Kansas City Chiefs @ Cleveland Browns

• Crimson streak

  

  Commander of Awesome;1339345 wrote:Don't want any player from ND. They just don't transition well to the NFL.

  
  Really? ND's tight ends have been nothing but solid. Rudolph, Fasano, Carlson. I think Eiffert is the best of them all. Now qb's that's another story lol
• Commander of Awesome

  

  I don't want a "solid" TE in the first round. (I highly disagree with you on them being solid as well). I can't think of a player in the last 10 yrs, probably longer thats been a good player in the NFL from ND.
• se-alum

  

  Commander of Awesome;1339354 wrote:I don't want a "solid" TE in the first round. (I highly disagree with you on them being solid as well). I can't think of a player in the last 10 yrs, probably longer thats been a good player in the NFL from ND.

  Justin Tuck.
• like_that

  

  Commander of Awesome;1339354 wrote:I don't want a "solid" TE in the first round. (I highly disagree with you on them being solid as well). I can't think of a player in the last 10 yrs, probably longer thats been a good player in the NFL from ND.

  I didn't think he was talking about taking him in the first rd, but if he was excuse me while I LMAO. Taking a TE in the first round would be such a waste. I say go defense in the first round. There is a lot of defensive talent in this draft class.
  
  Also I can't think of a player in the last 10 years either. Golden Tate is one of the bigger douches in the NFL. I think Zibokowski legit might be the best ND player in the NFL right now.
• killer_ewok

  

  se-alum;1339359 wrote:Justin Tuck.

  
  Yep.
• like_that

  

  Actually I take that back, forgot Justin Tuck went to ND.
• Crimson streak

  

  Harrison smith is having a hell of a year for the Vikings also. I was thinking Eiffert in the 2nd and then I forgot we don't have a 2nd lol so nvm
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Justin Tuck is the best player in the past 15 yrs in the NFL from ND. To use him as the reason to draft a TE from their in the first round is ridiculous though. Might as well say draft the best player from SD State bc Marshall Faulk went there.
• dazedconfused

  

  we'd be right in the milliner range for the draft...i'd be fine with that
• killer_ewok

  

  Commander of Awesome;1339373 wrote:Justin Tuck is the best player in the past 15 yrs in the NFL from ND. To use him as the reason to draft a TE from their in the first round is ridiculous though. Might as well say draft the best player from SD State bc Marshall Faulk went there.

  
  I don't think anyone was using Justin Tuck as a reason to justify drafting Eifert in the 1st round (and crimson already stated he didn't mean take him in the 1st). Rather, it was simply mentioned to refute the statement that there haven't been any good players in the NFL from ND in the last 10 years.
• Crimson streak

  

  Honestly once nd players go pro I could give 2 shits about how well they do. Sure it's nice to see them do well unless they play for the steelers or ravens. I just think Eiffert will be a very good te in the nfl. I would feel the same of he went to USC or Ohio st or wherever. I forgot we didn't have a 2nd rounder this year so the point is moot
• Ironman92

  

  The best ND player in the pros might be pitching for teh Cubs.
• like_that

  

  Did anyone see the "paycheck hillis" sign in the endzone? That brought the lulz.
• Ironman92

  

  like_that;1339438 wrote:Did anyone see the "paycheck hillis" sign in the endzone? That brought the lulz.

  
  Ridiculous he got that much money. Sounds like Thomas and the boys were right and took it to him today.
• derek bomar

  

  Commander of Awesome;1339373 wrote:Justin Tuck is the best player in the past 15 yrs in the NFL from ND. To use him as the reason to draft a TE from their in the first round is ridiculous though. Might as well say draft the best player from SD State bc Marshall Faulk went there.

  Minnesota's TE isn't too bad
• Commander of Awesome

  

  derek bomar;1339685 wrote:Minnesota's TE isn't too bad

  661 yds on his career. That's prety shitty for a high 2nd round TE. 400 yds this season, if it wasn't for the TDs you wouldn't be saying that. We'll see if he keeps up the TD production or is the next Mercedes Lewis.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Rudolph is 21st in the league by yds. lol not that bad but in the bottom half of the league. Come on guys, you got to be fucking kidding me with this bullshit. You're arguing with Kyle Rudolph?
• killer_ewok

  

  Commander of Awesome;1339695 wrote:Rudolph is 21st in the league by yds. lol not that bad but in the bottom half of the league. Come on guys, you got to be fucking kidding me with this bullshit. You're arguing with Kyle Rudolph?

  Point taken on the yards but tied for 2nd in the NFL amongst TE's with 8 receiving TD's (tied with Jimmy Graham and only Gronk is ahead of them) is pretty good company to be in.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Mercedes Lewis led the league in TDs by TEs few seasons ago, and 2 seasons ago Vernon Davis led the league in TD catches. None have even come close to repeating the production. Majority of the time, when TDs come only in the RZ its a bit flukey. I don't envision Rudolph having 8 TD catches next season.
• derek bomar

  

  I said he's not that bad. He's not the best TE in the league, but then again Christian Ponder is a worthless piece of shit when it comes to being able to actually throw the ball (although he has a hot fiance, so kudos to him)...
• Commander of Awesome

  

  His fiance is solid, but not NFL QB hot IMO. I'd expect him to do better.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  
• Laley23

  

  Tyler Eiffert will be a very solid TE in the pros. Maybe a Pro Bowler with a good QB.
  
  That said, you dont take TEs early. They are too easy to find elsewhere and get production out of. Look at who is tops right now...Graham and Gronk (and Hernandez when healthy). I have no clue when they were drafted, but I do know Gresham and Rudolph and Pettigrew and etc etc etc were taken in the first 2 rounds and are not worth that pick compared to later or undrafted TEs.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Also can't think of a SB winning team where the primary reciever was a TE. Look at the chiefs, chargers, cowboys over the past decade. If your offense is run through your TE you have problems.
• Laley23

  

  Commander of Awesome;1339812 wrote:Also can't think of a SB winning team where the primary reciever was a TE. Look at the chiefs, chargers, cowboys over the past decade. If your offense is run through your TE you have problems.

  Thats a good point. However, the Pats could have easily won the SB last year. But they would seem to be the exception.