Soccer Chatter
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SportsAndLady
See ya Mexico -
Automatik
What a beatdown, loved it. -
slingshot4everArgentina will do that to the US
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Mulva
The Euro bracket knockout stage is going to be insanely unbalanced. Germany, Italy, Spain, France, and England all on the bottom half. -
like_that
I was just talking about that with a friend. Seems fucking stupid the way they set it up. They are punishing some good first place teams.Mulva;1801084 wrote:The Euro bracket knockout stage is going to be insanely unbalanced. Germany, Italy, Spain, France, and England all on the bottom half. -
SportsAndLady
Argentina=good
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SportsAndLady
Annoying the shit out of me that the announcers are a second ahead of the game.
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wildcats20
Wow. -
slingshot4everThe U.S. goalie fucking blows
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Automatik
Ya that's it's lolslingshot4ever;1801114 wrote:The U.S. goalie fucking blows -
Laley23
Argentina is good enough to win this thing with half an A lineup. When they decided they wanted to win it all and brought the full squad, it was basically over for everyone else.
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Classyposter58
Anyone else watching this game? England looks so bad and lost -
Heretic
Uhhhhh.....Laley23;1801129 wrote:Argentina is good enough to win this thing with half an A lineup. When they decided they wanted to win it all and brought the full squad, it was basically over for everyone else.
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SportsAndLady
I would also say the same about Laley's comment about the USMNT having a hell of a tournament. Why are we so soft with the USMNT? They lost in the semi's of a tournament on their home soil that only included Western Hemisphere teams. Why can't we be critical of that? Why is that a hell of a showing?Heretic;1801627 wrote:Uhhhhh..... -
like_that
While we are at it, can we talk about Messi is a *****? Boo hoo I can't win an international tournament, I am going to take my ball and go home!
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Midstate01
100% with you. Usmnt played horrible. Managed horrible. They played 3 games against good teams and lost all 3. While I blame the players for their coming home to play and leaving the best training in the world, I also blame Klinsmann for not using this tourney as a great opportunity to play some of his young talent more. Jermaine Jones should not be on the usmnt roster...SportsAndLady;1801628 wrote:I would also say the same about Laley's comment about the USMNT having a hell of a tournament. Why are we so soft with the USMNT? They lost in the semi's of a tournament on their home soil that only included Western Hemisphere teams. Why can't we be critical of that? Why is that a hell of a showing?
I'm a Klinsmann fan, but I'm all in on wanting Caleb Porter to take over.
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Mulva
It wasn't terrible, but it definitely wasn't a hell of a tournament. Beat the team we should, won both toss-ups, and lost the 3 matches where we were clearly outclassed.
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Mulva
Also, LOL England.
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Laley23
Admittedly, because of work and vacation, the only game I saw all 90 of was the 4-0 win versus Costa Rica. I didnt see highlights or catch any breakdowns or anything of the other matches. So when we won the group and made the Semi's, coupled with the only good game we played lol, I probably overreacted (to simply the results)Mulva;1801951 wrote:It wasn't terrible, but it definitely wasn't a hell of a tournament. Beat the team we should, won both toss-ups, and lost the 3 matches where we were clearly outclassed. -
OSH
What coach, any coach, looks at the USMNT and says, "I really would like to coach these guys because I can win a tournament with them?" We don't have the players. We don't have the pool. Simple as that.Midstate01;1801657 wrote:100% with you. Usmnt played horrible. Managed horrible. They played 3 games against good teams and lost all 3. While I blame the players for their coming home to play and leaving the best training in the world, I also blame Klinsmann for not using this tourney as a great opportunity to play some of his young talent more. Jermaine Jones should not be on the usmnt roster...
I'm a Klinsmann fan, but I'm all in on wanting Caleb Porter to take over.
Heck, even Porter was feeling hotseat from Portland fans because of their often sporadic/terrible play. They don't play good soccer really. Even he's been awful in selecting players. Yes, he won an MLS Cup...but, that was a prime example of POOR POOR POOR soccer (from both sides).
This is it. Granted, winning group was pretty unexpected. No reason why anyone should think our squad SHOULD beat Colombia or Argentina. Just not going to happen consistently. There is a reason we are ranked near 30 and they both are top 5.Mulva;1801951 wrote:It wasn't terrible, but it definitely wasn't a hell of a tournament. Beat the team we should, won both toss-ups, and lost the 3 matches where we were clearly outclassed.
For me, I don't blame this tournament on the players or JK. It's our lack of productive player development system from U6-U23. Just not a great setup. Players are part-time players for their major developing ages. USSF, NFHS, college associations, etc. should get some collaborating on how to work together so all can accomplish what they want to -- individually AND collectively. Sunil Gulati needs to go. Don Garber needs to go. We just need a system overhaul. Look at what Spain, Germany, Iceland, and even Chile have done. They've all made drastic overhauls in the last 5-10-15 years to change their systems to produce results. Spain won World Cup within that time. Germany too. Iceland jumped more spots in FIFA World Rankings in 3 years than anyone else has. Chile won Copa America (twice) in 2-3 years while also moving from near-100 rank to top-5 rank in the world (in 10 years).
It's rather amazing what those countries have done. It takes investment. It takes collective involvement. And...it takes turning a system upside-down to start development. But, as most alluded to, it also involves a mentality in players that doesn't currently exist. They need to move beyond the Landycakes "part-time player" mentality and start working toward being the best in the world. Granted, we'll probably never have a world player of the year, but there's no reason a collective unit can't play together with a collective mindset/style like Iceland, Hungary, Chile, Northern Ireland, and other up-and-coming countries have exemplified. -
Midstate01
Caleb porter built a dynasty at Akron, has won a title with Portland. It'd the MLS, the soccer sucks because the players suck. I like Klinsmann myself but his days are numbered. He was completely right when he called out players for leaving their European teams to play in the MLS, but some didn't like him saying it and he's had people who've hated him from the get go like Donovan.
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OSH
Um...no he didn't. Ken Lolla did. Not taking away anything Porter did, but Lolla did it for 15 years there when soccer was nothing in the US. Lolla left for Louisville and Porter inherited a great setup -- and he deserved it too.Midstate01;1802229 wrote:Caleb porter built a dynasty at Akron, has won a title with Portland. It'd the MLS, the soccer sucks because the players suck. I like Klinsmann myself but his days are numbered. He was completely right when he called out players for leaving their European teams to play in the MLS, but some didn't like him saying it and he's had people who've hated him from the get go like Donovan. -
wildcats20
Well then...
@ReutersSports
BREAKING: Spanish court sentences Barcelona soccer star Lionel Messi to 21 months in prison, fines him 2 million euros for three tax crimes -
wildcats20
Well it seems he won't actually serve time.
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SportsAndLady
Read it's Spanish law that if it's your first offense you get sentenced to the crime, but don't actually serve it?wildcats20;1802503 wrote:Well it seems he won't actually serve time.
Weird