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  • Hb31187
    Ty Webb;1163601 wrote:Ok....keep thinking that
    Everyone but you will continue to do just that
  • robj55
    hoops23;1163595 wrote:Put PBF in the octagon, he loses. Put a MMA fighter in the ring against Floyd and he loses.

    You're trying to pick a fight between MMA and boxing and nobody is even bringing anything like that up.

    That's like picking beef against a baseball announcer because he called a baseball athlete the best player in the world... Would you hold beef with him over that in regards to comparing him to NFL or NBA players? lol.
    that's not what I was trying to say, not trying to make a big deal of it, it just irks me when they say this stuff
  • hoops23
    Ty Webb;1163601 wrote:Ok....keep thinking that
    Oh, prove to me somebody gives a fuck then.
  • hoops23
    robj55;1163605 wrote:that's not what I was trying to say, not trying to make a big deal of it, it just irks me when they say this stuff
    Understood.
  • 2kool4skool
    hoops23;1163595 wrote:That's like picking beef against a baseball announcer because he called a baseball athlete the best player in the world... Would you hold beef with him over that in regards to comparing him to NFL or NBA players? lol.
    I agree that the MMA-Boxing argument is stupid, but this isn't quite analogous. The announcers said he was "the best fighter on the planet," which is different from "best boxer." It's be more equivalent to calling a baseball player the "best athlete." It's nothing to get worked up about, but it is technically wrong.
  • robj55
    Hb31187;1163596 wrote:Its apples to oranges. Like comparing a Marathon runner to Usain Bolt. Same general sport, completely different ways of competing and going about it
    Yes it is, but boxing isn't the sport of fighting, it's the sport of punching. That's what I was trying to say, how can you call him the best fighter on the planet if he only boxes. Again no big deal, just irks me.
  • robj55
    2kool4skool;1163611 wrote:I agree that the MMA-Boxing argument is stupid, but this isn't quite analogous. The announcers said he was "the best fighter on the planet," which is different from "best boxer." It's be more equivalent to calling a baseball player the "best athlete." It's nothing to get worked up about, but it is technically wrong.
    thank you
  • 2kool4skool
    Vegas offering lines on a hypothetical PBF-Pacquaio fight again. Can't they please offer a line on whether the fight takes place in the next year? I'll gladly pound that bet like it's Mayweather's girlfriend tonight.
  • hoops23
    robj55;1163612 wrote:Yes it is, but boxing isn't the sport of fighting, it's the sport of punching. That's what I was trying to say, how can you call him the best fighter on the planet if he only boxes. Again no big deal, just irks me.
    Everytime I've seen a fight, it's usually been straight punching. We all grew up to naturally protect ourselves with our hands. Fights in school were always blow for blow. Nobody was doing triangle chokes or head kicks.

    MMA is a true trained fighting sport. Boxing is still fighting, it's just not MMA.

    I enjoy both immensely, but honestly, a big time boxing match is still a bit more prestigious to me than an MMA one. Just the environment, aura, and history.
  • robj55
    I don't ever see the fight happening, sad what boxing has come to when the two best won't even fight each other. Everyone would really like to see it.
  • hoops23
    robj55;1163617 wrote:I don't ever see the fight happening, sad what boxing has come to when the two best won't even fight each other. Everyone would really like to see it.
    Yep. The politics in the sport have really hurt it. Guys like Bob Arum who are out for their own greed are sucking the sport dry for their own personal gain.
  • robj55
    hoops23;1163616 wrote:Everytime I've seen a fight, it's usually been straight punching. We all grew up to naturally protect ourselves with our hands. Fights in school were always blow for blow. Nobody was doing triangle chokes or head kicks.

    MMA is a true trained fighting sport. Boxing is still fighting, it's just not MMA.

    I enjoy both immensely, but honestly, a big time boxing match is still a bit more prestigious to me than an MMA one. Just the environment, aura, and history.
    Fair points, they don't even compare to me but I won't hate on what you prefer. Take a guy like Jose Aldo, highly skilled in all the martial arts, Floyd is only trained in the sport of boxing(punching). If they were to get in an actual fight it wouldn't even be close, I would feel bad for Floyd. That was my point when it comes to people calling him the best FIGHTER on the planet, he's just not. I have no problem with people calling him one of the best boxers on the planet because he is and has earned that honor and recognition.
  • se-alum
    I agree with sherm, boxing is dead, and quite a joke at this point.
  • robj55
    hoops23;1163618 wrote:Yep. The politics in the sport have really hurt it. Guys like Bob Arum who are out for their own greed are sucking the sport dry for their own personal gain.
    Bob Arum is a fat greedy pig. People like him are the reason the sport is where it is.
  • hoops23
    robj55;1163619 wrote:Fair points, they don't even compare to me but I won't hate on what you prefer. Take a guy like Jose Aldo, highly skilled in all the martial arts, Floyd is only trained in the sport of boxing(punching). If they were to get in an actual fight it wouldn't even be close, I would feel bad for Floyd. That was my point when it comes to people calling him the best FIGHTER on the planet, he's just not. I have no problem with people calling him one of the best boxers on the planet because he is and has earned that honor and recognition.
    I agree with your overall point.
  • killer_ewok
    Cotto gave Mayweather a fight tonight. Assuming Pac beats Bradley....no more excuses for Floyd. Fight Manny!
  • 2kool4skool
  • hoops23
    killer_ewok;1163628 wrote:Cotto gave Mayweather a fight tonight. Assuming Pac beats Bradley....no more excuses for Floyd. Fight Manny!
    Except PBF ain't the one making excuses.
  • hoops23
    2kool4skool;1163631 wrote:
    Hilarious and true.
  • killer_ewok
    hoops23;1163632 wrote:Except PBF ain't the one making excuses.

    Actually, he is.

    http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7880510/floyd-mayweather-basic-common-sense-manny-pacquiao-uses-performance-enhancing-drugs
  • SportsAndLady
    hoops23;1163622 wrote:I agree with your overall point.
    Everyone does..but robj still wants to bang home the fact he's trying to make 1000 times
  • Hb31187
    For every article blaming manny or blaming mayweather you can find just as many pointing the finger at the other. Its stupid to argue over and over again
  • robj55
    SportsAndLady;1163638 wrote:Everyone does..but robj still wants to bang home the fact he's trying to make 1000 times
    my bad
  • hoops23
    All Manny has to do is agree just as every other fighter PBF has fought has. Oh, and Manny needs to rid of Bob Arum or it'll never happen.
  • sherm03
    hoops23;1163649 wrote:All Manny has to do is agree just as every other fighter PBF has fought has. Oh, and Manny needs to rid of Bob Arum or it'll never happen.
    It's one fight...so sure Manny can agree to it just like every other fighter PBF has fought. But at the same time, it's one fight...so PBF can forget about the stipulation and go with the regular drug testing policies just like every other fighter Pac has fought.