2014 Cleveland Browns Offseason Thread

• IggyPride00

  

  Mulva;1646978 wrote:Was there any other way this could have worked out? Name Hoyer the starter, he blows, Manziel comes in and scores immediately against scrubs, fans overreact, and QB controversy is bigger than ever. Classic.

  Pettine deserves it. He asked for this.
• Footwedge

  IggyPride00;1646975 wrote:I just love the smell of a fresh QB controversy.

  Manziel has the opportunity tonight to take Hoyer's job tonight. It's in his hands.
• robj55

  

  Footwedge;1646977 wrote:"Manziel has shown me no mobility, if you compare him to Mike Vick, Kaepernick or Russell Wilson" --Ron Jaworski on the Animal House yesterday. Fuckin idiot.Johnny needs to win this game and then BH can GFH.

  It was a wide open run up the middle, he got ran down from behind by back up linebackers last week. His pocket presence is not good at this level yet.
• KB0938

  Footwedge;1646977 wrote:"Manziel has shown me no mobility, if you compare him to Mike Vick, Kaepernick or Russell Wilson" --Ron Jaworski on the Animal House yesterday. Fuckin idiot.Johnny needs to win this game and then BH can GFH.

  Hes not even in the same universe as Vick in terms of mobility
  
  
  Doesnt have the arm or mobility of Kap, and doesnt have the pocket presence or accuracy of Wilson
• IggyPride00

  

  LOL @ Mike Pettine.
  
  This guy is seriously the world's biggest piece of shit.
  
  No first year head coach has ever been in so far over his head or out of his depth.
  
  Everything he touches turns to shit.
• Footwedge

  robj55;1646981 wrote:It was a wide open run up the middle, he got ran down from behind by back up linebackers last week. His pocket presence is not good at this level yet.

  You and Kob are fuggin clueless. Manziel torched the Lions with his feet several times. As for the rest of what you spew...LOLOL. Manziel ran for over 1400 as a teenager when he won the Heisman.
• robj55

  

  Footwedge;1646988 wrote:You and Kob are fuggin clueless. Manziel torched the Lions with his feet several times. As for the rest of what you spew...LOLOL. Manziel ran for over 1400 as a teenager when he won the Heisman.

  In college yes, he is a QB not a RB. The game is played from the pocket at this level.
• IggyPride00

  

  Posters on the OBR calling for Pettine to resign and then apologize for taking a job he was so woefully unqualified for.
  
  I might have to sign up there and thank them for understanding reality and not living in the myopia many Browns fans are.
• Footwedge

  Manziel getting fucked by all these assholes that will be cut tomorrow.
• robj55

  

  Footwedge;1646991 wrote:Manziel getting fucked by all these assholes that will be cut tomorrow.

  Also benefiting from playing against 3rd stringers, keep that in mind.
• Footwedge

  These clowns that claim Manziel has no pocket presence have no idea what they are talking about.
• IggyPride00

  

  robj55;1646992 wrote:Also benefiting from playing against 3rd stringers, keep that in mind.

  Did you see how bad Hoyer was against their 2nd string? And he had 1st stringers in there with him.
  
  Johnny is the only relevant option at QB for this team and the sooner Mike Pettine sees that the better.
• Fab1b

  

  Sam w/the freaking sack and mocks Manziel
• robj55

  

  IggyPride00;1646994 wrote:Did you see how bad Hoyer was against their 2nd string? And he had 1st stringers in there with him.
  
  Johnny is the only relevant option at QB for this team and the sooner Mike Pettine sees that the better.

  Neither have been impressive, Johnny had the ball on the rams 15 when they scored.
• KB0938

  Footwedge;1646988 wrote:You and Kob are fuggin clueless. Manziel torched the Lions with his feet several times. As for the rest of what you spew...LOLOL. Manziel ran for over 1400 as a teenager when he won the Heisman.

  Manziel could do this dance around shit in the NCAA, in the NFL he cant and wont. Vick can, and did, which is hwy i said Vick is in a complete different universe scrambling than MAnziel could ever hope to be. He had a few halfway decent scrambles that many QB's in this day in age can make in the NFL. Hes absolutely nothing special, and has done nothing at all to change that view of him by most..
• robj55

  

  JFF nearly got him killed there, he seems like a one read guy just like Tebow was when he came in the league. Sight line thrower.
• Footwedge

  robj55;1646996 wrote:Neither have been impressive, Johnny had the ball on the rams 15 when they scored.

  Listen up and learn. The numbers are not even to even this preseason. Learn to read a stat sheet. it's unreal to me that Pettine won't play the far superior talent. This isn't little league, Pettine. The best player plays. Secondly. Manziel took then in after a dropped TD pass, 2 penalties, and moved 16 yards to pay dirt. Pretty damn impressive in my view.
• KB0938

  The only time ive ever heard of a 16 yard drive be impressive hahahahah
• robj55

  

  Footwedge;1647001 wrote:Listen up and learn. The numbers are not even to even this preseason. Learn to read a stat sheet. it's unreal to me that Pettine won't play the far superior talent. This isn't little league, Pettine. The best player plays. Secondly. Manziel took then in after a dropped TD pass, 2 penalties, and moved 16 yards to pay dirt. Pretty damn impressive in my view.

  I agree that Manziel has more talent, but he's not ready and Hoyer is better from the pocket. 16 whole yards huh? lol
• IggyPride00

  

  Haslam needs to take action after this game.
  
  3 weeks in a row this team has been totally unprepared to play football.
  
  Mike Pettine makes Pat Shurmur and Chris Palmer look like Walsh and Noll he has been so bad.
• Footwedge

  KB0938;1646999 wrote:Manziel could do this dance around shit in the NCAA, in the NFL he cant and wont. Vick can, and did, which is hwy i said Vick is in a complete different universe scrambling than MAnziel could ever hope to be. He had a few halfway decent scrambles that many QB's in this day in age can make in the NFL. Hes absolutely nothing special, and has done nothing at all to change that view of him by most..

  Alabama's defense had 8 players drafted into the NFL off the team Manziel dismantled.... for 2 straight years. 3 of which were first round picks. Tee it back up and try again...because your theory is a pile of fail. Manziel will be in Canton in 20 years.
• robj55

  

  That should have been intercepted
• Footwedge

  And...those that think Manziel has a weaker arm than Kaepernick, you have no clue and shouldn't even post here anymore.
• robj55

  

  They are just playing off and giving up the underneath throw every time.
• KB0938

  Footwedge;1647005 wrote:Alabama's defense had 8 players drafted into the NFL off the team Manziel dismantled.... for 2 straight years. 3 of which were first round picks. Tee it back up and try again...because your theory is a pile of fail. Manziel will be in Canton in 20 years.

  Just because theyre drafted doesnt mean they pan out or are good or even average pros. I dont know why I even respond to you honestly, either your spiel here is an act or you truly are the biggest homer and idiot that ive ever had the misfortune of talking sports with