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Cases where the best team didn't win it.

  • Al Bundy
    hasbeen;1211936 wrote:Maddux: 19-2, 1.63 ERA
    Glavine: 16-7, 3.08 ERA
    Smoltz: 12-7, 3.18 ERA
    Wohlers: 7-3, 25 Saves, 2.09 ERA
    Clontz: 8-1, 4 saves, 3.65 ERA

    That's a tough pitching staff to go against.
    That was a great staff, but it would have been interesting if they called the strike accurately. That series led to MLB removing the overhead cams at stadiums because of how poorly the umps did with the strike zone.
  • wes_mantooth
    Al Bundy;1212412 wrote:That was a great staff, but it would have been interesting if they called the strike accurately. That series led to MLB removing the overhead cams at stadiums because of how poorly the umps did with the strike zone.
    yeah, no doubt. They def got the benefit of a generous zone. Nothing will ever compare though to that game Levan(sp?) Hernandez threw against Atlanta to eliminate them in 97'. Eric Gregg should have lost his job on the spot...it was ridiculous.
  • like_that
    wes_mantooth;1212396 wrote:yeah, it is crazy that anyone other than Belle was even considered. Shows what an asshole he was to the media.
    Still shouldn't matter. The award is based on who the best player is, not who the best player is who left the media the least butthurt.

    Just to compare stats:

    Belle: .317 BA, 126 RBI, 121 R, 50 HR, best team in the AL by far (insane how this was on a fucking shortened season)

    Vaughn: .300 BA, 126 RBI, 98 R, 39 HR, 150 strikeouts (Belle only had 80 in comparison)

    Complete joke.
  • wes_mantooth
    like_that;1212416 wrote:Still shouldn't matter. The award is based on who the best player is, not who the best player is who left the media the least butthurt.

    Just to compare stats:

    Belle: .317 BA, 126 RBI, 121 R, 50 HR, best team in the AL by far (insane how this was on a fucking shortened season)

    Vaughn: .300 BA, 126 RBI, 98 R, 39 HR, 150 strikeouts (Belle only had 80 in comparison)

    Complete joke.
    yeah, it was a sham.
  • Footwedge
    Con_Alma;1210855 wrote:Back in the 70s there was no Washington Wizards. They were they Washington Bullets.
    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Care to comment on the subject? Good God.
  • Footwedge
    Laley23;1211138 wrote:Federer over Sampras, Wimbledon 2001, 4th Round. Sampras was about a 9-1 favorite. That isnt even close to the biggest upset in tennis. So, again. Cavs losing is not close to the biggest upset in sports history.
    Really, really weak. And who said it was the "greatest" upset in sports history?
  • Footwedge
    Con_Alma;1212286 wrote:Bob Costas said it best when he stated the Cleveland Indians were the best team for 162 games that year and the Atlanta Braves were the best team for 6.
    Pretty interesting...since the season only lasted 144.
  • Dr. KnOiTaLL
    like_that;1212416 wrote:Still shouldn't matter. The award is based on who the best player is, not who the best player is who left the media the least butthurt.

    Just to compare stats:

    Belle: .317 BA, 126 RBI, 121 R, 50 HR, best team in the AL by far (insane how this was on a ****ing shortened season)

    Vaughn: .300 BA, 126 RBI, 98 R, 39 HR, 150 strikeouts (Belle only had 80 in comparison)

    Complete joke.
    Not to mention he had 50 doubles that season as well. Pretty insane numbers!
  • Laley23
    Footwedge;1212442 wrote:Really, really weak. And who said it was the "greatest" upset in sports history?
    Ok, so you didnt say greatest. You said one of.
    Footwedge;1210602 wrote:The 66 win year for the Cavs a few years ago. Unstoppable...and nearly unbeaten at home. Bitten by a Magic team that defied all odds and pulled off one of of the biggest upsets in all of professional sports.
    Footwedge;1210682 wrote:The Cavs were favored 6.25 to 1 in that series according to Bodog sports book. 6 to 1 is about as wide as the odds will ever get.

    "Cleveland is -625 to win the series, and should do it in 6."

    http://www.capperspicks.com/blog/nba/2009-magic-cavaliers-eastern-finals-playoff-picks/

    Not even the Baltimore Colts were a 6 to 1 favorite over the Namath Jets. (18 point favorites). I suppose the Jets upset was all about match ups too, eh?
    Footwedge;1210703 wrote:Did you read the link? The 6.25 to 1 was the Bodog line just before the Series started. FOR THAT SERIES ONLY. Not to win a title, just that series. If you wanted to bet the Cavs before the series started, then you had to lay $625 to win $100.

    Back in the mid 70's, the Washington Wizzards were 3 to 1 favorite to take it all against the GS Warriors. The Warriors won and if you google it, you will find that it is considered one of the biggest upsets ever. Yet....the Cavs were more than twice the favorite as the Warriors.

    But there's more. I guess this book had the Cavs at a full 8.5 to 1 favorites before the Series started.

    http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/2009/05/nba-playoffs-eastern-western-conference-finals-series-odds-predictions-lakers-nuggets-magic-cavaliers/

    I guess Vegas didn't know about the "matches ups" LMAO.


    Orlando over Cavs....one of the biggest upsets in sports ever.
    Footwedge;1210728 wrote:And from Betonline...all the reasons the Cavs were so heavily favored...

    http://www.betonline.com/sports-betting/basketball/cavaliers-magic-odds1


    I still say no way. I could name a ton of smaller sports upsets. I could throw out a lot of 8 seeds winning over 1 (Knicks and Warriors most notably).

    It was a big upset, but an 8-1 favorite is HARDLY anything to write home about when talking about shocking losses.
  • Con_Alma
    Footwedge;1212443 wrote:Pretty interesting...since the season only lasted 144.
    Yeah, that's right. The Indians also played 9 playoffs games before reaching the World Series. I think he said the Indians were the best for the entre season while the Braves were for 6games or something like that.

    It's been my opinion that the strike hurt that team more than anyone else.