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Reds spring training 2012

  • Midstate01
    SportsAndLady;1134303 wrote:For the Padres..

    Really? Lol.
  • rugbywrestler
    Also being reported that Janish has been cut
  • wildcats20
    And Votto and the club are nearing an extension.
  • Midstate01
    wildcats20;1134469 wrote:And Votto and the club are nearing an extension.

    Look up.
  • wildcats20
    lol

    I even read that post.
  • TedSheckler
    FSNOhio posted this on FB. I'll believe it when I see it. Votto extension=Phillips, no extension.

    Also, Janish cut and Champman to the bullpen.
  • Midstate01
    Trade Phillips ASAP. If you can't resign him, trade him. He's going to be pissed!!
  • se-alum
    Really hope BP doesn't become a cancer in the locker room if he's not extended.
  • Midstate01
    se-alum;1134492 wrote:Really hope BP doesn't become a cancer in the locker room if he's not extended.

    I love the guy. But I could def see that happening. He wears his emotions on his sleeve. I won't be surprised to hear him say something stupid.
  • Azubuike24
    The Reds can afford Phillips, but not on a long-term deal. If he's willing to take a 2-year deal and give a slight discount, maybe 2 years, 21M or something, keep him. If not, he's going to walk. He's not worth more, especially not more years...
  • justincredible
    Votto signing a long-term contract = six to midnight. Barring injury Votto would likely be the Reds greatest hitter of all-time when he retires.
  • Jawbreaker
    se-alum;1134492 wrote:Really hope BP doesn't become a cancer in the locker room if he's not extended.
    I can see him playing lights out to get a big contract somewhere else or he could go the cancer route. Either way is possible.
  • thavoice
    I wouldnt throw a ton of money at BP. Gotta be smart and offer a good, solid fair deal. If he doesnt like it.......let me play with a chip on his shoulder all season to get a big time FA deal elsewhere.
  • thavoice
    and as far as teh votto rumor....

    >...i said it a few times before....that I wasnt sold on the fact that he was gonna be gone. I had a feeling that he would stay...although I admit I was in the minority.
  • Jawbreaker
    thavoice;1134565 wrote:and as far as teh votto rumor....

    >...i said it a few times before....that I wasnt sold on the fact that he was gonna be gone. I had a feeling that he would stay...although I admit I was in the minority.
    congratulations?
  • SportsAndLady
    Midstate01;1134461 wrote:Really? Lol.
    Lol for some reason I thought you were an Indians fan and saw he was starting opening day and thought he still played for the reds lol my bad

    Great news on votto if true
  • Midstate01
    SportsAndLady;1134590 wrote:Lol for some reason I thought you were an Indians fan and saw he was starting opening day and thought he still played for the reds lol my bad

    Great news on votto if true

    Lol it's cool. It made me laugh.

    And fuck the Indians.
  • chicago510
    10/$225 mil for Votto?! Wow color me surprised they got that done. Momentum of a trade obviously faded lol?
  • IggyPride00
    That is a massive deal for Votto. No home town discount at all, as the Reds paid full market price and more.

    While he is a great player, I don't think he is ever going to be more than a 30/100 guy on average (some years better than others) and that is just a lot of money for a guy who isn't a 40/130 guy like a Pujols/Arod/Fielder were in their monster years.

    This is the 4th largest deal in MLB history, with only Arod/Pujols ever getting more (A-rod twice).

    I applaud the Reds for having a brass pair like that to pay the guy, but I just think he could have been had for about $30-40 million less since so many teams have already tied up their first baseman for similar deals. Outside of the Cubs, I am not sure who else would have been able to pay him for than 160-170 million since the big markets were all set for the next decade at the position.
  • dave
    Holy shit!

    Lets hope this one turns out better than the Griffey deal. I really hope they get off to a fast start and the fans fill up the stadium by late May. Then maybe they can resign BP.
  • justincredible
    dave;1134794 wrote:Holy shit!

    Lets hope this one turns out better than the Griffey deal. I really hope they get off to a fast start and the fans fill up the stadium by late May. Then maybe they can resign BP.
    I don't worry about Votto's career taking the Griffey path. Griffey's knees were pretty much shot after a decade of playing on the turf in Seattle and he also wasn't big on conditioning. Votto is playing at a low impact position, has the body type to sustain a long career, and has an unbelievable work ethic.
  • justincredible
    IggyPride00;1134785 wrote:That is a massive deal for Votto. No home town discount at all, as the Reds paid full market price and more.

    While he is a great player, I don't think he is ever going to be more than a 30/100 guy on average (some years better than others) and that is just a lot of money for a guy who isn't a 40/130 guy like a Pujols/Arod/Fielder were in their monster years.

    This is the 4th largest deal in MLB history, with only Arod/Pujols ever getting more (A-rod twice).

    I applaud the Reds for having a brass pair like that to pay the guy, but I just think he could have been had for about $30-40 million less since so many teams have already tied up their first baseman for similar deals. Outside of the Cubs, I am not sure who else would have been able to pay him for than 160-170 million since the big markets were all set for the next decade at the position.
    Toronto would've thrown a blank cheque at him.
  • karen lotz
    justincredible;1134867 wrote:Toronto would've thrown a blank cheque at him.

    eh.
  • Jawbreaker
    justincredible;1134867 wrote:Toronto would've thrown a blank cheque at him.
    So would the Dodgers. He was going to get 200+ from someone.

    I would currently take Votto over Arod, Pujols, and Fielder and their respective current contracts. It was a move the Reds had to make.