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2014 Cleveland Browns Offseason Thread

  • vball10set
    Al Bundy;1646262 wrote:I know that you are always accurate with numbers and facts :) but he was 20 when he won the Heisman.
    Footwedge;1646282 wrote:Wrong.
    Actually, he isn't wrong.
  • vball10set
    Al Bundy;1646300 wrote:Manziel was born on December 6, 1992. He won the Heisman on December 8, 2012. I know that you are mathematically challenged, but that would make him 20 years old.
    Sorry, looks like I was posting while you were. Anyway, we both had the same idea--showing Wedgie he was wrong yet again.
  • DeyDurkie5
    Footwedge really is a moron
  • Automatik
    DeyDurkie5;1646312 wrote:Footwedge really is a moron
    It's unbelievable.


    Thinking Manziel should be starting is fucking assinine. My friend is a Manziel nutswinger, BIG TIME. He even admits that he should be sitting right now. The dumbfuck bought his jersey the day after the draft. :laugh:
  • Ytowngirlinfla
    God I hate Mary Kay Cabot. I don't want to wake up and turn on Dan Patrick to hear that bitch's voice.
  • Midstate01
    I'm guessing johnny slept with Mary Kay's daughter or something. That bitch hates him. I don't think she's ever posted anything positive about him.
  • iclfan2
    Midstate01;1646344 wrote:I'm guessing johnny slept with Mary Kay's daughter or something. That bitch hates him. I don't think she's ever posted anything positive about him.
    Her having a job is what's wrong with America. You don't have to be good at it, yet here you are. Not to mention talk radio brings her on like her opinion is valid. I hate Cle sports media for the most part. At least Booms rips her. Baskin and Phelps have her on once a week. I SWEAR she has called and emailed people begging for stories because she has no real sources in the organization for the last 2 years. It is a fact.
  • Ytowngirlinfla
    Midstate01;1646344 wrote:I'm guessing johnny slept with Mary Kay's daughter or something. That bitch hates him. I don't think she's ever posted anything positive about him.
    Maybe he wouldn't sleep with that old hag. She was ragging on him this morning about his shitty attitude.
  • Midstate01
    She literally has no inside info. All her info comes from sources. Which are the national media guys... She's the worst.
  • Footwedge
    SportsAndLady;1646284 wrote:The irony in your last statement is rich
    Say what you sfb's, but I do my research before I post. If you bring up the Browns playoff thread from 2 years ago...I was wrong that time.
  • Footwedge
    BR1986FB;1646299 wrote:The Manziel "fanboys" are hilarious. They aren't about the "Cleveland Browns", they are about the "Johnny Manziel's." In their eyes, he can do no wrong and is the clear choice to be the starter even though he looked like complete horseshit in the preseason, so far. He's skittish and is NOT ready for prime time. Just fucking relax and take a DEEP breath, fanboys, his time will come and he'll probably be pretty damn good....just not yet. It's looks pretty clear that Hoyer isn't a long term solution. I don't care who is back there as long as they win.
    No, fat boy...the Manziel backers want what is best for the Cleveland Browns right now. And no...he didn't look like complete shit in the preseason. That title belongs to Hoyer. I posted the numbers. You forget that Manziel didn't make even one bad throw in the Detroit game. Can Hoyer say the same?Like I said above, Pettine is sackless and he placated to the national pundits...like Esiason and Jaws, instead of awarding the job to the guy that performed the best so far.
  • Footwedge
    Al Bundy;1646300 wrote:Manziel was born on December 6, 1992. He won the Heisman on December 8, 2012. I know that you are mathematically challenged, but that would make him 20 years old.
    You are truly a fucking idiot...in making the claim that he won the Heisman as a 20 year old. Really. The games played \in winning the Heisman were done as a teenager.
  • vball10set
    You can always tell that someone's backed into a corner when they resort to name calling....amirite?
  • Footwedge
    Automatik;1646314 wrote:It's unbelievable.Thinking Manziel should be starting is fucking assinine. My friend is a Manziel nutswinger, BIG TIME. He even admits that he should be sitting right now. The dumbfuck bought his jersey the day after the draft. :laugh:
    And the Indians should have stuck with Wayne Kirby over Manny Ramirez in 1994 too. The only difference is that Wayne Kirby was a better baseball player than the undrafted FA football player from MSU.
  • Al Bundy
    Footwedge;1646371 wrote:You are truly a fucking idiot...in making the claim that he won the Heisman as a 20 year old.
    He was born on December 6, 1992 and won the Heisman on December 8, 2012. Is it really that difficult to calculate that he was 20 years old at that time?
  • thavoice
    Al Bundy;1646374 wrote:He was born on December 6, 1992 and won the Heisman on December 8, 2012. Is it really that difficult to calculate that he was 20 years old at that time?
    Petty argument. Yes, he was 20 when he officially won it, but his actions and the voting to give him Heisman all happened when he was 19.

    but of all the things to argue about with FW, this is a minor one!
  • vball10set
    Al Bundy;1646374 wrote:He was born on December 6, 1992 and won the Heisman on December 8, 2012. Is it really that difficult to calculate that he was 20 years old at that time?
  • BR1986FB
    Footwedge;1646370 wrote:No, fat boy...the Manziel backers want what is best for the Cleveland Browns right now. And no...he didn't look like complete shit in the preseason. That title belongs to Hoyer. I posted the numbers. You forget that Manziel didn't make even one bad throw in the Detroit game. Can Hoyer say the same?Like I said above, Pettine is sackless and he placated to the national pundits...like Esiason and Jaws, instead of awarding the job to the guy that performed the best so far.
    LOL, sorry Gramps....the Manziel backers DON'T have the Cleveland Browns in their best interest. They, like your boy, Chuck Booms just want to be RIGHT. They have JFF in their best interest. And, as usual, you're wrong in that Manziel has looked like shit. Hoyer has looked worse but, at this point, I really don't want to see EITHER on the field. We're kind of stuck though with the choice of a shit sandwich or a diarrhea milkshake.

    I guess it's true what they say about Alzheimer's in people your age, oh geriatric one.....
  • BR1986FB
  • Al Bundy
    thavoice;1646378 wrote:Petty argument. Yes, he was 20 when he officially won it, but his actions and the voting to give him Heisman all happened when he was 19.

    but of all the things to argue about with FW, this is a minor one!
    It doesn't even matter that he won the Heisman in terms of NFL success. There is no correlation between Heisman winners and NFL success. It doesn't matter that he beat an Alabama team that went on to with the national championship. LSU did that the previous year with rotating QB's who both suck.

    I think that Manziel has more upside than Hoyer, but they both suck right now. If Manziel would have put in more work time and studied the playbook more instead of partying much of the summer, there is a good chance he would have won the starting job. I don't care who the QB is. If they win, it can be Shaw or Grossman for all I care.
  • vball10set
    thavoice;1646378 wrote:...but of all the things to argue about with FW, this is a minor one!
    Aren't they all?
  • DeyDurkie5
    Footwedge wants us to play a rookie qb who has no grasp of the playbook(see his gruden qb camp), no understanding of making reads and audibling over a veteran guy with nfl starts under his belt all because he did well in college. I mean it's to the point where I want to renig on this bet of ours because I don't think the moron has a 100 dollars to give me when I win
  • BR1986FB
    DeyDurkie5;1646401 wrote:I mean it's to the point where I want to renig on this bet of ours because I don't think the moron has a 100 dollars to give me when I win
    He'll pay you in food stamps.
  • Heretic
    I do love how the "he won the Heisman" card is being brought up by Footwedge as this great reason Johnny should be playing. Because, man, I doubt any of us could ever come up with any Heisman winning quarterbacks who turned out to be colossal busts in the NFL or anything (or just not had real careers because their abilities didn't translate to the pro game). I mean, those don't exist, do they?!?!?
  • BR1986FB
    I can't think of a former Heisman winning QB that DOESN'T have a bust in Canton...:rolleyes: