Week 13: Pittsburgh Steelers (8-3) at Baltimore Ravens (8-3)

• bigdaddy2003

  

  Art Modell;590548 wrote:Now that I think about it you're right. I never heard Reeds name mentioned one time. I guess we can put the who's the best safety in the NFL argument to bed now.

  
  I wouldn't go that far chief.
• THE4RINGZ

  

  I always thought Reed was legit. Someone you definitely had to gameplan around. I am not sure he is back to 100% after the injury however.
• Automatik

  

  McClain and Ngata were both fined today by the league.
  
  No flags, but fined.....nice job NFL.
  
  http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5892151&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines
  
  As for the best safety argument. That the choice is obvious. It might not have been a few seasons ago, but Troy has definitely separated himself as the best.
• rock_knutne

  Automatik;591067 wrote:As for the best safety argument. That the choice is obvious. It might not have been a few seasons ago, but Troy has definitely separated himself as the best.

  
  There's no doubt about it!
• bigdaddy2003

  

  No, there is definitely still a debate. Reed has been back for 5 games now and has 4 picks and a forced fumble. He also isn't 100 percent. Troy has been playing all season and has 4 picks. They both have the intangibles that don't show up on a stat sheet. We can agree to disagree all day about this issue but there is still a debate.
• Automatik

  

  The only ones debating it are Steelers haters and Ravens fans. Ask any NFL GM and you will see how much of a "debate" there really is.
  
  Like I said, a few years ago it was a tossup and I'm not discrediting Reed at all. He's one of my favorite players in the game.
• bigdaddy2003

  

  Automatik;591135 wrote:The only ones debating it are Steelers haters and Ravens fans. Ask any NFL GM and you will see how much of a "debate" there really is.
  
  Like I said, a few years ago it was a tossup and I'm not discrediting Reed at all. He's one of my favorite players in the game.

  
  I'm sticking with my statement. I don't know any NFL GM's but I doubt it would be unanimous. Troy happened to make the big play Sunday so we may look at it like he is the better safety but there have been games where Reed makes the big play and Troy is quiet. You can keep Troy and I will keep Reed.
• johngrizzly

  I'll take Troy. He has more rings. And that's what the NFL is all about from a fan's perspective......Super Bowls.
• Hb31187

  

  Better against the run and blitzing-Polamalu
  
  Better in pass coverage-Reed
  
  Id say its still a toss up between the 2 when both are @ 100%
• wes_mantooth

  

  I think it is a toss up as well, but I would take Reed. I think Troy makes big plays, but gets out of position a lot and is more likely to get burnt.
• bigdaddy2003

  

  johngrizzly;591410 wrote:I'll take Troy. He has more rings. And that's what the NFL is all about from a fan's perspective......Super Bowls.

  
  So Trent Dilfer was better than Dan Marino. That is a flawed way of thinking.
• Non

  

  The difference is Ed Reed is mostly a safety that covers the back and gets interceptions.
  
  Polamalu is what a strong safety should be in coming up to support the run, playing at the line of scrimmage sometimes but he still has the speed and cover skills to play in the back. For example, Bob Sanders when healthy is what a strong safety is supposed to be, like Polamalu, but he doesn't have Polamalu's range in coverage.
• Art Modell

  

  I just read in the Post-Gazette that this was the most watched game in Ravens history. Regular season that is.
• Thinthickbigred

  wes_mantooth;591494 wrote:I think it is a toss up as well, but I would take Reed. I think Troy makes big plays, but gets out of position a lot and is more likely to get burnt.

  
  Wow ...Troy anyday and twice on sundays ....who the hell is reed ..not even close to Troy....
• bigdaddy2003

  

  Thinthickbigred;592629 wrote:Wow ...Troy anyday and twice on sundays ....who the hell is reed ..not even close to Troy....

  Ding ding ding I think we have a winner for the ignorant post of the day.
• LJ

  

  wes_mantooth;591494 wrote:I think it is a toss up as well, but I would take Reed. I think Troy makes big plays, but gets out of position a lot and is more likely to get burnt.

  
  That is more LeBeau's schemes than anything. You always see him catching up to the play because of where LeBeau had him going. It also looks like he is out of position in their zone defense, but that is typically the corner whiffing on coverage while Troy plays his zone.
• outdoorsman

  I think Troy is more of a game changer but, Reed in coverage may be the best.
• bigdaddy2003

  

  We can debate this all day but the truth is they both have the power to change the game.
• THE4RINGZ

  

  +1