NBA Finals: Miami Heat vs Oklahoma City Thunder

• ernest_t_bass

  

  I think, outside of each team's best 3, OKC has more game changers. So far, Miami only has Battier IMO.
• karen lotz

  

  ernest_t_bass;1201064 wrote:I think, outside of each team's best 3, OKC has more game changers. So far, Miami only has Battier IMO.

  
  That would give each team one "game changer" then. Okc has ibaka.
• karen lotz

  

  like_that;1201062 wrote:Miami's fanbase is a joke, and I don't really think they have that much of a true homecourt advantage.

  
  Won't be a huge advantage, but they do play well at home.
  
  No clue what will happen the next three games. Both teams have multiple weapons that the other team really doesn't have an answer for.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  karen lotz;1201067 wrote:That would give each team one "game changer" then. Okc has ibaka.

  
  Collison has been playing well, Sefalosa (SP?), Perkins and Haslem are a tie for me.
• robj55

  

  Miami is much better at home, and OKC won't be able to feed off of their crowd. I see Miami winning two of the next three and going back to OKC up 3-2.
• sleeper

  

  robj55;1201177 wrote:Miami is much better at home, and OKC won't be able to feed off of their crowd. I see Miami winning two of the next three and going back to OKC up 3-2.

  I think its pretty much a lock at this point that the series will go back to OKC. No way does Miami win 3 straight.
• Ironman92

  

  like_that;1201062 wrote:Miami's fanbase is a joke, and I don't really think they have that much of a true homecourt advantage.

  
  Oh, they are the worst or at least near, but Wade should be very good there and if Wade and LeBoob are going well they will be right there.
  
  I wonder what would happen if OKC held Battier and Chalmers to about 10 total points what would happen? Bosh scores so much from outside...if Wade and LeBron score 58 points total and Bosh is not hitting......but you can't let Chalmers drive in for layups and allow Battier to look like an all-star.
• Ironman92

  

  karen lotz;1201067 wrote:That would give each team one "game changer" then. Okc has ibaka.

  
  Collison has to be close....things go well when he's in.
• Ironman92

  

  Yeah, Thabo plays a pretty good role as well.
• shook_17

  

  is the next game saturday night or sunday?
• robj55

  

  shook_17;1201247 wrote:is the next game saturday night or sunday?

  sunday at 8
• tmac23

  OKC will win one in Miami. They need to keep up the intensity. played last game like it was game seven.Miami wins and Cleveland fans can get on with there lives again.Lebron will move on to the next Dream Team.
• jhay78

  

  Interesting facts about the Finals and the 2-3-2 format:
  
  http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2012/06/16/an-historic-look-at-the-nba-finals-2-3-2-format/
  

  Nuggets on all things NBA Finals in the 2-3-2 format era.

  • The NBA Finals have been knotted up through two games 12 times since the 2-3-2 format began in 1985. The team that starts the series with home-court advantage has gone on to an 8-4 record in those instances.
  • Since the 2-3-2 format began, only two home teams have swept Games 3, 4 and 5. The 2004 Pistons did it against the Lakers, and the 2006 Heat did it against Dallas.
  • Since the 2-3-2 format began, three road teams have swept Games 3, 4 and 5. The Pistons did it in 1990 over the Blazers, the Bulls did it 1991 over the Lakers and the Lakers did it against the Sixers in 2001.
  • In the 12 times that a Finals series has been knotted at one game apiece, the most common result in the middle three games is for the home team to win Games 4 and 5, which has happened four times. The next most frequent occurrence is for the home team to lose all three games, which has happened three times. The home team, in the middle three games, has won only Game 4 twice, won Games 3 and 4 once, won Games 3 and 5 once and won all three just once.
  • Since the 2-3-2 format began, there have only been four series that have gone seven games.
  • The most common duration of a Finals series in the 2-3-2 era is six games, which has happened 14 times.
  • There have been four sweeps in the Finals under the 2-3-2 format.
  • Five Finals series have lasted just five games under the 2-3-2 format.
  • The winner of Game 3 when a Finals series under the 2-3-2 format is tied at one has gone on to win the championship 11 of 12 times.
  • Which series in the 2-3-2 era does this year’s Finals mirror most for the Thunder? The 1992 Finals. The parallels are palpable. The Bulls and the Blazers were on a collision course for the Finals all season. Each team had a superstar who was among the very best in the game, Michael Jordan for Chicago and Clyde Drexler for Portland. The Bulls won in six but, like the Thunder, surrendered home-court advantage in Game 2. Chicago won Games 3 and 5 in Portland before closing out the series at home.
  • Which series in the 2-3-2 era does this year’s Finals mirror most for the Heat? The 1985 Finals. This well-documented Lakers title over the Celtics could be the blueprint for the Heat’s path to a title. The Lakers entered that series without home-court advantage but, like the Heat, stole it in Game 2. The Lakers went on to win Games 3 and 5 at home before closing out the Celtics in Boston in Game 6.
  • Which series in the 2-3-2 era should the Heat be afraid of history repeating itself? The 1990 Finals. This is the absolute worst-case scenario for the Heat. The Pistons bulldozed the Blazers in five games, even after losing home-court advantage following a Game 2 loss. Detroit won Games 3 through 5 in Portland, becoming the first team in the 2-3-2 Finals format to win the middle three games.
  • Which series in the 2-3-2 era should the Thunder be afraid of history repeating itself? The 2011 Finals. Last year’s Heat could be this year’s Thunder. Miami entered the Finals as the favorite against Dallas, but the Heat ended up losing in six games. Miami started the series with home-court advantage but, like the Thunder this year, lost Game 2. After responding with a win in Game 3, the Heat was totally outclassed in Games 4, 5 and 6 and became the first team to go on to lose a Finals series in the 2-3-2 format after winning Game 3. And much like this year’s leading story line, last year’s Finals had a superstar seeking his first title after years of failure. When that star, Dirk Nowitzki, took over, there wasn’t a thing Miami could do about it. If LeBron James gets in a zone, we could see a similar series. Sorry, Thunder heads.
  • Which series in the 2-3-2 era does this year’s Finals seem most likely to emulate? The 1994 Finals. In terms of personnel and style of play, the ’94 Finals looked nothing like this year’s matchup. That year’s championship bout saw two great centers, Hakeem Olajuwon and Patrick Ewing, go head-to-head and neither team score more than 93 points in any game. But the Rockets and Knicks were two evenly-matched teams, with one franchise seeking its first championship (sound familiar; Seattle doesn’t count) and the other searching for its third. Houston also entered the series with home-court advantage but lost Game 2. A long, hard-fought and competitive series ensued. The Rockets eventually won in seven games. And oh yeah. It just so happens that Pat Riley was on the losing end then just as he could be now.

• Ironman92

  

  jhay78;1202002 wrote:Interesting facts about the Finals and the 2-3-2 format:
  
  http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2012/06/16/an-historic-look-at-the-nba-finals-2-3-2-format/

  
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• ernest_t_bass

  

  I personally like the 2-2-1-1-1 format better.
• Crimson streak

  

  Sas is such a douche lol. I can't stand listening to the guy he completely hates Westbrook lol
• Pick6

  

  Seen earlier that the Thunder are like 27-14 when Durant takes more shots, 27-8 when Westbrook takes more shots.
• robj55

  

  Westbrook is part of what makes OKC what they are, especially when he is in attack mode. They are a potent offensive team, with 3 guys that can get you 30 on any given night. Westbrook really is the keys to the engine on that team. Seems like based on those stats given that tonight's game is the pivotal game in the series with it being tied 1-1.
• bigdaddy2003

  

  Crimson streak;1202072 wrote:Sas is such a douche lol. I can't stand listening to the guy he completely hates Westbrook lol

  Eh he doesn't though. I watch First Take on ESPN every day and he always defends Westbrook. Skip Bayless always says Westbrook is a 2 guard being forced to play point and I agree but Stephen A always defends Westbrook. He just thought he played selfishly in game 2.
• bigdaddy2003

  

  Heat by 3 tonight.
• Crimson streak

  

  bigdaddy2003;1202188 wrote:Eh he doesn't though. I watch First Take on ESPN every day and he always defends Westbrook. Skip Bayless always says Westbrook is a 2 guard being forced to play point and I agree but Stephen A always defends Westbrook. He just thought he played selfishly in game 2.

  
  I never watch first take since I work nights so I didn't know that. But that's been westbrooks game all year no reason to change now. And he's going to go off one of these games and tonight might be the night.
• dlazz

  OKC will win tonight by 17
• Ironman92

  

  dlazz;1202233 wrote:OKC will win tonight by 17

  
  No way.
• bigdaddy2003

  

  Ironman92;1202280 wrote:No way.

  This.
• wes_mantooth

  

  Heat by 6