Larry or Dirk?

• said_aouita

  

  If you were to start a team, would you take Larry Bird or Dirk Nowitzki at their best?
• royal_k

  

  Bird, easily
• BR1986FB

  royal_k;778543 wrote:Bird, easily

  
  Not even a question for me but I'm biased because Bird is my all-time favorite.
• Skyhook79

  

  said_aouita;778538 wrote:If you were to start a team, would you take Larry Bird or Dirk Nowitzki at their best?

  
  SMH
• KR1245

  

  I dont know how anybody could make an arguement for Dirk
• riders1

  

  Bird, no contest!
• lhslep134

  

  KR1245;778554 wrote:I dont know how anybody could make an arguement for Dirk

  
  Because he's got the greatest skillset of any 7 footer in the history of the league.
  
  That being said, it's still Bird by quite a bit.
• KR1245

  

  lhslep134;778565 wrote:Because he's got the greatest skillset of any 7 footer in the history of the league.
  
  That being said, it's still Bird by quite a bit.

  
  Doesnt matter when you're comparing him to Larry Bird
• lhslep134

  

  KR1245;778583 wrote:Doesnt matter when you're comparing him to Larry Bird

  
  It absolutely DOES matter. A 7 footer that scores only 1.3 less points per game over a career than one of the all time greats and doing it without spending the majority of his time down in the paint is extremely impressive.
• KR1245

  

  lhslep134;778600 wrote:It absolutely DOES matter. A 7 footer that scores only 1.3 less points per game over a career than one of the all time greats and doing it without spending the majority of his time down in the paint is extremely impressive.

  
  I'm not saying it isnt impressive. What I am saying is that those numbers dont matter when you're comparing the guy to Larry Bird. My comment was that I dont think anybody could make an argument for picking Dirk. If you feel that you can, I would like to hear it.
• lhslep134

  

  KR1245;778621 wrote:My comment was that I dont think anybody could make an argument for picking Dirk

  
  
  I personally can't, but you asked the question of how someone can, and I provided that answer. If someone feels that what Dirk does at 7 feet tall is more impressive than what Bird did, then that's your answer.
  
  I don't believe it, but I don't feel it's unfathomable for some 14 year old who has never seen anything about Larry Bird to think that.
• Scrawney

  
• royal_k

  

  BR1986FB;778544 wrote:Not even a question for me but I'm biased because Bird is my all-time favorite.

  
  Probably mine as well.
• KR1245

  

  lhslep134;778633 wrote:I personally can't, but you asked the question of how someone can, and I provided that answer. If someone feels that what Dirk does at 7 feet tall is more impressive than what Bird did, then that's your answer.
  
  I don't believe it, but I don't feel it's unfathomable for some 14 year old who has never seen anything about Larry Bird to think that.

  
  14 years old? gimme a break
  
  You just go ahead and assume that somebody can make an argument that you cant
• End of Line

  

  Larry Bird w/o a doubt.
• like_that

  

  lol at anyone who voted Dirk.
• queencitybuckeye

  This isn't even close.
• Al Bundy

  Dirk is having a great series, but the answer to the question is Bird, and it isn't even close. Dirk has had several playoffs where he has disappeared. Bird did more against much better competition.
• Heretic

  

  Dirk's great and all and right now is probably playing as good as he ever has (definitely as good as he ever has in clutch playoff situations), but he's not on Bird's level.
• Laley23

  

  lhslep134;778565 wrote:Because he's got the greatest skillset of any 7 footer in the history of the league.

  And Larry has the greatest skill set of any 6-10 player in history. Whats 2 inches....?? Larry is a better rebounder, shooter, and passer. Imo, the second greatest player of all time. There is simply no argument.
  
  

  lhslep134;778600 wrote:It absolutely DOES matter. A 7 footer that scores only 1.3 less points per game over a career than one of the all time greats and doing it without spending the majority of his time down in the paint is extremely impressive.

  
  This sounds exactly like Larry, but the Hick did it better. Larry had post moves, but lets not go and call him a banger, despite being a PF.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Skyhook79;778547 wrote:SMH

  
  +1
• lhslep134

  

  Laley23;778700 wrote:And Larry has the greatest skill set of any 6-10 player in history. Whats 2 inches....?? Larry is a better rebounder, shooter, and passer. Imo, the second greatest player of all time. There is simply no argument.
  This sounds exactly like Larry, but the Hick did it better. Larry had post moves, but lets not go and call him a banger, despite being a PF.

  
  I'm not disagreeing. I said Bird is better. But KR couldn't fathom how someone could possibly say Dirk, and all I'm saying there are a lot of ignorant people out there who think newest is best and that's why some people could say Dirk.
  
  For the record, there's nothing more that irritates me when watching sports than listening to commentators throw around the word(s) "greatest, all time great, best I've seen" etc.
  
  I blame ESPN a lot for sensationalizing it, and I know SQ thinks I'm sensationalizing Dirk being top 5 right now but I don't think I am. ANYONE saying Dirk is better than Bird is sensationalizing IMO.
• SportsAndLady

  

  lhslep134;778774 wrote:But KR couldn't fathom how someone could possibly say Dirk, and all I'm saying there are a lot of ignorant people out there who think newest is best and that's why some people could say Dirk.

  
  This is absolutely AWFUL logic. KR is right, NO ONE has a legit argument to take Dirk over Bird...just because some 12 year old says Dirk because he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about, doesn't mean that is a legit argument. My little brother is 14 and says Lebron is better than MJ; he has no real arguments (because he's fucking 14), he just says Lebron. It doesn't make it a legit claim nor argument.
• like_that

  

  lhslep134;778774 wrote:I'm not disagreeing. I said Bird is better. But KR couldn't fathom how someone could possibly say Dirk, and all I'm saying there are a lot of ignorant people out there who think newest is best and that's why some people could say Dirk.
  

  
  No, he said he doesn't see how anyone can come up with an argument for Dirk. Being ignorant is not an argument.
• lhslep134

  

  like_that;778807 wrote:No, he said he doesn't see how anyone can come up with an argument for Dirk. Being ignorant is not an argument.

  
  Yeah you're right
  
  I guess I misinterpreted KR's post as someone arguing that Dirk is better with providing a sound argument.
  
  There is no sound argument for Dirk being better. Only misguided opinion