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Kobe named #1 player in the NBA

  • Trueblue23
    SN's Top 50 breakdown

    By team
    5: Lakers
    4: Celtics, Spurs
    3: Hawks, Nuggets, Rockets
    2: Cavaliers, Grizzlies, Jazz, Magic, Mavericks, Pistons, Raptors, 76ers, Suns
    1: Bulls, Bucks, Clippers, Heat, Hornets, Nets, Pacers, Thunder, Trail Blazers, Wizards
    0: Bobcats, Kings, Knicks, Timberwolves, Warriors

    By position
    Point guard: 11
    Shooting guard: 12
    Small forward: 11
    Power forward: 10
    Center: 6
    SN's TOP 50 PLAYERS
    1. Kobe Bryant, SG, Lakers
    2. LeBron James, SF, Cavaliers
    3. Dwyane Wade, SG, Heat
    4. Dwight Howard, C, Magic
    5. Tim Duncan, PF, Spurs
    6. Chris Paul, PG, Hornets
    7. Kevin Garnett, PF, Celtics
    8. Dirk Nowitzki, PF, Mavericks
    9. Carmelo Anthony, SF, Nuggets
    10. Paul Pierce, SF, Celtics
    11. Steve Nash, PG, Suns
    12. Deron Williams, PG, Jazz
    13. Tony Parker, PG, Spurs
    14. Brandon Roy, SG, Trail Blazers
    15. Yao Ming, C, Rockets
    16. Shaquille O'Neal, C, Cavaliers
    17. Pau Gasol, PF, Lakers
    18. Chris Bosh, PF, Raptors
    19. Amare Stoudemire, PF, Suns
    20. Chauncey Billups, PG, Nuggets
    21. Kevin Durant, SF, Thunder
    22. Manu Ginobili, SG, Spurs
    23. Jason Kidd, PG, Mavericks
    24. Tracy McGrady, SG, Rockets
    25. Joe Johnson, SG, Hawks
    26. Derrick Rose, PG, Bulls
    27. Ray Allen, SG, Celtics
    28. Gilbert Arenas, PG, Wizards
    29. Ron Artest, SF, Lakers
    30. Vince Carter, SG, Magic
    31. Danny Granger, SF, Pacers
    32. Baron Davis, PG, Clippers
    33. Devin Harris, PG, Nets
    34. Ben Gordon, SG, Pistons
    35. Al Horford, C, Hawks
    36. Carlos Boozer, PF, Jazz
    37. Nene, C, Nuggets
    38. Rajon Rondo, PG, Celtics
    39. Andre Iguodala, SG, 76ers
    40. Josh Smith, PF, Hawks
    41. Rudy Gay, SF, Grizzlies
    42. Hedo Turkoglu, SF, Raptors
    43. Lamar Odom, SF, Lakers
    44. Shane Battier, SF, Rockets
    45. Elton Brand, PF, 76ers
    46. Richard Jefferson, SF, Spurs
    47. O.J. Mayo, SG, Grizzlies
    48. Charlie Villanueva, PF, Pistons
    49. Michael Redd, SG, Bucks
    50. Andrew Bynum, C, Lakers

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    Rick Barry
    Elgin Baylor
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    Walt Bellamy
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    Otis Birdsong
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  • devil1197
    Lakers best team proven by dominance and NBA Finals 2009

    LeBron best player proven by dominance and MVP in 2009.

    Pretty simple if you ask me.
  • Trueblue23
    devil1197 wrote: Lakers best team proven by dominance and NBA Finals 2009

    LeBron best player proven by dominance and MVP in 2009.

    Pretty simple if you ask me.
    Okay so if we add your vote to those of the panel, Kobe only wins by a vote of 62-35 :)
  • wes_mantooth
    Don't agree, but Kobe has the rings, so I won't argue.
  • KnightXC1
    At this stage, Kobe is a better overall player than Lebron. Could very easily change in the near future but Kobe should be at the top right now.
  • royal_k
    The way I look at it is who would you build your team around if you were starting one.

    Pretty simple....Lebron
  • newarkcatholicfan
    I am quick to say James is a better player at the moment but Kobe has turned into a better “team player” and he is a leader who has led his team to the promised land and once there he and his team has won.
  • SportsAndLady
    You're a fucking moron if you actually think Lebron is anything but the #1 player in the world.
  • newarkcatholicfan
    SportsAndLadies wrote: You're a fucking moron if you actually think Lebron is anything but the #1 player in the world.
    To whom may I ask are you speaking too?
  • royal_k
    The only thing Kobe has on Lebron is a mid-range jump shot. Lebron is a better finisher at the rim, he is a better passer, rebounder, and he shoots the 3 as well.
  • 2quik4u
    this doesn't surprise me
  • SportsAndLady
    newarkcatholicfan wrote:
    SportsAndLadies wrote: You're a fucking moron if you actually think Lebron is anything but the #1 player in the world.
    To whom may I ask are you speaking too?
    Um to anyone who thinks Lebron isn't the best player in the world.
  • sleeper
    Lebron is #1
  • elbuckeye28
    So they don't know if and when Yao Ming will play, yet he is the 15th best player in the league? I like Shaq and glad he is on the Cavs, but the 16th best player currently? Seems like this is more of a career rating rather than a rating of a player's current ability.
  • sleeper
    elbuckeye28 wrote: So they don't know if and when Yao Ming will play, yet he is the 15th best player in the league? I like Shaq and glad he is on the Cavs, but the 16th best player currently? Seems like this is more of a career rating rather than a rating of a player's current ability.
    Very good point.

    And no Mo Williams? I think this list should be renamed, "50 most known players in the NBA" and its clearly more accurate.
  • hoops23
    lol, Mo Williams is better than several of those players...

    Also, Kobe a better TEAM player than LeBron? Wow. I can't even respond to something that is as foolish as that.
  • End of Line
    There's no way that Kobe is a better team player than LeBron. I had to laugh at that.
  • Bluepride13
    There is no doubt whatsoever who gets the other players involved more in a game. LeBron...not even close. Kobe and LeBron each go down as top 10 players in NBA history. If James gets a couple rings he will be near Jordon before its all said and done.
  • JakeGiant
    royal_k wrote: The way I look at it is who would you build your team around if you were starting one.

    Pretty simple....Lebron

    If one wants to win really bad, it'd be Kobe. Four rings and him putting the USA on his back during the critical moments of Gold Game against Spain tells me as such.

    Yep, I agree on better team player/leader as well.
  • gabuckeye
    I don't like the NBA, but watching Kobe in the Olympics would make me choose him, because he is a very clutch performer, and has proven that throughout his career. LeBron is not consistent enough yet in the crunch time to make me pick him as the number one player.
  • GOONx19
    Danny Granger out of the top 30 is ridiculous. He's better than Paul Pierce in points, rebounds, assists, and steals.

    Kevin Martin was averaging 31 points a game this year before he got injured. Not even on the list. Yao is.
  • Heretic
    elbuckeye28 wrote: So they don't know if and when Yao Ming will play, yet he is the 15th best player in the league? I like Shaq and glad he is on the Cavs, but the 16th best player currently? Seems like this is more of a career rating rather than a rating of a player's current ability.
    That's what I was thinking. When I saw the Cavs had two on the list, I figured Mo would be in the 30-40 ranking area. When I saw it was Shaq and he was in the top 20, I stopped taking this list seriously as a current ranking for players. Dude's a good complementary player, but not a superstar at this point of his career.
  • SQ_Crazies
    LeBron is #1.

    Two factors that get Kobe votes:

    1. Age--people are scared to say LeBron is #1 because he's 24, some people would say it's too early to say that.
    2. Rings--team awards that everyone judges individuals on.

    But whatever, my opinion is that LeBron is the better player. I could make a very strong argument for him as well but there is no point. Biggest thing is, the fact that there is a VERY strong argument to be made for him and that it's even discussed and he's 24 should tell you all you need to know.
  • SQ_Crazies
    gabuckeye wrote: I don't like the NBA, but watching Kobe in the Olympics would make me choose him, because he is a very clutch performer, and has proven that throughout his career. LeBron is not consistent enough yet in the crunch time to make me pick him as the number one player.
    For the last 2 or 3 years LeBron has led the league in scoring in "crunch time" (last 4 minutes of the game). I also read a stat somewhere about game winning or tying shots and the percentages...MJ was something like 27%, Kobe and LeBron were both between 25 and 26%.