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Cleveland at Boston Game 6 DO OR DIE 8 pm

  • SQ_Crazies
    Mulva wrote:
    se-alum wrote: Best of luck to Mike Brown, wherever he ends up.
    I'll agree with that.

    He is a really nice, classy guy, he just isn't a good head coach.
    Agreed.

    I think he's a good coach, just not a good motivator. That's half of coaching, especially at the pro level.
  • SQ_Crazies
    Also agree with Mark Jackon saying if the Cavs want to be the "have fun" team in the regular season, don't change who you are in the post season. They try to become this emotionless, serious, on a mission team. That's not them. I think they psych themselves out.
  • Society
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Agreed.

    I think he's a good coach, just not a good motivator. That's half of coaching, especially at the pro level.
    Another example of you being a clueless fuck.

    SQ_Crazies wrote: This is where Mike Brown's brilliance will show this post season--and it'll prove to you that he learned a lot from last year. He's tinkered with A BUNCH of different rotations this year. Different lineups have all been put in tough situations. The record doesn't lie, clearly they were able to be versatile. That's where the roster improvements make the biggest difference between last year and this year as well--we have so many more ways to get it done. Mo going cold won't kill us, we've already seen the Cavs win a bunch of games when he was cold as hell because of the shoulder. Jamison is huge in that regard.

    Versatility is going to be a big reason the Cavs win the title this year. And a TON of credit goes to MB here, for putting players in spots and expecting them to get it done--and putting them in spots where they CAN get it done.
  • 2quik4u
    god damn, society i have grown to like you
  • SQ_Crazies
    LOL...ok? I still give him credit for what he did in the regular season. How was I supposed to know he'd stop doing it? It sure as hell worked in the regular season didn't it? And we got MULTIPLE big games from every player we had this season. Then we stop doing it.
  • Society
    Spin...Spin...Spin
  • Non
    still waiting for LeBron at the podium
  • Al Bundy
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Also agree with Mark Jackon saying if the Cavs want to be the "have fun" team in the regular season, don't change who you are in the post season. They try to become this emotionless, serious, on a mission team. That's not them. I think they psych themselves out.
    Instead of being the "have fun" team, how about being the team with a "killer instinct"?
  • SQ_Crazies
    Because they won more games than anyone in the regular season then they change their identity to try and be a team like that and that doesn't work.
  • Al Bundy
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Because they won more games than anyone in the regular season then they change their identity to try and be a team like that and that doesn't work.
    The other teams aren't concerned with how many games they win the regular season. It is about having your team peak in the playoffs. If you look at the truly great players who are focused, how many of them are doing dances and clowning around, etc. Hopefully the next head coach can get them focused on winning.
  • SQ_Crazies
    You don't win more games than anyone in the league if you aren't focused on winning, dumbass.

    They got beat by a better team, period. It's the media's fault and our fault for overrating LeBron's supporting cast. We saw them get beat by a BETTER team. I certainly didn't anticipate the C's playing this well but we all knew what this roster was capable of. They just hadn't been that all season, they looked they were done so people called it like they saw it. Some didn't give up on them. They got healthy and they came together and executed. They won because they're the better team.
  • Rebel_ I.N.S.
    se-alum wrote:
    Rebel_ I.N.S. wrote:
    se-alum wrote:
    Rebel_ I.N.S. wrote: The kid had a triple double almost a quadrupole double (with the turnovers) he needed more help. Antawn sucked all series & a so called "washed up" KG ate his lunch. Mo Williams finally showed up again to little to late wow what a surprise there. The young stud JJ Hickson barely got off the pine & just think they could of had Amare if they were willing to give up a guy who didn't factor in this series at all.
    Get your facts straight, the Suns wouldn't pull the trigger, not the Cavs. Come back when you know what the hell you're talkin' bout.
    Get my facts straight the Suns wanted Hickson as part of the deal. Cleveland didn't want to trade him.
    Lol....do you really think any GM in the league wouldn't trade JJ Hickson for A'mare Stoudemire??? GTFO
    I didn't say they were going to trade them straight up for each other.
  • Al Bundy
    SQ_Crazies wrote: You don't win more games than anyone in the league if you aren't focused on winning, dumbass.

    They got beat by a better team, period. It's the media's fault and our fault for overrating LeBron's supporting cast. We saw them get beat by a BETTER team. I certainly didn't anticipate the C's playing this well but we all knew what this roster was capable of. They just hadn't been that all season, they looked they were done so people called it like they saw it. Some didn't give up on them. They got healthy and they came together and executed. They won because they're the better team.
    They don't have the focus to be a champion. I'm sorry if you are too stupid to see that. I agree the supporting cast isn't as good as some think, but they also need focus.
  • SQ_Crazies
    Al Bundy wrote:
    SQ_Crazies wrote: You don't win more games than anyone in the league if you aren't focused on winning, dumbass.

    They got beat by a better team, period. It's the media's fault and our fault for overrating LeBron's supporting cast. We saw them get beat by a BETTER team. I certainly didn't anticipate the C's playing this well but we all knew what this roster was capable of. They just hadn't been that all season, they looked they were done so people called it like they saw it. Some didn't give up on them. They got healthy and they came together and executed. They won because they're the better team.
    They don't have the focus to be a champion. I'm sorry if you are too stupid to see that. I agree the supporting cast isn't as good as some think, but they also need focus.
    No, no, no. What I'm not stupid enough to miss and not admit is that the Celtics were flat out better.
  • Al Bundy
    SQ_Crazies wrote:
    Al Bundy wrote:
    SQ_Crazies wrote: You don't win more games than anyone in the league if you aren't focused on winning, dumbass.

    They got beat by a better team, period. It's the media's fault and our fault for overrating LeBron's supporting cast. We saw them get beat by a BETTER team. I certainly didn't anticipate the C's playing this well but we all knew what this roster was capable of. They just hadn't been that all season, they looked they were done so people called it like they saw it. Some didn't give up on them. They got healthy and they came together and executed. They won because they're the better team.
    They don't have the focus to be a champion. I'm sorry if you are too stupid to see that. I agree the supporting cast isn't as good as some think, but they also need focus.
    No, no, no. What I'm not stupid enough to miss and not admit is that the Celtics were flat out better.
    The Celtics are the better team. I was just pointing out that one of the areas where the Cavs need to improve is their focus. The new coach needs to put an end to the pregame things immediately, and he need to let the team know that they need to be serious about winning. LeBron needs to step up and be a leader instead of a clown before games.
  • SQ_Crazies
    I disagree. They can be that "have fun" team. It works for them, they win tons of games. It's when they try to be something they aren't when they start to struggle.
  • Al Bundy
    SQ_Crazies wrote: I disagree. They can be that "have fun" team. It works for them, they win tons of games. It's when they try to be something they aren't when they start to struggle.
    I think LeBron needs to be a leader instead of trying to be friends with everyone on the team. I can't imagine any of the all-time great players doing dances before games. I can imagine the all-time great leaders calling out their teammates if they are dicking around instead of doing what is needed to win championships.
  • SQ_Crazies
    Blah, blah, blah. It really makes sense that the dancing affects his focus when he comes out and averages ridiculous numbers and wins a 2nd straight MVP award. It doesn't matter what you do before games, it's about what you're doing during them. The Cavs try to be this on a mission, focused team like the C's and they forget how to play, they lose their chemistry and they psych themselves out.
  • Al Bundy
    SQ_Crazies wrote: Blah, blah, blah. It really makes sense that the dancing affects his focus when he comes out and averages ridiculous numbers and wins a 2nd straight MVP award. It doesn't matter what you do before games, it's about what you're doing during them. The Cavs try to be this on a mission, focused team like the C's and they forget how to play, they lose their chemistry and they psych themselves out.
    Focus isn't something you just turn on in the playoffs. Look at champion players Jordan, Magic, Bird, Duncan, Hakeem, and I'll even through Kobe in here. They are leaders to their teammates in a positive way. You are correct that LeBron won 2 straight MVPs, but is that is ultimate goal? Great leaders will call out teammates if they are screwing around. LeBron is leading the screwing around.
  • SQ_Crazies
    If you're trying to convince me that LeBron isn't a great leader, then we might as well not waste the time continuing this conversation.
  • jpake1
    That's all she wrote folks. I can't help but smile just a bit. Cavs fans on this site got what they deserved-- their hearts broken. I can only hope it gets worse.
  • Al Bundy
    SQ_Crazies wrote: If you're trying to convince me that LeBron isn't a great leader, then we might as well not waste the time continuing this conversation.
    He isn't a great leader at this point in his career. If MJ would have seen a lack of defensive effort and lack of rebounding effort, he would have called out his teammates. a 6'0" point guard had 19 boards in a game this series. The lack of effort of the team at certain times in this series bothers me more than anything else about the series. None of the players took the lead regarding the lack of effort at several points in the series.
  • osu45804
    Guess them "OLD" Celtics aren't as Old as you guys thought huh?
  • lhslep134
    Okay so I've gotten in HUGE disagreements with SQ the past few days but I completely agree with him now. The Cavs got beat by a team that played a lot better and a lot harder than us. The Cavs only played 1 game out of six like a complete team, and they got beat by a team that played better in 5 of 6 games.

    I don't know what's going to happen to the Cavs, but all I can say is that I'm very impressed by the way the Celtics played this entire series.
  • SQ_Crazies
    osu45804 wrote: Guess them "OLD" Celtics aren't as Old as you guys thought huh?
    They're as old as I thought still, but they played better than I thought they would. Congrats to you, good luck with Orlando. I'll be the first to admit that your team was better and that's why they won. I underestimated them, along with MANY others. At least that is how it's looked at, I really think in my case what happened was more of an overestimation of the Cavs. I was guilty of overrating the Cavs supporting cast. I never really thought the Celtics weren't good, I just thought we were better. But I was wrong. I saw banged up, injured guys struggle through the regular season and confused it for them breaking down as players. They had timing on their side and they were as healthy as they have been going into the series--and when they're healthy they're a better team than the Cavs.