEFT] Terrance West, RB: +1.4
  Breakdown: Cleveland’s third-round pick wasn’t expected to see a ton of action, but with Ben Tate injuring himself (again), it was West’s time to shine, with an even 100 yards rushing on just 16 carries.
  Signature Stat: The Towson State product forced six missed tackles, and averaged 4.1 Yards After Contact. He also finished with an Elusive Rating of 154.7.
  Brian Hoyer, QB: -0.8
  Breakdown: Hoyer acquitted himself reasonably well given all the talk this offseason, completing 19-of-31 passes for 230 yards and a touchdown, without turning the ball over. He was sharp in the second half when he seemed much more comfortable in the hurry-up offense, leading the Browns to 24 unanswered points before the Steelers pulled it out. As you might expect from someone in just his fifth career start, he struggled greatly under pressure. He was just 1-of-6 passing on eight dropbacks under pressure, and was sacked three total times.
  Signature Stat: He completed only 3-of-8 passes over the middle from zero to nine yards downfield.
  Karlos Dansby, LB: +1.5
  Breakdown: Lured from Arizona with a big free agent contract, Dansby showed why he got so much green. He finished with six tackles, four assists, three stops, and an interception for good measure.
  Signature Stat: In the second quarter with 14:38 remaining, Dansby made a terrific break on a short out route by the RB and cut in front of him for a diving interception.
• shook_17

  

  Ben Tate out 2-4 weeks with a knee injury.
  
  Thank ni god I drafted West in all my leagues!
• shook_17

  

  Also Ed Werner reported on espn that they agreed to a higher threshold for pot and that would immediately bring back 20 players
• like_that

  

  shook_17;1652641 wrote:Also Ed Werner reported on espn that they agreed to a higher threshold for pot and that would immediately bring back 20 players

  I take this as the NFL still has to shake on this.
• bases_loaded

  

  
• thavoice

  bases_loaded;1652688 wrote:

  So what he shoulda said was that someone gave him of that stuff laced with weed.
  
  Will be interesting how this all plays out.
  I dont know what will happen with welker. Reports now he took adderall and not the amphetamine in the MDMA
• BR1986FB

  Schefter saying that if the new drug policy passes, Gordon still probably looking at 6-10 games off.
• wildcats20

  

  BR1986FB;1653375 wrote:Schefter saying that if the new drug policy passes, Gordon still probably looking at 6-10 games off.

  @SportsCenter: NFL & NFLPA could approve new drug policy by this afternoon. Josh Gordon's suspension expected to be reduced to 8 games. (via @AdamSchefter)
• SportsAndLady

  

  Why 8 games?