NBA 2012-13

• James Gatz

  Laley23;1350116 wrote:He said it was a bad pick because he didnt see Turner as someone who could lead you to a title. Which I think is true, and at #2 overall, thats a waste.

  What player did they have the option of taking that could lead a team to a title? Favors, Wes Johnson, Cousins, Udoh, Monroe, Aminu? I would take Monroe over Turner(maybe) but he's not a guy that could lead a team to a title, no one(including Wall) in that draft is.
  
  Also, here's a list of the last 11 #2 picks
  Kidd-Gilchrist
  Williams
  Turner
  Thabeet
  Beasley
  Durant
  Aldridge
  Williams
  Okafur
  Milicic
  Williams
  
  Turner is near the top end of that class of guys. In fact, there's only 2 guys I'd rank solidly above him. Thinking you're going to get "a guy who can lead you to a title" at #2 is a poor standard. There just aren't that many guys of that caliber floating around out there.
  
  Whining incessantly about the Turner pick was idiotic, and I'm guessing mostly driven by his nut hugging of Kentucky. I honestly didn't remember who it was, and Azu is a solid poster, but he looks pretty foolish on that one.
• Azubuike24

  

  Another negative about Turner. He's 25. How much upside does he have? When in doubt, I'd still go with a guy who has more potential. Again, it's tough because I actually want Turner to become a star.
  
  It's funny though because of that list you posted, you only take ONE guy over Turner? Haha. A 19-year old Kidd-Gilchrist, really? LaMarcus Aldridge, who by the way, is only 27...yet he's in his 7th year. Durant, that's a no-brainer obviously.
  
  Maybe it's just my philosophy and I do agree there doesn't appear to be a guy they totally whiffed on in that draft. Either way, if you draft a 22-year old that high he better be an immediate impact guy who is a guaranteed top-end option. Maybe not a mega-star, but someone you can consider building a franchise around. For as solid as Turner's style is, I just never saw him becoming that and IMO, that's selling yourself short with a #2 overall pick.
  
  I guess we'll have to let things play out a bit longer on this debate.
• James Gatz

  Azubuike24;1350157 wrote:It's funny though because of that list you posted, you only take ONE guy over Turner?

  I guess that would be "funny" except I clearly said two. In fact, I said there's two guys I'd "rank solidly above him" meaning someone like MKG could rise above him eventually. Your jimmies are so rustled you misread my post.
• wildcats20

  

  Sully playing really well today
• gport_tennis

  Some questionable calls to me
• gport_tennis

  Gasol wore his big boy pants today. Nice dunk to close the game out
• robj55

  

  No way that is a flagrant foul.
• Midstate01

  

  robj55;1350690 wrote:No way that is a flagrant foul.

  
  Not even close
• Ironman92

  

  Westbrook is pissed but not real sure anything was dirty. Wade was going all for ball and Battier went more recklessly into the stands than anyone after reaching for ball but hitting his arms.
  
  Just looked like a basketball play to me. Happens about twice a game in high school.
• robj55

  

  They both hit the ball, it just looked worse than what it was. Atleast they got it right.
• robj55

  

  Gotta think these two teams will meet in the finals again this year.
• Ironman92

  

  This is a pretty good game....maybe bought off Stern-style for Christmas but good.
• Crimson streak

  

  Wade is such a bitch
• Ironman92

  

  OKC 34 ft
  Miami 12
  
  Not saying it's right or wrong....just surprising
• like_that

  

  Crimson streak;1350698 wrote:Wade is such a bitch

  You beat me to it.
• Ironman92

  

  Crimson streak;1350698 wrote:Wade is such a bitch

  
  Fall down 8 times......get up 8 times.....3 without hesitation and should've only fell twice. I think that's how the commercial went.
• robj55

  

  What did Wade do, did I miss something?
• Crimson streak

  

  robj55;1350704 wrote:What did Wade do, did I miss something?

  
  What doesn't he do? He still flops all over the place and cries like a ***** every possession.
  
  Ray Allen got what was coming to him on that screen
• Ironman92

  

  robj55;1350704 wrote:What did Wade do, did I miss something?

  
  Got hit a little bit (and he hit some too)...fell down, rolled in agony, laid there a second and then got up pissed.?
• Ironman92

  

  Crimson streak;1350705 wrote:What doesn't he do? He still flops all over the place and cries like a ***** every possession.
  
  Ray Allen got what was coming to him on that screen

  
  I'll bite....what did Ray Allen do besides piss off Boston?
• Crimson streak

  

  Ironman92;1350707 wrote:I'll bite....what did Ray Allen do besides piss off Boston?

  
  Ehh that whole leaving Boston to go to Miami thing after what happened in the playoffs was a huge douche move. Plus he flopped like 2 min earlier and got the offensive foul on Westbrook.
• Ironman92

  

  That was great patience on that crucial play.
• robj55

  

  Oh okay I didn't see it I guess, wasn't paying attention.
• 2kool4skool

  

  lol at the officials not calling, and most especially the announcers not even mentioning, the blatant slap across the arm from Chalmers on that Durant dunk. You'll never see a clearer uncalled And-1.
• robj55

  

  That was great D and a great shot