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If you were the Cincinnati Reds GM, would you do this deal.

  • Ty Webb
    you send Travis Wood, Edinson Volquez and Yonder Alonso to Colorado

    You get Ubaldo Jimenez.

    That is the package that Jon Heyman said it may be to land Jimenez.
  • TigerNation10
    Simply put, yes.
  • justincredible
    Without a fucking doubt.
  • dave
    hell yeah but that's just a starting point. It's going to take more.
  • Ty Webb
    He also said that they may also be able to get a "top relief pitcher"
  • TigerNation10
    Ty Webb;833977 wrote:He also said that they may also be able to get a "top relief pitcher"
    Heath Bell?
  • Ty Webb
    That is the only name I could think of since they missed out on Rodriguez.
  • Midstate01
    I'll say it again. We need hitting!!!!!!!!!
  • dave
    Midstate01;834002 wrote:I'll say it again. We need hitting!!!!!!!!!

    Don't worry, former Card Ryan Ludwick is out there. If they can't get him they will go after John Mabry.
  • Midstate01
    dave;834005 wrote:Don't worry, former Card Ryan Ludwick is out there. If they can't get him they will go after John Mabry.

    No thanks!!
  • ernest_t_bass
    Ty, can I trade you to JJHuddle for some other people?
  • sleeper
    If I were the Reds GM, I'd find a job where I could compete for championships.
  • thavoice
    What is Jiminez contract look like?

    I am not ready to give up on EV yet. Wood is a dime a dozen type of pitcher, and Alonso is expendable with the roster the reds already have.

    I would lean towards yes if Jimenez is under contract for another two seasons.
  • karen lotz
    Signed thru 2012 with club options for 2013 and 2014.
  • thavoice
    Very tempting. I guess this all comes down to what the reds internally think of Volquez and if he can return to glory.

    Thing is...he has had one very good half of a season. Got tanked in the AS game, and has been bad since.

    I am thinking I would do it but would have to research Jiminez a bit more
  • se-alum
    karen lotz;834153 wrote:Signed thru 2012 with club options for 2013 and 2014.

    And pretty cheap.
    thavoice;834157 wrote:Very tempting. I guess this all comes down to what the reds internally think of Volquez and if he can return to glory.

    Thing is...he has had one very good half of a season. Got tanked in the AS game, and has been bad since.

    I am thinking I would do it but would have to research Jiminez a bit more
    I would definitely trade Volquez for Jimenez. Jimenez is a solid sub-4 era guy. He's not really an Ace, but would be very nice to have behind Cueto. A rotation of:

    Cueto
    Jimenez
    Leake
    Chapman
    Arroyo

    Can you imagine a 3 game series where you have to go from Jimenez to Leake to Chapman or Chapman to Arroyo to Cueto. That would be tough on a team.
  • thavoice
    I am hoping that Chapman gets into the rotation. I think he can be a randy johnson type of pitcher. I really do. I think they may want him as the closer, which I would not prefer. I think you can find a guy who can be a solid closer, but to find a starter who I think can dominate for quite awhile...I go with starter every time.
  • justincredible
    Chapman needs to start. Nick Masset can be the closer when CoCo leaves. If he figures out April he'd probably be the best closer in the game.
  • thavoice
    &^^ Agreed. I think Massett has the stuff to be a great closer, but sometimes guys just flat out cannot handle the pressure.

    I think he has nasty stuff...if he can just get that first batter out he faces! Would hate to see how many of his first batters get on.
  • justincredible
    First batter has a .273/.304/.341 line.
  • swamisez
    Would do it for two, not three. Price tag seems a little high. Agree with one who mentioned hitting being the problem not pitching. Whats Xavier Nady up to these days?
  • thavoice
    Ouch. That has to improve to be a starter though as many times when he comes in to save a game the tieing and winning runs will be in place.

    I knew it was pretty high, any site show what percentage of his inherited runners score and where he ranks?
  • justincredible
    thavoice;834240 wrote:Ouch. That has to improve to be a starter though as many times when he comes in to save a game the tieing and winning runs will be in place.

    I knew it was pretty high, any site show what percentage of his inherited runners score and where he ranks?

    You mean a closer?
  • thavoice
    my bad.
  • se-alum
    thavoice;834203 wrote:I am hoping that Chapman gets into the rotation. I think he can be a randy johnson type of pitcher. I really do. I think they may want him as the closer, which I would not prefer. I think you can find a guy who can be a solid closer, but to find a starter who I think can dominate for quite awhile...I go with starter every time.
    From all that I've read, Chapman is likely a starter next season. I don't think there has ever been serious talk about making him a closer, unless he shows that he can't hack it as a starter.