Cleveland Cavaliers 11-12 season thread
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dazedconfusedhopefully jamison keeps this up for like 2 weeks so we can get something for him and open up the spot for tristan. sessions and gibson can also play their way off the team
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EricSportsAndLady;1017052 wrote:It was probably one of those things wehre he was just comparing their type of skills, not their skills themselves.
Well guys i agree with you and it is all about skills and the skills come through the a lot of practice so it makes a man perfect. -
Rotinaj
Wiser words have never been spoken. Thank you.Eric;1082813 wrote:Well guys i agree with you and it is all about skills and the skills come through the a lot of practice so it makes a man perfect. -
SportsAndLadyEric;1082813 wrote:Well guys i agree with you and it is all about skills and the skills come through the a lot of practice so it makes a man perfect.
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Commander of Awesome
Spot on analysis.hoops23;1082682 wrote: Jennings is not elite. He's very good, but wow. He's very out of control and is a jacker. I assumed he took so many shots because the team sucks, but he doesn't really look for anyone else. He comes down 5 seconds into the shot clock and throws up junk. -
slingshot4everI dont think I would call it a "perfect loss". Nothing perfect about this....
http://tracking.si.com/2012/02/11/report-cavs-c-anderson-varejao-has-fractured-wrist/?sct=hp_t2_a12&eref=sihp -
KR1245
Really sucks but the good news is that he could return by the deadline.slingshot4ever;1083032 wrote:I dont think I would call it a "perfect loss". Nothing perfect about this....
http://tracking.si.com/2012/02/11/report-cavs-c-anderson-varejao-has-fractured-wrist/?sct=hp_t2_a12&eref=sihp
Cavs are going to drop some games with Andy being out, maybe the FO will begin shopping Tawn and Ramon -
FootwedgeMcCloud and AC said "x-rays were negative" last night. What's up with that?
This plain ole sux. I loved watching that dude play. Best dirty work player in the league. -
KR1245
Yep. I cringe at the thought of having to watch more Ryan HollinsFootwedge;1083048 wrote:McCloud and AC said "x-rays were negative" last night. What's up with that?
This plain ole sux. I loved watching that dude play. Best dirty work player in the league. -
grodt
They didn't find the fracture until they did an MRI.Footwedge;1083048 wrote:McCloud and AC said "x-rays were negative" last night. What's up with that?
This plain ole sux. I loved watching that dude play. Best dirty work player in the league. -
MulvaThis is more like how I would expect this team to play without Kyrie and Varejao. There's a good chance that at least 4 of the top 5 players on the court at any given time are going to be on Philly.
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dave
You are giving the Cavs too much credit.Mulva;1083269 wrote:This is more like how I would expect this team to play without Kyrie and Varejao. There's a good chance that at least 4 of the top 5 players on the court at any given time are going to be on Philly.
I can't watch these guys without AV and Kyrie. -
grodtWithout Kyrie and Andy this is pretty much the team that was so awful last season.
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Commander of AwesomeAbout the Cavaliers ...
1. Can Ben Uzoh play? Who knows? But the Cavs have a goal each year to find someone from the NBA Development League who can become a role player. Last year, that guy was Alonzo Gee, and he may become much more than that. The Cavs wisely believe there are players in the D-League who can be assets, you just have to find the right ones and put them in the right roles.
2. Ten-day contracts are a way to conduct these tryouts. Uzoh played 42 games with New Jersey last season, averaging 3.8 points and shooting 42 percent from the field. Underwhelming. But the Cavs know Gee struggled in his first tryouts with Washington and San Antonio. It's not easy for an undrafted free agent to immediately stick in the NBA.
3. The Cavs sent two scouts to the D-League to find backcourt help, especially a physical athlete who can play some point. They found the 6-3, 210-pound Uzoh, who had played only five games in the D-League, scoring 21 points, shooting 57 percent and averaging 7.6 rebounds and 5.0 assists. He rarely made turnovers. He was a four-year starter and 15-point scorer as a senior at Tulsa.
4. The Cavs are looking for backcourt help, because several teams are calling about point guard Ramon Sessions. The Lakers seem to have a real interest, and they have two first-rounders (their own and one from Dallas). So they can trade a first-rounder, and even take Sessions back on their $8.3 million trade exception -- without forcing the Cavs to take a player back in return for salary-cap purposes.
5. The Lakers are one of several teams waiting on Dwight Howard, as most in the NBA expect him to be traded by March 15. They may need one (or both) of those first-rounders to make a deal for Howard.
6. If Christian Eyenga could master some basketball skills, the door is wide open for him to grab minutes at small forward. Eyenga is wildly athletic, but it's hard to know if he'll ever be able to survive in the league. He recently completed nine games at Canton in the D-League, and averaged 8.9 points in 24 minutes per game. He shot only 40 percent, was 1-of-11 on 3-pointers and only went to the foul line 17 times (making 11).
7. Compare that to Manny Harris, who is averaging 18.6 points and 7.4 rebounds in Canton. He's shooting 44 percent from the field, and the Cavs may bring him up if they need a shooting guard. They went with Uzoh rather than Harris because their scouts had Uzoh's point guard skills rated higher. -
Commander of Awesome[h=1]Cleveland Cavaliers' issues at center could be golden opportunity for Tristan Thompson[/h] [h=5]Published: Sunday, February 12, 2012, 8:12 PM Updated: Sunday, February 12, 2012, 10:37 PM[/h] By Tom Reed, The Plain Dealer
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John Kuntz, The Plain DealerTristan Thompson (battling Charlotte's Corey Maggette) has averaged 18 minutes per game this season, producing 5.3 rebounds and 1.2 blocked shots per game as a rookie for the Cavaliers.
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- As the shock of losing Anderson Varejao to a fractured wrist subsides, Cavaliers coach Byron Scott must fill the minutes and void left by his absence.
It won't be easy or accomplished by one player. In Semih Erden, Ryan Hollins and Samardo Samuels, the coach has three centers from which to choose and none which he trusts. Each has played his way out of the rotation at some point.
On a club receiving decent bench contributions, the backup center has been a nettlesome position for Scott. Now, one of those three must assume a starter's role for the immediate future.
There is another option, of course. Scott isn't ready to fold rookie Tristan Thompson into the starting lineup, which is understandable given his lack of experience. But the 6-9, 227-pound Texas product ultimately should become the biggest benefactor of an unfortunate circumstance.
The No. 4 overall pick in the draft, Thompson has the most upside of any Cavaliers' big man. He also has most to prove. He's probably going the get that opportunity over the final 40 games -- whether he plays center or his natural position of power forward. His minutes figure to increase as he recovers from a sprained ankle.
In his return to the lineup, Thompson played 28 minutes and much of the second half and overtime in place of Varejao on Friday against Milwaukee. He finished with 13 rebounds, three blocked shots and five points. Thompson wasn't nearly as effective on Saturday, missing all six of his shots against Philadelphia, but he still managed to grab eight rebounds in 18 minutes.
"I want to keep him coming off the bench for right now," Scott said. "That was his first game back ... and he did pretty good. But he missed a while and I want him to get a few more practices in and get his timing back."
Thompson, who will play in the Rising Stars Challenge as part of the NBA All-Star Weekend, shows real promise as a weak-side defender, shot blocker and rebounder. He is long, athletic, active, and in a league which has few true centers he can play the position despite giving up 20 or 30 pounds to opponents. Varejao is, after all, a converted power forward as well.
Among rookies, Thompson ranks first in rebounds (5.3) and second in blocks (1.2).
"I pride myself on defense," he said. "Guarding a [power forward] orit's probably not that much difference."
It's on the offensive end where Thompson remains as raw as an April wind whipping through Progressive Field. His jump shot and foul shooting need work. He rarely passes the ball once in scoring position regardless of the defenders around him. It's one reason he has just three assists in 360 minutes.
"I told him the one thing he has to do a better job of [is] when he offensive rebounds the ball, if he can't go right back up and dunk it, he has to bring it out," Scott said. "Three things can happen and two of them aren't very good. Being a young player, I think he'll learn that."
With Antawn Jamison as one of the team's few scoring options and Varejao enjoying an All-Star caliber season, there were only so many minutes for Thompson to develop. But his playing time and his comfortable level in the offense figure to increase. He has good hands and can use both to finish around the basket.
The Cavaliers know what they have in Erden, Hollins and Samuels. There's still much to discover about Thompson, whose game, at least among the reserves, most resembles Varejao's.
Injuries afford opportunity. Thompson is about to get his.
Dribbles: Erden is expected to start against Indiana on Wednesday. ... The Cavaliers did not practice on Sunday. -
gerb131Too lazy to look but how bout Jamison for OJ Mayo?
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sportswizuhrd
realgm trade checker says no. Only combination that didn't get rejected due to trade restrictions was Mayo and Sam Young but that doesn't work out financially.gerb131;1085099 wrote:Too lazy to look but how bout Jamison for OJ Mayo? -
sportswizuhrd
What do we do here? Trade Sessions so D12 doesn't go to the Lakers and Bynum(presumably)doesn't go to Orlando.....but Howard still could go to New Jersey and team up with Deron Williams for another super team for the next few years...or just find a new taker for Sessions?Commander of Awesome;1084456 wrote:About the Cavaliers ...
4. The Cavs are looking for backcourt help, because several teams are calling about point guard Ramon Sessions. The Lakers seem to have a real interest, and they have two first-rounders (their own and one from Dallas). So they can trade a first-rounder, and even take Sessions back on their $8.3 million trade exception -- without forcing the Cavs to take a player back in return for salary-cap purposes.
5. The Lakers are one of several teams waiting on Dwight Howard, as most in the NBA expect him to be traded by March 15. They may need one (or both) of those first-rounders to make a deal for Howard. -
slingshot4everCavs looking really good against the Pscers tonight.
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hoops23Cavs looking really good. Kyrie is just a beast.
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hoops23Jamison really pisses me off.
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hoops23Oh my god Gee.
I like this dude a lot.
Semih Erden had some nice post work tonight. finished with 18, but really displayed patience in the paint and an array of moves. -
Skyhook79Good to see the Cavs get a good win even though the 12000 fans there probally were hoping for a loss like "some" of the posters here.
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Midstate01Skyhook79;1087238 wrote:Good to see the Cavs get a good win even though the 12000 fans there probally were hoping for a loss like "some" of the posters here.
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like_that
k.Skyhook79;1087238 wrote:Just being a trolling douche bag per usual. Not adding to the convo. I love god.