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• Heretic

  

  Automatik;645245 wrote:Do you ever notice that the majority of people calling Pittsburgh supporters "bandwagoners" are Cleveland fans? Ya'll need to just move on an accept the fact that there are Pittsburgh fans in Ohio and all over the country for that matter. Just accept....the whining is old makes you look like bitches.

  
  I find it more amusing than anything.
  
  Browns Backers groups all over the place = Awesome sign they're the greatest group of fans ever.
  Steeler fan groups all over the place = WTF!?!?? BANDWAGONING LOSERS!!!!
  
  It brings the lulz.
• thavoice

  THere is only one thing that explains all the brownsbackers.......Misery Loves Company
• SportsAndLady

  

  You won't find me accusing people of being a bandwagon fan, unless the circumstances are just outrageous. Just because there are Steelers fans in Ohio does not really mean anything..I mean people do move lol
  
  The ONLY issue I have with some Pittsburgh fans, is the Pirates. A lot of my friends act like the Pirates do not even exist, but there they are during football/hockey season supporting the Steelers and Pens, respectively.
  
  That is not a generalization, I just have no respect for a Pittsburgh fan who does not also like the Pirates.
• Automatik

  

  As a Pirate fan, it is very difficult to root for them with the way the club is managed. The ownership has completely abandoned any goal of putting together a winning team. Hell, I'd be happy with a somewhat competitive team. The way the Pirates situation is and baseball in general has actually turned me off of the sport.
• georgemc80

  I find it ridiculous that because:
  
  1. An uninformed cartographer in 1755 drew a line dividing PA and Ohio.
  2. My parents raised me 15 miles from said line
  
  I should be bound to only cheer for a team on my side of said line.
• Heretic

  

  I cheer* for the Pirates and keep tabs on all their minor league teams, too. I'm not overly vocal about them on message boards, though, because...well, if you look at last year, you'd basically get a stream of posts that would make me look like the Pirate fan version of the old Huddles "thedave".
  
  "Hey, Charlie Morton gave up 10 runs in two innings and spent most of his time on the mound looking like he was about ready to start crying!"
  
  "We were leading 3-0 through five innings. Then Maholm imploded and gave up seven in the sixth."
  
  "I just realized one of our corner outfielders is batting .250 with NO POWER!!!!"
  
  "Why do all our middle relievers have an ERA above 7?"
  
  "If someone murdered Ryan Doumit, would the city of Pittsburgh throw a mass celebration?"
  
  "Why do I have this horrible feeling of imminent doom? Oh yeah...it's the week leading into the trade deadline."
  
  "Hey, (insert name of obscure short-season A-ball player) is tearing it up. Maybe he'll be able to help out in a couple years...NO I'M NOT CRYING WHILE I TYPED THAT!!!!"
  
  *My definition of "cheer" = curse the existence of half the players on the team, the coaching staff, talent evaluators and most of all, ownership. While at the same time, operating under a delusion that at some magic point and time, they'll shock the world by being good.
• LJ

  

  SportsAndLady;645537 wrote:You won't find me accusing people of being a bandwagon fan, unless the circumstances are just outrageous. Just because there are Steelers fans in Ohio does not really mean anything..I mean people do move lol
  
  The ONLY issue I have with some Pittsburgh fans, is the Pirates. A lot of my friends act like the Pirates do not even exist, but there they are during football/hockey season supporting the Steelers and Pens, respectively.
  
  That is not a generalization, I just have no respect for a Pittsburgh fan who does not also like the Pirates.

  
  I don't care for Baseball or Hockey. I will partake in a Clippers or Jackets game every year, but only because they are here and it is something to do. But when people are like "oh yeah do you root for the Pirates" and I say "no" they are always like "AHA, You are a bandwagon fan!"
• thavoice

  The tired story of whom one person should root for...ho hum.
  
  Ya all do know many times it is rooted deap in your childhood with the teams ya like.
  
  For me.....Steelers.....neighbor friend who was older and I looked up to him as a kid so I liked the team he did. He probably liked them because they were winnig 4 of 6 SBs back then. (he since moved to cleveland and is a browns fan...what a bad decision.
  
  Reds...yeah..I dont like the pirates. My earlies childhood memory is of listening to Marty and Joe on WLW and going to a reds game a year. Hell...when I becaome a reds fan I prolly did not even know there was a pirates team!
  
  Pens...well...who else really?
  
  Hoosier basketball...growing up with 5 tv channels..a.nd 4 of them based in Ft Wayne Indiana they would carry every IU game....and sunday mornings my show was Bobby Knight SHow..........
  
  
  so...does not matter where one lives......most people fandom starts at a very young age.
  
  So..go ahead and root for the steelers......that is fine.......just think tho.....you rooting for them is the ultimate in jumping onto the bandwagon
• georgemc80

  I admit..I did jump on the Steeler bandwagon..........
  
  
  
  
  
  in 1979 at the age of 8.
• End of Line

  

  Automatik;645543 wrote:As a Pirate fan, it is very difficult to root for them with the way the club is managed. The ownership has completely abandoned any goal of putting together a winning team. Hell, I'd be happy with a somewhat competitive team. The way the Pirates situation is and baseball in general has actually turned me off of the sport.

  
  Bingo.
  
  People accuse me of being a Pittsburgh "bandwagoner", no. I started watching the Steelers as a kid with my grandfather along with the Pens. The Pirates on the other hand, I got into because of my dad. He was a huge Pirates fan and he grew up watching Clemente and Stargell. Now with me and watching the Pirates, they were actually ok when they had Brian Giles and Jason Kendall. Now they''re just terrible. Going back to what I originally said, when people accuse me of bandwagoning, I tell them, "You realize how hard it is to root for the one Pittsburgh team that hasn't been good?" They shut up after that.
• DaBrowns41

  LJ;645372 wrote:I don't understand how people can say this.... There were tons of Steeler fans in Ohio before 2005, especially Central, Eastern and SE Ohio.

  
  If there were "fans" they were in hiding, because you couldn't buy Pitt gear in Columbus, and you saw VERY few Pitt fans around. You either saw Bengals, Indians, Reds, or Browns. Not even Cavs stuff, very much.
  
  They won the Super Bowl, and I've seen stores taking down Bengals/Browns stuff to sell Pitt stuff, and now I can't go out into the public without seeing some idiot. Generally, any Pitt "fan" that I talk to when I'm out doesn't know shit about football, but claims to have "grown up in the great city of Pittsburgh", blah blah blah.
  
  I don't really care. It's not like it's going to change. The day that there are no bandwagon fans in the world is the day that Obama gets up off his lazy ass and becomes a reasonably decent president.
• DaBrowns41

  SportsAndLady;645537 wrote:You won't find me accusing people of being a bandwagon fan, unless the circumstances are just outrageous. Just because there are Steelers fans in Ohio does not really mean anything..I mean people do move lol
  
  The ONLY issue I have with some Pittsburgh fans, is the Pirates. A lot of my friends act like the Pirates do not even exist, but there they are during football/hockey season supporting the Steelers and Pens, respectively.
  
  That is not a generalization, I just have no respect for a Pittsburgh fan who does not also like the Pirates.

  
  So I can't root for the Cleveland Browns but dislike the Indians because of the fact that every time they get somebody decent on their team, they trade him away for a prospect?
  
  That's pretty stupid.
  
  The Pirates are even worse than the Indians. I wouldn't want to root for them either.
  
  And yes, people move. But did 1/4 of Pittsburgh's population move to Columbus, or Ohio? Doubtful.
• LJ

  

  DaBrowns41;645810 wrote:If there were "fans" they were in hiding, because you couldn't buy Pitt gear in Columbus, and you saw VERY few Pitt fans around. You either saw Bengals, Indians, Reds, or Browns. Not even Cavs stuff, very much.
  
  They won the Super Bowl, and I've seen stores taking down Bengals/Browns stuff to sell Pitt stuff, and now I can't go out into the public without seeing some idiot. Generally, any Pitt "fan" that I talk to when I'm out doesn't know shit about football, but claims to have "grown up in the great city of Pittsburgh", blah blah blah.
  
  I don't really care. It's not like it's going to change. The day that there are no bandwagon fans in the world is the day that Obama gets up off his lazy ass and becomes a reasonably decent president.

  
  Bullshit, I bought all my Steelers stuff in High School at the Wal Mart on Morse Road and Sports Fan Attic in Polaris (well, senior year)
• Automatik

  

  DaBrowns41;645810 wrote:If there were "fans" they were in hiding, because you couldn't buy Pitt gear in Columbus, and you saw VERY few Pitt fans around. You either saw Bengals, Indians, Reds, or Browns. Not even Cavs stuff, very much.
  
  They won the Super Bowl, and I've seen stores taking down Bengals/Browns stuff to sell Pitt stuff, and now I can't go out into the public without seeing some idiot. Generally, any Pitt "fan" that I talk to when I'm out doesn't know shit about football, but claims to have "grown up in the great city of Pittsburgh", blah blah blah.
  
  I don't really care. It's not like it's going to change. The day that there are no bandwagon fans in the world is the day that Obama gets up off his lazy ass and becomes a reasonably decent president.

  
  I lived in Columbus from 2003-2009 and nothing has changed. There even a store that was all OSU/Pittsburgh stuff back then. I can't think of it....maybe at Tuttle Mall?
  
  Where the hell are you hanging out that you constantly see Pittsburgh fans? Is your dumbass going to a Steeler bar and you don't even know it? lol
• DaBrowns41

  Actually, funny story is that I did have to go to a Steeler bar to watch the Browns opener. I didn't find out until too late that they were playing the Bunghole game on TV over the Browns.
  
  Every place I looked was packed, all the BW3's, so I had to go to some shitty pub in Stoneridge (Gahanna) that was all Steelers, and the cunt gave me attitude for wearing my Browns jersey. The worst part is, they didn't even have any good beer. I had to drink the abortion that is Miller Lite.
  
  And maybe I'm wrong, but growing up, we had to shop for my cousin who was a Pittsburgh fan and has been one since the 60's. We went to the popular malls like Northland and then Easton when it opened up, but you could never find Pittsburgh crap there. The only Pitt stuff we ever found was at Eastland mall, where you risked getting shot just driving in the parking lot.
• LJ

  

  DaBrowns41;645825 wrote:Actually, funny story is that I did have to go to a Steeler bar to watch the Browns opener. I didn't find out until too late that they were playing the Bunghole game on TV over the Browns.
  
  Every place I looked was packed, all the BW3's, so I had to go to some shitty pub in Stoneridge (Gahanna) that was all Steelers, and the cunt gave me attitude for wearing my Browns jersey. The worst part is, they didn't even have any good beer. I had to drink the abortion that is Miller Lite.

  That is actually yhe East Side Steelers bar.
  

  And maybe I'm wrong, but growing up, we had to shop for my cousin who was a Pittsburgh fan and has been one since the 60's. We went to the popular malls like Northland and then Easton when it opened up, but you could never find Pittsburgh crap there. The only Pitt stuff we ever found was at Eastland mall, where you risked getting shot just driving in the parking lot.

  
  Champs at Northland carried Steelers gear. My mom bought me a new sweater there every year when I was a kid.
  
  I believe JCPenny carried Steelers gear as well.
  
  Edit: forgot about getting Steelers stuff at Champs in Westerville too.
• Automatik

  

  If you really want to get into legit band wagoning that belongs to the Bengal faithful. When I first arrived in Columbus, I would say it was definitely a Cleveland Browns city. When Cincy started to improve it gradually changed. Hell I only knew 2 Bengal fans my entire life and one day they are everywhere, screaming "Who dey?" and wearing 85 jerseys.
• DaBrowns41

  Yeah, the Bar is the Alumni Club, or Alumni Team or something like that. It's a nice place, but the people are shitty, and they have shitty beer. Get Anhueser Busch products, and maybe put just one game that's not a Steelers game on a big screen, and it would be manageable.
• DaBrowns41

  Automatik;645835 wrote:If you really want to get into legit bangwagoning that belongs to the Bengal faithful. When I first arrived in Columbus, I would say it was definitely a Cleveland Browns city. When Cincy started to improve it gradually changed. Hell I only knew 2 Bengal fans my entire life and one day they are everywhere, screaming "Who dey?" and wearing 85 jerseys.

  
  No bandwagon is bigger than the Cincinnati Bearcats from 2006-2009, actually. I remember when they made those Buckeye shirts and I had people telling me that they would kill Ohio State and are going to replace them as the football school to beat in Ohio.
  
  That lasted for three seasons.
• LJ

  

  DaBrowns41;645836 wrote:Yeah, the Bar is the Alumni Club, or Alumni Team or something like that. It's a nice place, but the people are shitty, and they have shitty beer. Get Anhueser Busch products, and maybe put just one game that's not a Steelers game on a big screen, and it would be manageable.

  
  It;s a STEELERS bar, has been for YEARS(we are talking when it opened in the early 90's, the OCC alignment on the wall is from 1994 LOL) why would they show something other than the Steelers during a Steelers game?
• Automatik

  

  DaBrowns41;645836 wrote:Yeah, the Bar is the Alumni Club, or Alumni Team or something like that. It's a nice place, but the people are shitty, and they have shitty beer. Get Anhueser Busch products, and maybe put just one game that's not a Steelers game on a big screen, and it would be manageable.

  
  Or maybe just go to another bar. Theres only a few hundred of them in Columbus and the surrounding areas.
• DaBrowns41

  LJ;645839 wrote:It;s a STEELERS bar, has been for YEARS(we are talking when it opened in the early 90's, the OCC alignment on the wall is from 1994 LOL) why would they show something other than the Steelers during a Steelers game?

  
  When there are three people in the bar watching one screen, I think you can sacrifice one. It's just called bad business when you have paying people (paying more than anybody else in the bar), and we can't get a small favor.
  
  I don't really care, regardless. I just wanted to watch my game, and didn't really care how big or small the tv was.
• LJ

  

  DaBrowns41;645844 wrote:When there are three people in the bar watching one screen, I think you can sacrifice one. It's just called bad business when you have paying people (paying more than anybody else in the bar), and we can't get a small favor.
  
  I don't really care, regardless. I just wanted to watch my game, and didn't really care how big or small the tv was.

  
  Actually I was there for that game if you are talking about opening weekend. The place was packed. I was in the back.
• DaBrowns41

  Automatik;645840 wrote:Or maybe just go to another bar. Theres only a few hundred of them in Columbus and the surrounding areas.

  
  It was 1:10, and I already missed kickoff. The only bar along Morse Rd from North Hamilton to 71 that wasn't packed was this one.
  
  It was a one time thing. You act like I'm complaining about this place and continuously going there. I don't know what your problem with me is, but the attitude isn't deserved.
• DaBrowns41

  LJ;645845 wrote:Actually I was there for that game if you are talking about opening weekend. The place was packed. I was in the back.

  
  LOL. The Alumni Grill next to the Blockbuster in Stoneridge was packed on opening day?
  
  You go into the bar and there were (at the max) 6 people sitting on one side of the bar. Then, there was a group of three black people, two chicks and a dude, two were Steeler fans, and one of the girls was a Browns fan on the other side of the bar. Then, I was there with my g/f and there were two old Browns fans that stopped in there and sat in there for a half of football.
  
  I remember that day so vividly I could draw a picture. There weren't more than 11-12 people there, including myself and my girl. Hardly packed.