Dan Gilbert calls out Cavs lack of effort & possible chemistry/lockerroom issues

• Nate

  sleeper wrote: I'd like to see the starting 5 of
  
  PG - Mo
  SG - Delonte
  SF - Lebron
  PF - Hickson
  C- Shaq
  
  Let Jamison replace Hickson, and Varejao replace Shaq when needed.
  
  When and if Mo starts blowing dick, put in Gibson or someone in that gives a damn(Gibson played hard last night, and with effort, have to give him credit).
  
  Parker and Moon can be subbed interchangeably with Lebron or Delonte, and occasionally we can go big and have Lebron run the point.

  Agreed.
• KnightRyder

  

  gibson did play hard last night i give him credit for that. but he aint no point guard. mo williams flat out stinks. just when you thought he couldnt get worse than last years playoff run, he did. one problem i see with brown is that he went to a 8 man rotation. yea i know all teams do that , but what team can actually go to a 10 man or 11 man rotation other than the cavs. they have all this depth but use it. from what little i saw of telfair this season i was more impressed with him. he seemed to play better with ball. and why do the cavs walk the ball up the court letting teams set their defense. they should be off and running. make teams scramble to get back on D.
• wildcats20

  

  sleeper wrote: I'd like to see the starting 5 of
  
  PG - Mo
  SG - Delonte
  SF - Lebron
  PF - Hickson
  C- Shaq
  
  Let Jamison replace Hickson, and Varejao replace Shaq when needed.
  
  When and if Mo starts blowing dick, put in Gibson or someone in that gives a damn(Gibson played hard last night, and with effort, have to give him credit).
  
  Parker and Moon can be subbed interchangeably with Lebron or Delonte, and occasionally we can go big and have Lebron run the point.

  Pretty good.
  
  I would say if Mo starts to suck, yank him and move Delonte to the 1 and bring in AP or Moon at the 2
  
  Also....what the hell happened to Jawad Williams?!?!? He was playing some of the best basketball on the Cavs towards the end of the year.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  I agree with that--the 8 man rotation is stupid. Should have never changed up what they were doing during the regular season. There is no reason for guys to rot on the bench in the playoffs--what was the reason for giving them so many minutes in the regular season then?
• SQ_Crazies

  

  wildcats20 wrote:
  Also....what the hell happened to Jawad Williams?!?!? He was playing some of the best basketball on the Cavs towards the end of the year.

  Got me.
  
  I've been hoping to see him all series.
• Footwedge

  vdubb96 wrote: I'm perplexed by the Shaq was awful comment. Footwedge, he's the only player last night other than Z and Parker that looked like they gave a FUCK!!!

  What? 2 blocked shots in the 4th quarter when the team was down 30 points?
  
  Apparently you forgot about the 17-0 Celtic run triggered by the re-entry of the fatass in the middle.
  
  O'Neal ruined this team. Anyone that has any basic understanding of Cav basketball over the past 2 years knows this.
  
  I would suggest to you read the thread started by Jordo. The Boston beat writer nailed it regarding O'Neal.
• wildcats20

  

  I think he was listed as inactive....
  
  I really think he can cause some matchup problems for teams. He can stretch it to the 3 and also take it to the paint...
  
  Plus he gets after it on D....
  
  OR maybe I'm just a Carolina homer...lol
• SportsAndLady

  

  Footwedge wrote:

  vdubb96 wrote: I'm perplexed by the Shaq was awful comment. Footwedge, he's the only player last night other than Z and Parker that looked like they gave a FUCK!!!

  What? 2 blocked shots in the 4th quarter when the team was down 30 points?
  
  Apparently you forgot about the 17-0 Celtic run triggered by the re-entry of the fatass in the middle.
  
  O'Neal ruined this team. Anyone that has any basic understanding of Cav basketball over the past 2 years knows this.
  
  I would suggest to you read the thread started by Jordo. The Boston beat writer nailed it regarding O'Neal.

  Did Shaq rape you?
• SQ_Crazies

  

  wildcats20 wrote: I think he was listed as inactive....
  
  I really think he can cause some matchup problems for teams. He can stretch it to the 3 and also take it to the paint...
  
  Plus he gets after it on D....
  
  OR maybe I'm just a Carolina homer...lol

  PLUS he just doesn't know how to play other than balls to the wall. Get him out there.
  
  You're not just a Carolina homer, Jawad was big for us all year.
• wildcats20

  

  And he's a REAL Clevelander....
• wildcats20

  

  I mean let's be honest, he isn't a make or break player for the series; but if you play him for 10-15 minutes a game, I guarantee he won't hurt you.
• Footwedge

  2quik4u wrote:

  Footwedge wrote:

  se-alum wrote: It's the same thing most of us have been saying about Mike Brown all year. He is absolutely clueless when it comes to rotations. His susbstitutions are mind-boggling at times. Where the hell was Delonte and Jamario in the 2nd half yesterday?? Brown may as well start looking for another job.

  And what rotationss would you be using? Show me 5 guys on this team that has earned his paycheck.
  
  Yeah bash Brown. How about this...Every fuggin rotation he has put out there stinks. Now....exactly who's fault is it again?
  
  Last night.
  
  DWest.... horrible
  Jamison...absolutely horrible.
  Shaq...pathetic
  LBJ....one of his worst games ever.
  Andy....complete no show
  Gibson for a spark....zero production.
  
  Only 2 people earned a check last night. Z and Parker.
  
  But let's all blame last year's coach of the year. Makes a lot of sense.

  you need to quit fucking posting. Shaq had 21 points last night, he was the only one playing out there.

  O'Neal was minus 23 last night. Get a fuggin clue. 8 of his points were uncontested dunks via drives and dishes by Mo Williams. Shaq stymied the offensive flow...as he has done all season. He did the same thing last year in Phoenix.
• sleeper

  

  I think Shaq needs to have his minutes limited, I like what he brings, but the offense should not run through him, ever.
• Footwedge

  SportsAndLady wrote:

  Footwedge wrote:

  vdubb96 wrote: I'm perplexed by the Shaq was awful comment. Footwedge, he's the only player last night other than Z and Parker that looked like they gave a FUCK!!!

  What? 2 blocked shots in the 4th quarter when the team was down 30 points?
  
  Apparently you forgot about the 17-0 Celtic run triggered by the re-entry of the fatass in the middle.
  
  O'Neal ruined this team. Anyone that has any basic understanding of Cav basketball over the past 2 years knows this.
  
  I would suggest to you read the thread started by Jordo. The Boston beat writer nailed it regarding O'Neal.

  Did Shaq rape you?

  Yes....me and about 100,000 other Cav fans. But some of you idiots apparently love the big black schwanz ripping apart your assholes.
• jpake1

  

  He should be pissed. If LBJ goes... start the firesale. Start with Mo. He's a heartless little grasshopper.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  If LBJ goes, Gilbert might as well sell to the highest bidder and get as much of his investment out as he can.
  
  The value of the franchise will literally be cut in half.
• Cleveland Buck

  

  I would be pissed too if I spent all of that money to watch the team not give a fuck.
• HitsRus

  

  I stick up for you Lebron...if you no help me now....I say fuck you.
• hoops23

  

  Dan Gilbert wouldn't sell the Cavs if LeBron left..
  
  Too much invested in Cleveland imo.
  
  However, I don't think he has to worry about it.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  I don't know, Gilbert is a business man. If there is no LeBron, he likely wouldn't have bought them in the first place. It'd be a smart move to get out ASAP, IMO.
• hoops23

  

  I know that, which is why I said what I said.
  
  He's got too much invested within the city itself, especially now with the casino.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  Now that he has that on lock he has even less reason to lose money on an NBA team with no star.
  
  It's irrelevant. I still believe LeBron will be a Cavalier for at least 3 more seasons.
• Sage

  

  Let the record show I was bashing Mike Brown before any Cavs fan here. Why? He's an idiot with rotations and doesn't lead his team, and he would eventually cost the Cavs some game.
  
  Also, let the record show that SQ also berated me over how good of chemistry the Cavs had because they hotdog after 3pointers and dance on the sidelines when they're up twenty in november.
  
  This team is a bunch of whiny, primadona bitches... Just like LeBron James. The dude wears a headband for fucksake. They don't have heart and they're going out like bitches in a little under 18 hours as soon as the going gets tough.
  
  Getting what this team deserves. They feel entitled and they haven't done shit.
  
  Don't let the Cavs go out in 6, or I will be posting a picture of my erect penis for people like SQ and Footwedge to worship as their God.
• SQ_Crazies

  

  I almost hope we lose so you post a picture of a cock and get yourself banned.
• hoops23

  

  lol