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  • Ty Webb
    robj55;1163564 wrote:Bob Arum is a fat greedy pig, just like Dana White said. Boxing is corrupt, they are very close to having big fights in the future and being inept.
    Like Dana White has any fucking right to call someone else greedy
  • se-alum
    PBF is a great fighter, but lets not act like he isn't scared of Paq. PBF's excuse about having to ensure his health for his families sake is hilarious!!
  • Hb31187
    Ty Webb;1163570 wrote:Why the **** should Mayweather be the only one who decides on the date an venue?? Is he god?? There are three venues that would even work for this fight: Cowboys Stadium,Louisiana Superdome,and the Georgia Dome. A venue like MGM Grand would not be able to accomadate the crowd for this fight

    Besides...Mayweather hasn't fought outside of LV since 2005. Manny would be ****ing stupid to agree to what would be a hometown fight for Floyd
    A hometown fight for PBF would be Detroit
  • hoops23
    robj55;1163569 wrote:People need to stop with this Floyd Mayweather is the best fighter on the planet stuff. He is an amazing boxer, but he is not the baddest man on the planet, that's silly.
    lol, what are you talking about? He's P4P the best boxer in the world...

    I don't think people are comparing him to Jon Jones?
  • dazedconfused
    Ty Webb;1163570 wrote:Why the **** should Mayweather be the only one who decides on the date an venue?? Is he god?? There are three venues that would even work for this fight: Cowboys Stadium,Louisiana Superdome,and the Georgia Dome. A venue like MGM Grand would not be able to accomadate the crowd for this fight

    Besides...Mayweather hasn't fought outside of LV since 2005. Manny would be ****ing stupid to agree to what would be a hometown fight for Floyd
    was the fight not at mgm grand tonight? were there not "cotto, cotto, cotto" chants?
  • Ty Webb
    Hb31187;1163561 wrote:Of course not, you'll go find someone Pro-Manny and try to justify them as being correct
    I trust Bert Sugar,who was only the most knowledgeable and respected boxing person in history
  • sherm03
    I think there's underlying reasons why the fight won't happen that nobody wants to talk about.

    I've said it before, but look at this way...the only story line that keeps boxing (somewhat) relevant is "when will Pac and PBF fight?" If the fight happens...there is no more story line for boxing to cling to in order and the sport slips even further into obscurity. Basically, a PBF/Pac fight will end the sport, IMO. And nobody wants that to happen. So they take turns making the other look like they are ducking the fight so that the controversy can keep on keeping on and the sport can get some exposure. The fight won't happen because there will be no more "mega-fights" to look forward to afterwards and the casual fan will give up on boxing altogether.
  • Ty Webb
    Hb31187;1163576 wrote:A hometown fight for PBF would be Detroit
    You do realize that he lives in Vegas now right??

    Did you even understand the point I was trying to make?
  • robj55
    Hb31187;1163573 wrote:Obviously they mean best boxer, which he def is.
    Yeah they should say that then, because there are so many dudes out there that would beat him in a fight. He is one of the best boxers in the world no question though.
  • robj55
    hoops23;1163577 wrote:lol, what are you talking about? He's P4P the best boxer in the world...

    I don't think people are comparing him to Jon Jones?
    they need to be specific, he is one of the best BOXERS in the world, not fighters
  • Hb31187
    robj55;1163582 wrote:Yeah they should say that then, because there are so many dudes out there that would beat him in a fight. He is one of the best boxers in the world no question though.
    Thats obviously why hes a boxer? Lol nobodys trying to say hes a better all around fighter than MMA fighters

    Def has better hands than anyone in the UFC though, but obviously no ground game or anything along those lines
  • hoops23
    Fact is, neither boxer is scared of the other. To think that is incredibly ignorant.

    The politics are the reason the fight isn't happening. Bob Arum being the biggest.
  • robj55
    Ty Webb;1163574 wrote:Like Dana White has any ****ing right to call someone else greedy
    He developed a sport, promoters like Bob Arum killed one.
  • Ty Webb
    sherm03;1163580 wrote:I think there's underlying reasons why the fight won't happen that nobody wants to talk about.

    I've said it before, but look at this way...the only story line that keeps boxing (somewhat) relevant is "when will Pac and PBF fight?" If the fight happens...there is no more story line for boxing to cling to in order and the sport slips even further into obscurity. Basically, a PBF/Pac fight will end the sport, IMO. And nobody wants that to happen. So they take turns making the other look like they are ducking the fight so that the controversy can keep on keeping on and the sport can get some exposure. The fight won't happen because there will be no more "mega-fights" to look forward to afterwards and the casual fan will give up on boxing altogether.
    You do make a good point sherm...

    I mean how many people could name the Heavyweight Champ without looking it up?
  • Hb31187
    Ty Webb;1163581 wrote:You do realize that he lives in Vegas now right??

    Did you even understand the point I was trying to make?
    I do realize the point you were attempting to make. Its still retarded.
  • 2kool4skool
    Boxing stays more relevant with Pac and PBF not fighting. Right now, they have two major draws. If they fight, they have one major draw. Neither side wants to risk losing their cash-cow in a fight that could very easily go either way.

    If there were more big PPV draws in boxing, there might be more incentive to make the fight, but there's not. These two are it.
  • hoops23
    dazedconfused;1163578 wrote:was the fight not at mgm grand tonight? were there not "cotto, cotto, cotto" chants?
    lol, exactly. PBF fights in Vegas because of the $$$ and Vegas IS boxing. However, he's rarely a crowd favorite.
  • Ty Webb
    robj55;1163586 wrote:He developed a sport, promoters like Bob Arum killed one.
    And he must have taken the Don King class in fight promoting...because he has shorted and ripped off his fighters to do it
  • robj55
    sherm03;1163580 wrote:I think there's underlying reasons why the fight won't happen that nobody wants to talk about.

    I've said it before, but look at this way...the only story line that keeps boxing (somewhat) relevant is "when will Pac and PBF fight?" If the fight happens...there is no more story line for boxing to cling to in order and the sport slips even further into obscurity. Basically, a PBF/Pac fight will end the sport, IMO. And nobody wants that to happen. So they take turns making the other look like they are ducking the fight so that the controversy can keep on keeping on and the sport can get some exposure. The fight won't happen because there will be no more "mega-fights" to look forward to afterwards and the casual fan will give up on boxing altogether.
    Yep, boxing is done, has been. They only have themselves to blame.
  • Ty Webb
    hoops23;1163590 wrote:lol, exactly. PBF fights in Vegas because of the $$$ and Vegas IS boxing. However, he's rarely a crowd favorite.
    You fuckers don't even get the point I was making
  • robj55
    Hb31187;1163584 wrote:Thats obviously why hes a boxer? Lol nobodys trying to say hes a better all around fighter than MMA fighters

    Def has better hands than anyone in the UFC though, but obviously no ground game or anything along those lines
    Well then he's not the baddest man on the planet, of the best fighter, that was my only point. Not trying to take anything from him, nothing he can control.
  • hoops23
    robj55;1163583 wrote:they need to be specific, he is one of the best BOXERS in the world, not fighters
    Put PBF in the octagon, he loses. Put a MMA fighter in the ring against Floyd and he loses.

    You're trying to pick a fight between MMA and boxing and nobody is even bringing anything like that up.

    That's like picking beef against a baseball announcer because he called a baseball athlete the best player in the world... Would you hold beef with him over that in regards to comparing him to NFL or NBA players? lol.
  • Hb31187
    robj55;1163594 wrote:Well then he's not the baddest man on the planet, of the best fighter, that was my only point. Not trying to take anything from him, nothing he can control.
    Its apples to oranges. Like comparing a Marathon runner to Usain Bolt. Same general sport, completely different ways of competing and going about it
  • hoops23
    Ty Webb;1163593 wrote:You fuckers don't even get the point I was making
    Nobody gives a fuck about the point you're making. PBF lives in Vegas, cool. It has nothing to do with a "hometown advantage."
  • Ty Webb
    hoops23;1163597 wrote:Nobody gives a fuck about the point your making. PBF lives in Vegas, cool. It has nothing to do with a "hometown advantage."
    Ok....keep thinking that