Chicago Cubs (Chris Volstad) vs Cincinnati Reds (Mat Latos) - Game 4

• thavoice

  SportsAndLady;1251000 wrote:Jesus christ, he's a ****ing major league baseball player, I think he'll be okay playing the ****ing outfield. It's not like he's transitioning from Offensive Guard to Quarterback.

  You really must not follow how things happen in baseball if you think that Hamilton has any chance at all of being the CF at the end of the season and in the postseason.
  I never said he couldnt do it, I am just saying that it wont happen.
  
  You remind of of that episode where Constanza walks into Steinbrunners office and tells him how he can get like Griffey and Bonds and not really have to give up much at all. You, and Costanza, must live in some alternate bizarro baseball world.
• SportsAndLady

  

  thavoice;1251374 wrote:You really must not follow how things happen in baseball if you think that Hamilton has any chance at all of being the CF at the end of the season and in the postseason.
  I never said he couldnt do it, I am just saying that it wont happen.
  
  You remind of of that episode where Constanza walks into Steinbrunners office and tells him how he can get like Griffey and Bonds and not really have to give up much at all. You, and Costanza, must live in some alternate bizarro baseball world.

  Considering you're the same fucktard who kept predicting the reds' demise, im pretty confident in my prediction knowing that you disagree.
• thavoice

  SportsAndLady;1251380 wrote:Considering you're the same ****tard who kept predicting the reds' demise, im pretty confident in my prediction knowing that you disagree.

  You obviously dont understand the premise of the reverse jinx.
  
  If Hamilton is the starting CF for the reds come postseason time then I will vacate the OC once and for all. There is NO FN way his is the Reds CF for the postseason, and if you really believe he will then, well, I think you lost all credibility in not just the reds, but baseball in general.
• SportsAndLady

  

  thavoice;1251384 wrote:You obviously dont understand the premise of the reverse jinx.
  
  If Hamilton is the starting CF for the reds come postseason time then I will vacate the OC once and for all. There is NO FN way his is the Reds CF for the postseason, and if you really believe he will then, well, I think you lost all credibility in not just the reds, but baseball in general.

  I love how you're calling out a bold prediction LOL I understand the odds are against me, that's why its called a bold prediction. 20 year olds can't be in MVP races, right thavoice?! Right?! That's not how baseball works!!
• thavoice

  SportsAndLady;1251388 wrote:I love how you're calling out a bold prediction LOL I understand the odds are against me, that's why its called a bold prediction. 20 year olds can't be in MVP races, right thavoice?! Right?! That's not how baseball works!!

  There are bold predictions and just plain stupid ones.
  
  BOLD PREDICTION: Bengals will improve on their season and make it to the SB.
  STUPID PREDICTION: Browns will go undefeated and win the SB.
  
  Your "bold" prediction is more like that latter than the former.
• SportsAndLady

  

  LOL okay so you're comparing a minor league player getting called up and starting to the browns going undefeated and winning the super bowl....gotcha.
• thavoice

  SportsAndLady;1251404 wrote:LOL okay so you're comparing a minor league player getting called up and starting to the browns going undefeated and winning the super bowl....gotcha.

  Nah. It's a little more than what you just stated. It isnt just some ML player getting called up and starting....
  
  It is a ML player getting called up, playing a position that is foreign to him, in a pennant race and postseason, on a team that, as currently constructed, has one of the best records in baseball.
  
  THat is a little diff than just calling up some ML'er to start.
  
  If the reds were in the basement and going no where....eh.....yeah...calling up a ML and having him be the regular starter by the end of the season is very within the realm of possibilities. Most def it is. WIth his athleticism I could see them maybe give him an audition in the OF if that was the case, but even then ya dont see it happen a whole lot.
  
  More likely you see him come up, maybe spot start at SS to give Cozart a break, PH and PR after the callups to the 40 man roster. WOuld he then be on the postseason roster? Depends on what he would do in the chances he got but I imagine there is a decent chance he would be...but who knows.
• Ironman92

  

  thavoice;1251384 wrote:You obviously dont understand the premise of the reverse jinx.
  
  If Hamilton is the starting CF for the reds come postseason time then I will vacate the OC once and for all. There is NO FN way his is the Reds CF for the postseason, and if you really believe he will then, well, I think you lost all credibility in not just the reds, but baseball in general.

  
  Just for thought.....
  
  You know Dusty has Stubbs over Heisey....case closed a proven....undebatable. Stubbs sucks a good portion of the time. His strikeouts are back at his horrible career pace. If he continues to suck without any of those great streaks....say he's hitting .210 and with a huge lead Hamilton gets 3-5 starts in CF and owns it.....looks the part....makes a play or two in CF and is a base running nightmare for the opponents......you know it ain't going to be Heisey and if Hamilton has a sparkle....
  
  Dusty's never won it all.....Hamilton owning the chances....Stubbs adding a cold streak to his .678 OPS and Heisey murdering Dusty's kittens.....
• thavoice

  You forgot that Heisey also sexually assaulted those kittens before killing them.
  
  I just dont see Hamilton getting starts in CF this season. I really dont. I could see him spelling Cozart some and getting some PH and PR running in. Just doesnt seem to be the way they do things. Frazier came up and played some OF, but had played OF in the minors and such.
  
  You know Dusty is a veterans type of guy...he wont be taking STubbs position from him and letting someone who hasnt played CF man the spot at this time of year.
  
  Next year.....it is anyones game.
• Ironman92

  

  thavoice;1252072 wrote:You forgot that Heisey also sexually assaulted those kittens before killing them.
  
  I just dont see Hamilton getting starts in CF this season. I really dont. I could see him spelling Cozart some and getting some PH and PR running in. Just doesnt seem to be the way they do things. Frazier came up and played some OF, but had played OF in the minors and such.
  
  You know Dusty is a veterans type of guy...he wont be taking STubbs position from him and letting someone who hasnt played CF man the spot at this time of year.
  
  Next year.....it is anyones game.

  
  Dusty loves fast guys who can't get on base in CF.....if Hamilton truly isn't ready there may not be a player anywhere Dusty could like more.
• thavoice

  Ironman92;1252468 wrote:Dusty loves fast guys who can't get on base in CF.....if Hamilton truly isn't ready there may not be a player anywhere Dusty could like more.

  I see what you did there!!!!
  
  I do think that the Reds have full intentions of him playing the OF, but wont really put him there at the ML level until he plays it in MiLB or fall/winter leagues. If the season was tanking and there were no other options then maybe during sept call ups, but not now.
  
  I heard where they are like 43-5 when Stubbs scores. THat is insane. I wonder what the record is in games that Cozart scores, or any other player.
• Azubuike24

  

  thavoice;1252913 wrote:I heard where they are like 43-5 when Stubbs scores. THat is insane. I wonder what the record is in games that Cozart scores, or any other player.

  If you pick an isolated player and quote this stat, it's going to be very similar. Especially when the player you pick is not a great player.
• slcoach

  Azubuike24;1252922 wrote:If you pick an isolated player and quote this stat, it's going to be very similar. Especially when the player you pick is not a great player.

  Stubbs 44-5
  Cozart 40-15
  Phillips 41-9
  Luddy 23-9
  Heisey 18-7
  Votto 31-11
  Frazier 25-8
• thavoice

  I think that stubbs' record is so good is because maybe he doesnt get on and score a ton, so the games that he does is games that they were really humming and was easier for him to get on?. WHo knows. He doesnt seem to hit good pitching...so the games they fce good pitching he isnt getting on and scoring. I figured VOttos wasnt going to be that good because the dude hits everyone,.
  
  I remember a kid on our basketball team. He usually only played when we were winning big...and in a bizarre stat at the end of the season our coach pointed out that we were like 10-0 when he scored a point!
• se-alum

  

  thavoice;1253058 wrote:I think that stubbs' record is so good is because maybe he doesnt get on and score a ton, so the games that he does is games that they were really humming and was easier for him to get on?. WHo knows. He doesnt seem to hit good pitching...so the games they fce good pitching he isnt getting on and scoring. I figured VOttos wasnt going to be that good because the dude hits everyone,.
  
  I remember a kid on our basketball team. He usually only played when we were winning big...and in a bizarre stat at the end of the season our coach pointed out that we were like 10-0 when he scored a point!

  Yea, it's a rather ridiculous stat.
• Ironman92

  

  I think Hanigan is 21-4
  
  
  I remember about 7 or 8 days ago I did this over the past 23 times each Reds player scored....over those previous 23 it was...
  
  Phillips 21-2
  Stubbs 19-4
  Heisey 18-5
  Votto 17-6
  Rolen 17-6
  Frazier 17-6
  Ludwick 17-6
  Cozart 17-6
  
  Those were the only players to score in 23 games at that time....worst record 17-6
• mhs95_06

  91-1 when leading after 8.2 innings!