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Random NBA Chatter - Season long thread

  • hoops23
    Skyhook79;1051832 wrote:Yeah I think I heard Austin Carr say something about Kobe and not resting enough once or maybe it was a 100 times during the game.
    lol, yeah he was definitely stressing that point...
  • robj55
    Skyhook79;1051833 wrote:Well if he doesn't make players better he must have won those 2 Championships by himself.
    Basketball is a team game, not individual. Kobe didn't win 2 championships back to back, the Lakers did. This help?
  • Skyhook79
    robj55;1051839 wrote:Basketball is a team game, not individual. Kobe didn't win 2 championships back to back, the Lakers did. This help?
    So which is it does he make players better or not?
  • karen lotz
    Skyhook79;1051842 wrote:So which is it does he make players better or not?

    SHAQ made Kobe
  • robj55
    Skyhook79;1051842 wrote:So which is it does he make players better or not?
    Of course he does, he's one of the best players in the world. My point is he is not a great play maker for his teammates, rather a volume shooter who helps the team more through scoring. People need to get off this,"he won a championship" crap, anyone who has played the game knows that basketball is a team sport and requires 4 others to be successful.
  • Skyhook79
    karen lotz;1051844 wrote:SHAQ made Kobe
    Pretty sure Joe Bean Bryant did. But I forget how many rings did Shaq have before Kobe came to the Lakers?
  • Skyhook79
    robj55;1051846 wrote:Of course he does, he's one of the best players in the world. My point is he is not a great play maker for his teammates, rather a volume shooter who helps the team more through scoring. People need to get off this,"he won a championship" crap, anyone who has played the game knows that basketball is a team sport and requires 4 others to be successful.
    How many times did Kobe lead his team in assists for the season in his 16 years with Lakers?
  • Footwedge
    Well it's pretty clear that the Heat blows this year.

    In James' second to last year with the Cavs, the team never lost 3 in a row...not even in the playoffs.
  • robj55
    Skyhook79;1051849 wrote:How many times did Kobe lead his team in assists for the season in his 16 years with Lakers?
    He should lead them every year in assists, he has the damn ball in his hand 90% of the game. Doesn't make him a great passer or play maker. Similar to AI, never a great or willing passer but when you have the ball in your hands the whole game you are going to get assists.
  • Skyhook79
    robj55;1051853 wrote:He should lead them every year in assists, he has the damn ball in his hand 90% of the game. Doesn't make him a great passer or play maker. Similar to AI, never a great or willing passer but when you have the ball in your hands the whole game you are going to get assists.
    No he doesn't not even close to that. No one in the triangle has the ball that much.
  • robj55
    Skyhook79;1051856 wrote:No he doesn't not even close to that. No one in the triangle has the ball that much.
    He has the ball in his hands more than anyone on the team, and he is not a great passer or playmaker. But that's okay because he's a great shot maker.
  • BR1986FB
    Footwedge;1051852 wrote:Well it's pretty clear that the Heat blows this year.

    In James' second to last year with the Cavs, the team never lost 3 in a row...not even in the playoffs.
    Think that has a lot to do with Wade being in and out of the lineup. He's the leader of that team. Heard he's had plantar fasciitis. That shit lingers and doesn't really go away. Trust me, I know. It's excrutiating on your feet. All I do is train with weights and do some cardio. Can't imagine how brutal it would be on a NBA player.

    If they have to rely on #6 to be their "leader" down the stretch, they are screwed because we all know he follows, not leads.
  • wes_mantooth
    Didn't watch any of the game last night, but it is nice to see the Cavs hang in there with the Lakers...on the road. I mean, I think the Lakers are probably not title contenders anymore, but still a pretty decent team...so that is a good showing for the Cavs.
  • KR1245
    wes_mantooth;1051910 wrote:Didn't watch any of the game last night, but it is nice to see the Cavs hang in there with the Lakers...on the road. I mean, I think the Lakers are probably not title contenders anymore, but still a pretty decent team...so that is a good showing for the Cavs.
    Yeah. It looked like it was going to be a blowout in the 1st half but the Cavs did a good job getting back into it. As long as Kyrie and TT play good games I'm happy
  • Skyhook79
    wes_mantooth;1051910 wrote:Didn't watch any of the game last night, but it is nice to see the Cavs hang in there with the Lakers...on the road. I mean, I think the Lakers are probably not title contenders anymore, but still a pretty decent team...so that is a good showing for the Cavs.
    I was impressed with Irving he can play, not sold on Thomas yet, but why does he not get more minutes? The Lakers are a contender, I think they will finish with a 2-3 seed but they have to get much better/consistent bench play.
  • gport_tennis
    Skyhook79;1051923 wrote:I was impressed with Irving he can play, not sold on Thomas yet, but why does he not get more minutes? The Lakers are a contender, I think they will finish with a 2-3 seed but they have to get much better/consistent bench play.

    The lakers are not a top 4 team right now, therefore I dont think they are a true contender, they need an upgrade at the pg for me to consider them a contender
  • Skyhook79
    gport_tennis;1051926 wrote:The lakers are not a top 4 team right now, therefore I dont think they are a true contender, they need an upgrade at the pg for me to consider them a contender
    They are the 2 seed right now.
  • sportswizuhrd
    Skyhook79;1051930 wrote:They are the 2 seed right now.
    6th best record in the league might be what he meant. If so, IMO, you have to move them past Philly, I don't see the Sixers staying at the top for the whole season(maybe division title yes, but not top 5 in the league). Same with the Pacers.
  • Laley23
    sportswizuhrd;1052047 wrote:6th best record in the league might be what he meant. If so, IMO, you have to move them past Philly, I don't see the Sixers staying at the top for the whole season(maybe division title yes, but not top 5 in the league). Same with the Pacers.
    Agree with Sixers. Disagree with Pacers. But I dont think either are built for the playoffs.
  • Mulva
    I could see the Sixers and Pacers both hanging up there. Depth is huge this season with all of the back-to-backs and stuff, and they're 2 of the more balanced teams around.
  • gport_tennis
    Skyhook79;1051930 wrote:They are the 2 seed right now.

    The season is still way early to talk about playoff seeding, but they have the 5th best record over all so far. I like the bulls, heat, thunder, nuggets, blazers better right now. I just don't see them winning a title this year without a better point guard.

    If they upgrade their pg situation they would for sure be a contender and maybe the favorite
  • Skyhook79
    gport_tennis;1052188 wrote:The season is still way early to talk about playoff seeding, but they have the 5th best record over all so far. I like the bulls, heat, thunder, nuggets, blazers better right now. I just don't see them winning a title this year without a better point guard.

    If they upgrade their pg situation they would for sure be a contender and maybe the favorite
    They haven't upgraded the PG position since Magic Johnson left and that was 5 Titles ago. They need more help from the bench to win the Title this year.
  • robj55
    Skyhook79;1052663 wrote:They haven't upgraded the PG position since Magic Johnson left and that was 5 Titles ago. They need more help from the bench to win the Title this year.
    the triangle has hid Fisher for years
  • gport_tennis
    Skyhook79;1052663 wrote:They haven't upgraded the PG position since Magic Johnson left and that was 5 Titles ago. They need more help from the bench to win the Title this year.

    I'm not talking last year(which by the way they did not win the title last year), I'm talking aBout this year. This year they will not win the title with fisher and Blake running the point. I'm not a lakers hater, kobe is my favorite player.
  • Skyhook79
    gport_tennis;1052727 wrote:I'm not talking last year(which by the way they did not win the title last year), I'm talking aBout this year. This year they will not win the title with fisher and Blake running the point. I'm not a lakers hater, kobe is my favorite player.
    They didn't have a good pg in 2009 or 2010 and they won the Title both times.