What should happen to the US-Slovenia ref?

• dave

  SportsAndLady;394224 wrote:He could have been 10 yards offside, it wouldn't matter...he isn't involved in the play, so he is irrelevant.

  
  That's not true, not sure why the announcer said that. On this particular play if one of those guys were offsides you have to call it because it would affect how the goalie defends and it also shields everyone behind. The ball was coming across so low it would need to be called. There are many times where players are irrelevant and you don't call it but this wasn't one of those. Doesn't really matter since there was no offsides though.
• se-alum

  

  Honestly, how do you get away with disallowing a goal w/o reason?? Yet another reason why soccer is a ridiculous sport.
• pinstriper

  FIFA's official scoring had it as a foul called on Edu (as he was approaching the ball I guess the idiot saw him as pushing by the defender). In any case, it was a terrible call, everyone knows it.
  My official stance, this guy should go back to living in a hut and eating mud for 3 meals a day.
• Laley23

  

  Bradley wasnt offside. (BTW, what the hell is offsides??)
  
  No one was offside.
  
  The player who mattered (Edu) wasnt offside at all, so even if Bradley was offside it didnt matter (sorry Dave, but the announcer was right...if a player doesnt make an attempt to play the ball its the keepers fault for reacting to him..thats a new stipulation FIFA just added).
• Laley23

  

  Also, USA should feel fortunate to have the draw. They played like ass, and I dont understand the defenders or Howards infatuation with the long ball. Thats all the did all game and I was about to break my damn TV because of it.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  he should be castrated...unfuckingbelievable that we come back and win the game and he makes that bullshit call.
• dave

  Laley23;394288 wrote:Bradley wasnt offside. (BTW, what the hell is offsides??)
  
  No one was offside.
  
  The player who mattered (Edu) wasnt offside at all, so even if Bradley was offside it didnt matter (sorry Dave, but the announcer was right...if a player doesnt make an attempt to play the ball its the keepers fault for reacting to him..thats a new stipulation FIFA just added).

  
  That is the referee's call, but if Bradley is deemed to interfere with the view of the defender (while being offside) causing an advantage for the offense then it can certainly be called. Look up the rules.
• Glory Days

  

  Laley23;394288 wrote:Bradley wasnt offside. (BTW, what the hell is offsides??)
  
  No one was offside.
  
  The player who mattered (Edu) wasnt offside at all, so even if Bradley was offside it didnt matter (sorry Dave, but the announcer was right...if a player doesnt make an attempt to play the ball its the keepers fault for reacting to him..thats a new stipulation FIFA just added).

  
  the ball went right by bradley though. if he was out standing by the corner flag yeah, he is out of the play. and its not like this happend at midfield in open field either. but either way though, bradley was perfectly even with the last defender because he was being bear hugged by the defender. so it shouldnt matter, he was onside.
• Laley23

  

  dave;394297 wrote:That is the referee's call, but if Bradley is deemed to interfere with the view of the defender (while being offside) causing an advantage for the offense then it can certainly be called. Look up the rules.

  
  The referee is NEVER gonna make that call and overrule the linesman. I saw it in this game alone where Dempsey was way offside and the ball got played to Findley/Dempsey. Dempsey ran to it, the linesman stopped about to raise flag and then Dempsey stopped and let Findley take it. No offside called. All WC the linesman have NOT called offside if the player doesnt touch the ball let alone not make an attempt to play it. If he had made the call, it wouldve been the wrong one.
• Glory Days

  

  Laley23;394336 wrote:The referee is NEVER gonna make that call and overrule the linesman. I saw it in this game alone where Dempsey was way offside and the ball got played to Findley/Dempsey. Dempsey ran to it, the linesman stopped about to raise flag and then Dempsey stopped and let Findley take it. No offside called. All WC the linesman have NOT called offside if the player doesnt touch the ball let alone not make an attempt to play it. If he had made the call, it wouldve been the wrong one.

  
  did that play happen infront of the goal though?
• Laley23

  

  Glory Days;394345 wrote:did that play happen infront of the goal though?

  
  No. I see your point, I just think the linesman have specific things they are looking for this tourney. Our goal happened in almost the exact same way as Argentina yesterday (but Argentina missed). Heinze was offside, but the ball went over him and no offside was called.
• SportsAndLady

  

  dave;394277 wrote:That's not true, not sure why the announcer said that. On this particular play if one of those guys were offsides you have to call it because it would affect how the goalie defends and it also shields everyone behind. The ball was coming across so low it would need to be called. There are many times where players are irrelevant and you don't call it but this wasn't one of those. Doesn't really matter since there was no offsides though.

  
  Well he wasn't offsides to begin with, so this is all hypothetical.
  
  And even if he was offsides, it still would be the incorrect call. He wasn't in the play..plenty of times you see someone offsides and the ball go right by him to someone who is onside, and they don't call offsides. No way do you call it becuase he "interfered" with the play..no way.
• karen lotz

  

  Death by horsecock?
• Glory Days

  

  Per FIFA laws of the game for 09/10:
  

  A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball
  touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee,
  involved in active play by:
  • interfering with play or
  • interfering with an opponent or
  • gaining an advantage by being in that position

  IF Bradley was offside, he does meet the first 2 requirements.
• Laley23

  

  Glory Days;394374 wrote:Per FIFA laws of the game for 09/10:
  
  
  
  IF Bradley was offside, he does meet the first 2 requirements.

  
  By rule? Yes. But not based on what has been being called in these WC finals. That is all I am saying.
• rock_knutne

  The bottom line is there was no foul and no offside on that play. It's a botched call and this ref should be relieved of his duties permantly.
• Laley23

  

  rock_knutne;394418 wrote:The bottom line is there was no foul and no offside on that play. It's a botched call and this ref should be relieved of his duties permantly.

  
  Agreed. Not to mention, he was awful the whole game. He did the African Cup of Nations Final....I dont know how he was so bad.
• Glory Days

  

  did anyone else notice how quick he blew the whistle? if you watch the replay you can see him raise the whistle to his mouth and raise his arm barely after the ball was kicked.
• Ytowngirlinfla

  

  Laley23;394421 wrote:Agreed. Not to mention, he was awful the whole game. He did the African Cup of Nations Final....I dont know how he was so bad.

  
  The fix was in. Everyone hates the US. Even though we aren't even that good at soccer.
• Laley23

  

  Ytowngirlinfla;394460 wrote:The fix was in. Everyone hates the US. Even though we aren't even that good at soccer.

  
  Well, he was awful for Slovenia as well. Dempsey shouldnt have lived to watch the first goal...
• 2kool4skool

  

  
  
  Disclaimer: No way meant to be racist, it's just that's the only good curb stomp gif out there.
• Laley23

  

  Just saw the replay, the dude blew the whistle before Donovan ever kicked it. If NOTHING else, that deserves a no kick and thus, a re-kick for the USA. He really was very timid with his arm movements as well. I really dont think he knew why he blew the whistle so he gave Slovenia a free kick....Terrible.
• sleeper

  

  Really bad call. I don't really know a lot about soccer, but I do understand the basics of the game, and that was not an offside, and you can take that to the bank.
• Laley23

  

  sleeper;394492 wrote:Really bad call. I don't really know a lot about soccer, but I do understand the basics of the game, and that was not an offside, and you can take that to the bank.

  
  nor a foul, which is what he called. Just horrible.
• CinciX12

  

  Wouldn't the linesman be the one who makes the final decision? If no flag goes up (I dont know if it did) then why blow your whistle?