Reds @ Marlins--Game 3

• SportsAndLady

  

  Dickerson 8
  Janish 6
  Votto 3
  Phillips 4
  Rolen 5
  Bruce 9
  Gomes 7
  Hernandez 2
  Bailey 1
• stroups

  

  I am happy to see Stubbs get some time off, I think he is a great talent but those strikeouts are becoming a liability at the leadoff spot.
• jordo212000

  

  Why the heck is Janish hitting in the 2 hole? You need to have a guy who can actually hit in that spot. I hate the fact that Baker has set spots in the batting order for certain positions. Leadoff must play CF, the 2 hole must be the shortstop, etc
• Swamp Fox

  How about those Reds. Off to a pretty good start. Perhaps this will be the turnaround year!
• BCBulldog

  

  jordo, don't waste any brain power trying to figure out the logic behind Baker's lineups. Your brain will try to eat itself.
• Little Danny

  

  Have you seen the turnout for this series down in Florida. I hope the first two games does not turn Floridians from going to the ballpark. There might not be anyone in attendance for game four.
• BCBulldog

  

  There is no doubt in my mind that there are more people at any minor league park in Ohio than there are at Marlins games. That is pathetic.
• mhs95_06

  jordo212000 wrote: Why the heck is Janish hitting in the 2 hole? You need to have a guy who can actually hit in that spot. I hate the fact that Baker has set spots in the batting order for certain positions. Leadoff must play CF, the 2 hole must be the shortstop, etc

  Fox just said the Reds last year were like 23-13 with Janish batting 2nd.
  
  Reds starters ERA is 3rd best in the league, but starters have no wins, the bullpen has all five wins. A few blown saves, but none by Cordero. I wonder how many runs worse the bullpen ERA is vs the starters?
• jordo212000

  

  mhs95_06 wrote: Fox just said the Reds last year were like 23-13 with Janish batting 2nd.

  Who came up with that stat? Haha. His defense may be better than Cabrera's, but ultimately that bump in defense does not offset the fact that he is a career .205 hitter.
  
  I am guessing that there were other variables that were involved with that 23-13 record.
• mhs95_06

  Reds bullpen is not weary because the starters have been poor. They are 5th in the league at 6.1 innings per start, with only 6 teams at 6.0 or better, and two leams are at less than 5.0!
• stroups

  

  This is what I would like to see for a lineup
  
  Dickerson 8
  Phillips 4
  Votto 3
  Rolen 5
  Gomes 7
  Bruce 9
  Janish 6
  Hernandez 2
  Bailey 1
• mhs95_06

  jordo212000 wrote:

  mhs95_06 wrote: Fox just said the Reds last year were like 23-13 with Janish batting 2nd.

  Who came up with that stat? Haha. His defense may be better than Cabrera's, but ultimately that bump in defense does not offset the fact that he is a career .205 hitter.
  
  I am guessing that there were other variables that were involved with that 23-13 record.

  I'm sure there are other variables, but the point is he doesn't hurt them too bad there.
• SportsAndLady

  

  jordo212000 wrote:
  I am guessing that there were other variables that were involved with that 23-13 record.

  Other variables included or not, it's still an impressive stat for young Janish and a stat you simply cannot ignore. Now, if it were like 8-3, then yeah...but 36 games is more than enough of a sample size to conclude that he is a solid 2 hitter.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Homer gettin murked.
• mhs95_06

  Not what these two managers with weary bullpens want to see in the first inning:
  
  Volstad 27 pitches
  Bailey 24 pitches
• CinciX12

  

  I was content with Bailey only giving up 1 in that inning.
• CinciX12

  

  This inning looks to be a disaster.
  
  2-0 FLA
• jordo212000

  

  SportsAndLady wrote: Other variables included or not, it's still an impressive stat for young Janish and a stat you simply cannot ignore. Now, if it were like 8-3, then yeah...but 36 games is more than enough of a sample size to conclude that he is a solid 2 hitter.

  Wouldn't the main stat that determines how solid of a hitter he is be his career numbers? At the end of the day he hits .205, how can anybody say that he is a solid #2 hitter? It makes no sense statistically. You tend to put your best/better hitters towards the top of the lineup so that they get more at bats. Why would you want a guy like Janish getting more ABs than a guy like Scott Rolen?
• SportsAndLady

  

  jordo212000 wrote:

  SportsAndLady wrote: Other variables included or not, it's still an impressive stat for young Janish and a stat you simply cannot ignore. Now, if it were like 8-3, then yeah...but 36 games is more than enough of a sample size to conclude that he is a solid 2 hitter.

  Wouldn't the main stat that determines how solid of a hitter he is be his career numbers? At the end of the day he hits .205, how can anybody say that he is a solid #2 hitter? It makes no sense statistically. You tend to put your best/better hitters towards the top of the lineup so that they get more at bats. Why would you want a guy like Janish getting more ABs than a guy like Scott Rolen?

  There's other variables to a good player at the plate than average...notice how I didn't say a hitter. I do not know for sure, but I'm assuming he's good at moving batters over, situational hitting, sac bunts/flies, etc. And as you already mentioned, he's very good in the field.
  
  "It makes no sense statistically."
  
  Obviously it does make sense statistically...Reds are 23-13 as a starter in the 2 spot.
• jordo212000

  

  SportsAndLady wrote:
  There's other variables to a good player at the plate than average...notice how I didn't say a hitter. I do not know for sure, but I'm assuming he's good at moving batters over, situational hitting, sac bunts/flies, etc. And as you already mentioned, he's very good in the field.
  
  "It makes no sense statistically."
  
  Obviously it does make sense statistically...Reds are 23-13 as a starter in the 2 spot.

  His OBP is only .290, which is abysmal. Wouldn't one think that Scott Rolen or nearly anybody else who hits above a .270 clip be just as adept at situational hitting?
  
  Also what difference does it make how good a bunter he is? We all know over the past year and a half the Reds have had non-existent leadoff hitters who never get on base.
• SportsAndLady

  

  jordo212000 wrote:

  SportsAndLady wrote:
  There's other variables to a good player at the plate than average...notice how I didn't say a hitter. I do not know for sure, but I'm assuming he's good at moving batters over, situational hitting, sac bunts/flies, etc. And as you already mentioned, he's very good in the field.
  
  "It makes no sense statistically."
  
  Obviously it does make sense statistically...Reds are 23-13 as a starter in the 2 spot.

  His OBP is only .290, which is abysmal. Wouldn't one think that Scott Rolen or nearly anybody else who hits above a .270 clip be just as adept at situational hitting?
  
  Also what difference does it make how good a bunter he is? We all know over the past year and a half the Reds have had a non-existent leadoff hitters who never get on base.

  Look I don't know the reasoning, I was just throwing out possibilities.
  
  All I'm saying is he must be doing something right, because you don't have that good of a winning record after 36 starts and it be coincidence/luck.
  
  10 games, yes. 36?
• mhs95_06

  After 4 innings:
  
  Volstad 76 pitches, one run
  Bailey 82 pitches, 3 runs
• Rotinaj

  

  Why does everyone swing at such shitty pitches??
• SportsAndLady

  

  Buy or sell Chris Welch has a boner right now
• wildcats20

  

  lol
  
  What's going on?? Thanks to Insight Cable and FSN, I get the Cavs on ALL 3 of my FSN channels.