Cincinnati Reds preseason talk

• justincredible

  

  karen lotz;661207 wrote:It is a lot of fun playing against a team full of douches that take it too seriously and beating them.

  
  Yeah, that's true.
• Ironman92

  

  I would like to see visible evidence during the season that the Reds are doing what they need to at the plate to give them a chance to win in the playoffs.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  SportsAndLady;661175 wrote:New Orleans with 500 OU students=fun
  Softball leagues with beer=not fun

  
  
  you are crazy, softball leagues are fun
• Rotinaj

  

  karen lotz;661207 wrote:It is a lot of fun playing against a team full of douches that take it too seriously and beating them.

  
  +1
• swamisez

  

  It will be fun prognosticating Dinglebaker's lineup. I'll give him a week to prove himself
  
  (Normal lineup)
  CF Stubbs
  SS Renteria/Janish
  1B Votto
  3B Rolen
  RF Bruce
  2B Phillips
  LF Gomes
  C Hernandez
  
  (Dusty wants speed at the top order)
  LF Lewis
  2B Phillips
  1B Votto
  3B Rolen
  RF Bruce
  SS Renteria
  C Hanigan
  CF Stubbs
  
  (Bruce in a slump lineup)
  Stubbs CF
  Bruce RF
  Votto 1B
  Rolen 3B
  Phillips 2B
  Renteria SS
  Gomes LF
  Hernandez C
  
  (Votto in a slump lineup)
  Yeah Right
• justincredible

  

  I'd go with this lineup:
  
  Stubbs
  Stubbs
  Votto
  Bruce
  Rolen
  Votto
  Phillips
  Pitcher
  Votto
• sherm03

  

  Justin,
  What season ticket package did you go with? I was thinking about dropping the coin for one of the packages with tax return money. But then I found out that I got fucked over again and actually have to pay again this year...so that went out the window.
• jordo212000

  

  I'd lean towards:
  
  Stubbs
  Phillips
  Votto
  Rolen
  Bruce
  Gomes/Heisey/Lewis
  Catcher
  Janish/Renteria
  Pitcher
• zach24oz

  The 2 different lineups I could see are:
  
  Stubbs
  Phillips
  Votto
  Rolen
  Bruce
  Gomes
  Janish/Renteria
  Hernandez/Hanigan
  
  2nd Lineup
  
  Phillips
  Janish/Renteria
  Votto
  Rolen
  Bruce
  Stubbs
  Lewis
  Hernandez/Hanigan
• justincredible

  

  sherm03;662049 wrote:Justin,
  What season ticket package did you go with? I was thinking about dropping the coin for one of the packages with tax return money. But then I found out that I got fucked over again and actually have to pay again this year...so that went out the window.

  
  We just did two seats in the bleachers on a 20 game package. I was going to do a 1 seat full season package in the bleachers but I talked myself out of it.
• jordo212000

  

  justincredible;662073 wrote:We just did two seats in the bleachers on a 20 game package. I was going to do a 1 seat full season package in the bleachers but I talked myself out of it.

  
  Man if I just lived within a halfway decent driving distance... Living close to Athens is just too far of a haul. I went to two games out at Great American Ballpark this season (+ 1 Reds game at the Jake). If I lived closer, I would definitely have some sort of season ticket package.
• SportsAndLady

  

  I don't care what my salary is, if I ever have a job in Cincinnati I am getting season tickets haha
• justincredible

  

  I live less than 5 miles away. It is indeed awesome to just decide last minute to drive down and go to a game.
• swamisez

  

  I live in NC and made it to three games last year.
  Strangely however, I got just about every game on my local fox sports affiliate. FSN Tennessee. I hope that continues again this year.
• mhs95_06

  jordo212000;662052 wrote:I'd lean towards:
  
  Stubbs
  Phillips
  Votto
  Rolen
  Bruce
  Gomes/Heisey/Lewis
  Catcher
  Janish/Renteria
  Pitcher

  
  I think this is about right. A key may be what line-up Dusty starts on the many occasions when Rolen doesn't start.
• Terry_Tate

  

  justincredible;662160 wrote:I live less than 5 miles away. It is indeed awesome to just decide last minute to drive down and go to a game.

  
  This is so true. I went to around 15 games last year and am looking to do at least 20 this year. It takes me around 10 minutes to get downtown and parked and I come right past downtown after work during the week so going to games is pretty easy for me. It also helps when your company has season tickets and the boss just hands you tickets when he can't go.
• dave

  opening day lineup
  
  Lewis
  Phillips
  Votto
  Rolen
  Bruce
  Stubbs
  Hanigan
  Janish
  Arroyo
  
  Who knows what will happen with C and SS, I'm assuming Hernandez and Renteria will play with Cueto and Volquez. Against lefties I think Stubbs moves to leadoff and Gomes bats 5th ahead of Bruce.
• TODD_PACKER

  I'd be surprised if Gomes has another good year meaning addressing another offensive need around mid-season. Hope not though.
• jordo212000

  

  TODD_PACKER;665506 wrote:I'd be surprised if Gomes has another good year meaning addressing another offensive need around mid-season. Hope not though.

  
  Gomes was very solid last year. I imagine his ABs will probably be down a decent amount (Lewis and Heisey will get some PT) but I expect Gomes to continue to be the main guy out there. I think a lot of people are thinking that it is still 2001 when LFs hit .280-.290 with 45+ HRs. Those days are over (cough cough steroids and greenies). Banned stuff aside, the amount of good outfielders in the game has really dropped off. Seems like most of the leagues talent resides in infield positions.
• Ironman92

  

  As long as there are many bad pitchers who miss over the middle of the plate......Gomes and many other Reds will be fine.
• dave

  OPS last year by guys who played a decent amount in LF and are on teams Reds are in competition with.
  
  Carlos Gonzalez .974
  Matt Holliday .922
  Pat Burrell .872
  Ryan Braun .866
  Alfonso Soriano .818
  Eric Hinske .793
  Raul Ibanez .793
  Jonny Gomes .758
  Carlos Lee .708
  
  Gomes was not very solid. He was a good value for his contract, but they need more out of him or his replacement.
• jordo212000

  

  dave;669038 wrote:OPS last year by guys who played a decent amount in LF and are on teams Reds are in competition with.
  
  Carlos Gonzalez .974
  Matt Holliday .922
  Pat Burrell .872
  Ryan Braun .866
  Alfonso Soriano .818
  Eric Hinske .793
  Raul Ibanez .793
  Jonny Gomes .758
  Carlos Lee .708
  
  Gomes was not very solid. He was a good value for his contract, but they need more out of him or his replacement.

  
  Maybe we should trade for Holliday, Ryan Braun, or Carlos Gonzalez? haha c'mon man. You posted the OPS for a few of the elite OFs in the game. Of course Gomes' numbers aren't going to be close to Matt Holliday's. You hit the nail on the head, for what they pay him, Gomes is pretty solid. Good guy to have in the clubhouse too.
• dave

  LF and 1B are the power positions in the NL, all I posted was the stats for left fielders for good NL teams. If the Reds want to pay Arroyo then they need better production from Gomes or whoever is out there. They can't expect the same production and health from Votto, Rolen, and Stubbs. Not bashing Gomes, I love the guy. Just don't think he's more than a platoon player who should rarely face RHP. Unfortunately he's pretty much a waste as a bench player since he can't play D and will probably strike out as a PH. He's a good DH though for interleague.
• Ironman92

  

  Reds had the high OPS LF guy...didn't work
• ts1227

  

  Arroyo has mono, but plans to pitch through it.
  
  http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2011/news/story?id=6260915