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SportsAndLady;1436437 wrote:Because he thinks he should have been the top player? I don't think that makes him a bitch.

He better back it up though, that's for sure.

NY media will love him.

Because he fired his agent due to him slipping. What did his agent have to do with it? He also refused to show up on day 2 because he didnt go in the first round. I believe he refused to speak to anybody after the first round was over because he was too busy QQing.

Not saying he wont be good, but he is making himself out to be a little baby.

Pick6

Vic Carucci ‏@viccarucci
How important are undrafted FAs? 15 are in the Pro Football HOF. That's 2 more than top overall pix & 7 more than Heisman winners.

Hb31187

Pick6;1436439 wrote:Because he fired his agent due to him slipping. What did his agent have to do with it? He also refused to show up on day 2 because he didnt go in the first round. I believe he refused to speak to anybody after the first round was over because he was too busy QQing.

Not saying he wont be good, but he is making himself out to be a little baby.

he was.just embarrassed in front of millions of.people. would you want to give a damn interview?

lhslep134

Pick6;1436440 wrote:Vic Carucci ‏@viccarucci
How important are undrafted FAs? 15 are in the Pro Football HOF. That's 2 more than top overall pix & 7 more than Heisman winners.

LOL talk about fun with stats. Small sample size of #1's and giant sample size of UDFA

That tweet is worthless to me

Pick6

lhslep134;1436475 wrote:LOL talk about fun with stats. Small sample size of #1's and giant sample size of UDFA

That tweet is worthless to me

I understand the obvious large discrepancy in sample sizes, but I still think its impressive that there are more hall of famers of "nobodys" than "cant miss superstars". Some scouting, huh.

sherm03

Pick6;1436439 wrote:Because he fired his agent due to him slipping. What did his agent have to do with it? He also refused to show up on day 2 because he didnt go in the first round. I believe he refused to speak to anybody after the first round was over because he was too busy QQing.

Not saying he wont be good, but he is making himself out to be a little baby.

He did show up on the second day. You must have tuned in late.

Pick6;1436483 wrote:I understand the obvious large discrepancy in sample sizes, but I still think its impressive that there are more hall of famers of "nobodys" than "cant miss superstars". Some scouting, huh.

Doesn't really have much to do with scouting. There have been plenty of guys that would have been top talents but got hurt and ended up going undrafted (only to come back and become great players). There's also been plenty of first round picks who get hurt early in their career and never play again.

It's not an impressive stat.

Pick6

sherm03;1436488 wrote:He did show up on the second day. You must have tuned in late.

Doesn't really have much to do with scouting. There have been plenty of guys that would have been top talents but got hurt and ended up going undrafted (only to come back and become great players). There's also been plenty of first round picks who get hurt early in their career and never play again.

It's not an impressive stat.

Can you name me some guys who were good but were UDFAs because of injury and later became HOFers? Not saying you are wrong, would just like to know. I would say more 1st overall picks flame out because they arent as good as believed to be, not because of injury.

sherm03

Pick6;1436491 wrote:Can you name me some guys who were good but were UDFAs because of injury and later became HOFers? Not saying you are wrong, would just like to know. I would say more 1st overall picks flame out because they arent as good as believed to be, not because of injury.

Off the top of my head...no. And admittedly, I don't care enough to look it up.

Pick6

sherm03;1436503 wrote:Off the top of my head...no. And admittedly, I don't care enough to look it up.

Gotcha.

Laley23

John Randle
Warren Moon
Larry Little
Jim Langer
Emmit Thomas
Willie Wood
Willie Brown
Joe Perry
Bill Willis
Lou Groza
Dick Lane
Frank Gatski
Marion Motley
Emlen Tunnell

Pick6

Laley23;1436512 wrote:John Randle
Warren Moon
Larry Little
Jim Langer
Emmit Thomas
Willie Wood
Willie Brown
Joe Perry
Bill Willis
Lou Groza
Dick Lane
Frank Gatski
Marion Motley
Emlen Tunnell

Thanks

Laley23

Pick6;1436513 wrote:Thanks

Of course I found it on a site that was a "click to view next player". I hate those and it almost made me not go through them all, but I was curious lol.

j_crazy

Laley23;1436512 wrote:John Randle
Warren Moon
Larry Little
Jim Langer
Emmit Thomas
Willie Wood
Willie Brown
Joe Perry
Bill Willis
Lou Groza
Dick Lane
Frank Gatski
Marion Motley
Emlen Tunnell

Most of those guys were from an era when the draft was like 20 rounds.

Laley23

j_crazy;1436541 wrote:Most of those guys were from an era when the draft was like 20 rounds.

While I am not taking sides here, that would benefits Pick6s argument.

sherm03

Laley23;1436544 wrote:While I am not taking sides here, that would benefits Pick6s argument.

Not really. Even when there were 20 rounds, there was still just one guy who was the top overall pick.

Laley23

sherm03;1436580 wrote:Not really. Even when there were 20 rounds, there was still just one guy who was the top overall pick.

But less of a chance for someone to go undrafted and make an impact.

I mean, if we had 20 rounds today, NO ONE signed after the draft would be undrafted. They would all be drafted at somepoint.

sherm03

Laley23;1436581 wrote:But less of a chance for someone to go undrafted and make an impact.

I mean, if we had 20 rounds today, NO ONE signed after the draft would be undrafted. They would all be drafted at somepoint.

We had 12 rounds of a draft as early as 1992. No, that's not 20 rounds...but no matter what there will still be lots of guys that don't get drafted for whatever reason and sign as undrafted FA's after the fact.

BR1986FB

SportsAndLady;1436437 wrote:Because he thinks he should have been the top player? I don't think that makes him a bitch.

Maybe not a bitch but delusional. Guy shouldn't have been a top 20 pick, let alone a #1 pick, and he fell to where he should have. In last years draft he's probably a 3rd/4th round pick.

Sonofanump

Saw Tyrann Mathieu is not going to sign without guaranteed money. Ha, sounds like a problem to me.

Pick6

Sonofanump;1436844 wrote:Saw Tyrann Mathieu is not going to sign without guaranteed money. Ha, sounds like a problem to me.

Is that uncommon?

Commander of Awesome

Sonofanump;1436844 wrote:Saw Tyrann Mathieu is not going to sign without guaranteed money. Ha, sounds like a problem to me.

According to collective bargaining agreement, they wont be allowed to sign him without including the guaranteed money anyways. Non story.

Iliketurtles

http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/fandom/post/_/id/21474/irrelevant-week-is-pretty-well-relevant

I don't know how I've never heard about this before... or maybe I have and just forgot but that is pretty fucking sweet. If I wasn't picked in the first 2-3 rounds I'd just hope to be Mr. Irrelevant.

BR1986FB

More scrutiny on Geno Smith....

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/5/2/4292086/geno-smith-jets-leadership-agent

Gblock

Iliketurtles;1436995 wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/fandom/post/_/id/21474/irrelevant-week-is-pretty-well-relevant

I don't know how I've never heard about this before... or maybe I have and just forgot but that is pretty ****ing sweet. If I wasn't picked in the first 2-3 rounds I'd just hope to be Mr. Irrelevant.

i wouldnt go that far but i would rather be named mr. irrelevent and at least be drafted, than sign as a FA after the draft

BR1986FB

Gblock;1437236 wrote:i wouldnt go that far but i would rather be named mr. irrelevent and at least be drafted, than sign as a FA after the draft

Those perks Mr Irrelevent gets are nice but at that point I'd rather go undrafted so I could pick my own team. I wouldn't want to have to retire versus playing for the Steelers.

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