Detroit @ Indians Series Thread

• Glory Days

  

  hoops23;885556 wrote:Fuk/Brantley/Choo and Carrera as utility OF/spot starter.
  
  Santana to 1B, mainly because we're stuck with Hafner.
  
  I look to trade LaPorta for something. Give Lou some extended time at C, and perhaps look for a 3B. I don't know if Lonnie can play 1B, but the 1B FA class is WEAK outside of the big names (which we're not getting). I'd move Lonnie to 1B and look to either trade for or sign a 3B.
  
  I think Druby and Kipnis are a solid nucleus up the middle.

  Hannahan has been playing a little 1B lately it looks like. I like him and can see him there if there isnt a good 1B out there to be had. I'd keep Chisenhall as a back up 3B still if we can get one through FA or trade. Hannahan has a better glove, so i would like to keep him in the field.
  
  Whats Thome's deal for next year? he retiring or gonna want to stick it out for one more go around?
• HitsRus

  

  As for Grady, I've heard rumors that the Tribe would decline his option, but rework a new deal for less money, but offer him the chance to make up the cash based on performance bonuses.

  I think this is the scenario that makes the most sense. No one is going to give Sizemore $9 million + at this point. But if they decline the option, he is a free agent.
• Con_Alma

  This team's number one weakness at the beginning of the season was depth. That has hurt them. The second issue coming in was offense and specifically a right-handed stick. The pitching was above average coming into the season.
  
  This team has overall had an above average year mostly because of the good start which was a result of some very timely/lucky situational hitting.
• BR1986FB

  Tribe up 4-2 in the 4th as Shelley Duncan is in full out beast mode with TWO 2R Jacks off Verlander...
• Laley23

  

  Im not saying he is the answer. But Shelly Duncan really should have gotten steady PT this season. Even at .250 its exactly what we needed. Someone who may have belted 25 HRs from the right side. Now,
• BR1986FB

  Masterson escapes a bases loaded jam by getting V-Mart with two out in the 5th. Tribe coming to bat up 4-2...
• BR1986FB

  4-3 Tribe top of the 7th...bases loaded, nobody out with V-Mart at the plate. This won't end well...
• ts1227

  

  Lets be fair, it's 4-3 Shelly Duncan. The rest of them still suck and don't need the credit on this one, lol
• Glory Days

  

  baaaaaaaahahahahahaahhahaah the bullpen throws what like two pitches between Smith and Sipp and give up 5 runs.
• dazedconfused

  

  victor martinez has sure been a bastard this series
• Glory Days

  

  Just turned the game on a few minutes ago. Trevor Crowe is back? unfortunately its too late.
• Laley23

  

  Glory Days;886366 wrote:Just turned the game on a few minutes ago. Trevor Crowe is back? Thats unfortunate.

  FIFY. I hate Trevor Crowe.
• BR1986FB

  Chiz !
• BRF

  

  ts1227;886357 wrote:Lets be fair, it's 4-3 Shelly Duncan.

  That's my boy!
• vball10set

  Laley23;886297 wrote:Im not saying he is the answer. But Shelly Duncan really should have gotten steady PT this season. Even at .250 its exactly what we needed. Someone who may have belted 25 HRs from the right side. Now,

  plus, from what I understand, he's a great clubhouse guy, he's always busting his ass, and he STAYS HEALTHY!!!!
• BRF

  

  vball10set;886493 wrote:plus, from what I understand, he's a great clubhouse guy, he's always busting his ass, and he STAYS HEALTHY!!!!

  Add this to what you quoted Laley on and you have thoughts expressed by me months ago. All that is why he's my favorite Indian who should have NEVER been sent down, let alone three or four times. SMH! Today's game was more insult to injury, too.
• wes_mantooth

  

  Great couple of weeks by the tribe. I need to get in on those playoff ticket preorder they are advertising
• vball10set

  BRF;886505 wrote:Add this to what you quoted Laley on and you have thoughts expressed by me months ago. All that is why he's my favorite Indian who should have NEVER been sent down, let alone three or four times. SMH! Today's game was more insult to injury, too.

  :thumbup:
• OQB

  

  Duncan is really putting some stock in his name, I would like to see him as a utility guy next year. He can play first base too!
• OQB

  

  BRF, I was on the Duncan train as well way back when.
• BRF

  

  I firmly believe that the reason Duncan got yo-yo'ed back and forth from Columbus was because of the insistance of carrying some dead weight on the roster by the name of Kearns.
• OQB

  

  I think if Duncan keeps these numbers for the rest of the year, they will keep him and Santana to play 1b.
• royal_k

  

  Shelly has been the only bright spot this past week. He's has two games with two HRs this week.
• OQB

  

  Here is a list of the 2012 free agents from MLBtraderumors.com
  
  Updated 9-5-11
  Catchers
  Rod Barajas (36)
  Josh Bard (34)
  Henry Blanco (40)
  Ramon Castro (36)
  Ryan Doumit (31) - $7.25MM club option for 2012, $8.25MM club option for '13 with a $500K buyout
  Ramon Hernandez (36)
  Jason Kendall (38)
  Gerald Laird (32)
  Jose Molina (36)
  Yadier Molina (29) - $7MM club option with a $750K buyout
  Dioner Navarro (28)
  Ivan Rodriguez (40)
  Brian Schneider (35)
  Kelly Shoppach (29) - $3.2MM club option with a $300K buyout
  Chris Snyder (31) - $6.75MM club option with a $750K buyout
  Matt Treanor (36)
  Jason Varitek (40)
  First basemen
  Lance Berkman (36)
  Russell Branyan (36)
  Jorge Cantu (30)
  Michael Cuddyer (33)
  Prince Fielder (28)
  Ross Gload (36)
  Brad Hawpe (33)
  Eric Hinske (34) - $1.5MM club option with a $100K buyout
  Casey Kotchman (29)
  Mark Kotsay (36)
  Derrek Lee (36)
  Xavier Nady (33)
  Lyle Overbay (35)
  Carlos Pena (34)
  Wily Mo Pena (30)
  Albert Pujols (32)
  Second basemen
  Alfredo Amezaga (34)
  Clint Barmes (33)
  Willie Bloomquist (34) - $1.1MM mutual option with a $150K buyout
  Orlando Cabrera (37)
  Robinson Cano (29) - $14MM club option with a $2MM buyout
  Jamey Carroll (37)
  Alex Cora (36)
  Craig Counsell (41)
  Mark Ellis (35)
  Jerry Hairston Jr. (36)
  Bill Hall (32) - $4MM mutual option with a $250K buyout
  Aaron Hill (30) - $8MM club option for 2012 and $8MM club option for '13
  Omar Infante (30)
  Kelly Johnson (30)
  Adam Kennedy (36)
  Felipe Lopez (32)
  Jose Lopez (28)
  Aaron Miles (35)
  Brandon Phillips (31) - $12MM club option with a $1MM buyout
  Shortstops
  Clint Barmes (33)
  Yuniesky Betancourt (30) - $6MM club option with a $2MM buyout
  Orlando Cabrera (37)
  Jamey Carroll (37)
  Ronny Cedeno (29) - $3MM club option with a $200K buyout
  Craig Counsell (41)
  Rafael Furcal (34) - $12MM club option with a $1.3MM buyout
  Alex Gonzalez (34)
  Jerry Hairston Jr. (36)
  Omar Infante (30)
  Cesar Izturis (32)
  John McDonald (37)
  Nick Punto (34)
  Edgar Renteria (35)
  Jose Reyes (29)
  Jimmy Rollins (33)
  Ramon Santiago (32)
  Marco Scutaro (36) - $6MM club option/$3MM player option with a $1.5MM buyout
  Miguel Tejada (38)
  Jack Wilson (34)
  Third basemen
  Wilson Betemit (30)
  Casey Blake (38) - $6MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
  Jorge Cantu (30)
  Eric Chavez (34)
  Craig Counsell (41)Mark DeRosa (37)
  Greg Dobbs (33)
  Edwin Encarnacion (29) - $3.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
  Jerry Hairston Jr. (36)
  Omar Infante (30)
  Felipe Lopez (32)
  Jose Lopez (28)
  Nick Punto (34)
  Aramis Ramirez (34) - $16MM club option with a $2MM buyout; Ramirez can void
  Miguel Tejada (38)
  Omar Vizquel (45)
  Left fielders
  Pat Burrell (35)
  Johnny Damon (37)
  Mark DeRosa (37)
  Jonny Gomes (31)
  Carlos Guillen (36)
  Scott Hairston (32)
  Bill Hall (32) - $4MM mutual option with a $250K buyout
  Willie Harris (34)
  Eric Hinske (34) - $1.5MM club option with a $100K buyout
  Raul Ibanez (40)
  Conor Jackson (30)
  Reed Johnson (35)
  Ryan Ludwick (33)
  Jason Michaels (36)
  Laynce Nix (31)
  Juan Pierre (34)
  Scott Podsednik (36)
  Juan Rivera (33)
  Marcus Thames (35)
  Josh Willingham (33)
  Center fielders
  Rick Ankiel (32)
  Carlos Beltran (35)
  Willie Bloomquist (34) - $1.1MM mutual option with a $150K buyout
  Mike Cameron (39)
  Coco Crisp (32)
  David DeJesus (32)
  Scott Hairston (32)
  Andruw Jones (35)
  Nate McLouth (30) - $10.65MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
  Corey Patterson (32)
  Cody Ross (31)
  Grady Sizemore (29) - $8.5MM club option with a $500K buyout
  Right fielders
  Lance Berkman (36)
  Willie Bloomquist (34) - $1.1MM mutual option with a $150K buyout
  Milton Bradley (34)
  Michael Cuddyer (33)
  David DeJesus (32)
  J.D. Drew (36)
  Kosuke Fukudome (35)
  Willie Harris (34)
  Brad Hawpe (33)
  Jason Kubel (29)
  Ryan Ludwick (33)
  Xavier Nady (33)
  Magglio Ordonez (38)
  Cody Ross (31)
  Nick Swisher (31) - $10.25MM club option with a $1MM buyout
  Josh Willingham (33)
  Designated hitters
  Milton Bradley (34)
  Johnny Damon (37)
  Jason Giambi (41)
  Vladimir Guerrero (37)
  Carlos Guillen (36)
  David Ortiz (36)
  Jason Kubel (29)
  Hideki Matsui (38)
  Jorge Posada (40)
  Jim Thome (41)
  Starting pitchers
  Erik Bedard (33)
  Mark Buehrle (33)
  Chris Capuano (33)
  Chris Carpenter (37) - $15MM club option with a $1MM buyoutBruce Chen (35)
  Bartolo Colon (39)
  Aaron Cook (33) - $11MM mutual option with a $500K buyout
  Kyle Davies (28)
  Doug Davis (36)
  Ryan Dempster (35) - $14MM player option, no buyout
  Zach Duke (29) - $5.5MM club option with a $750K buyout
  Jeff Francis (30)
  Freddy Garcia (36)
  Jon Garland (32) - $8MM club option with a $500K buyout
  Aaron Harang (34) - $5MM mutual option with a $500K buyout
  Rich Harden (30)
  Livan Hernandez (37)
  Hisashi Iwakuma (31)
  Edwin Jackson (28)
  Kenshin Kawakami (37)
  Scott Kazmir (28) - $13.5MM club option with a $2.5MM buyout
  Hiroki Kuroda (37)
  Rodrigo Lopez (36)
  Paul Maholm (30) - $9.75MM club option with a $750K buyout
  Jason Marquis (33)
  Kevin Millwood (37)
  Sergio Mitre (31)
  Roy Oswalt (34) - $16MM mutual option with a $2MM buyout
  Brad Penny (34)
  Oliver Perez (30)
  Joel Pineiro (33)
  C.C. Sabathia (31) - may opt out of remaining four years, $92MM
  Javier Vazquez (35)
  Adam Wainwright (30) - $10MM vesting option for '12, $12MM for '13
  Tim Wakefield (45)
  Chien-Ming Wang (32)
  Brandon Webb (33)
  Dontrelle Willis (30)
  C.J. Wilson (31)
  Chris Young (33)
  Closers
  Heath Bell (34)
  Jonathan Broxton (28)
  Matt Capps (28)
  Francisco Cordero (37) - $12MM club option with a $1MM buyout
  Frank Francisco (32)
  Brad Lidge (35) - $12.5MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout
  Joe Nathan (37) - $12.5MM club option with a $2MM buyout
  Jonathan Papelbon (31)
  Jon Rauch (33) - $3.75MM club option with a $250K buyout
  Francisco Rodriguez (30)
  Rafael Soriano (32) - $11MM player option or a $1.5MM buyout
  Jose Valverde (34) - $9MM club option, no buyout
  Right-handed relievers
  Luis Ayala (34)
  Danys Baez (34)
  Miguel Batista (41)
  Shawn Camp (36)
  Todd Coffey (31)
  Juan Cruz (31)
  Octavio Dotel (38) - $3.75MM club option with a $750K buyout
  Chad Durbin (34)
  Kyle Farnsworth (36) - $3.3MM club option with a $650K buyout
  Jason Frasor (34) - $3.75MM club option
  LaTroy Hawkins (37)
  Aaron Heilman (33)
  Ryota Igarashi (33)
  Jason Isringhausen (39)
  Scott Linebrink (35)
  Mike MacDougal (35)
  Ryan Madson (31)
  Guillermo Mota (38)
  Ramon Ortiz (39)
  Micah Owings (29)
  Vicente Padilla (34)
  Joel Peralta (36)
  Chad Qualls (33) - $6MM club option with a $1.5MM buyout
  Jon Rauch (33) - $3.75MM club option with a $250K buyout
  Fernando Rodney (35)
  Takashi Saito (42)
  Yoshinori Tateyama (36) - $1MM club option
  Dan Wheeler (34) - $3MM club option with no buyout; vests with 65 appearances in 2011
  Kerry Wood (35)
  Jamey Wright (37)
  Michael Wuertz (33) - $3.25MM club option with a $250K buyout
  Joel Zumaya (27)
  Left-handed relievers
  Jeremy Affeldt (33) - $5MM club option with a $500K buyout
  Tim Byrdak (38)
  Mike Gonzalez (34)
  John Grabow (33)
  Javier Lopez (34)
  Damaso Marte (37) - $4MM club option with a $250K buyout
  Hideki Okajima (36) - can opt for free agency
  Darren Oliver (41)
  Arthur Rhodes (41) - $4MM club option with a $200K buyout; vests with 62 appearances
  J.C. Romero (36)
  George Sherrill (35)
  Brian Tallet (34)