Vitamins, Supplements, Drugs

• Spock

  

  GOONx19;1882570 wrote:Lol - I️ challenge you to find an iron supplement that isn’t “ferrous”. That literally means “containing iron” in Latin. The salt form is what changes.

  https://www.livestrong.com/article/70183-types-iron-supplements/
  
  Here you go. Please read along carefully in this thread.
• like_that

  

  A pharmacist vs somebody who googled "ferrous" and chose a livestrong article. This should be good.
• Spock

  

  I am not " somebody". I kind of have a college degree in this stuff.
• MontyBrunswick

  

  i've been taking antibiotics daily for a few months so i wont get sick
• kizer permanente

  Spock;1882584 wrote:I am not " somebody". I kind of have a college degree in this stuff.

  He has a doctorate in this “stuff”. You teach dodgeball.
• Spock

  

  MontyBrunswick;1882588 wrote:i've been taking antibiotics daily for a few months so i wont get sick

  A few months???? That's not good.
• Spock

  

  kizer permanente;1882590 wrote:He has a doctorate in this “stuff”. You teach dodgeball.

  Good for him but understanding simple nutrients doesn't require a Phd.
• kizer permanente

  You wasted your time in Pharmacy school, goon. You could have read a livestrong article instead.
  
  Oops... could of.
• HitsRus

  

  As an older guy who does about 200 minutes of vigorous exercise a week, I take chondroitin MSA for my joints, omega -3 supplements shooting for 500mg of EPA and DHA daily, and 2000-4000 i.u. vitamin D. I also take prescription Blood pressure pills, because I have hereditary HBP. I also take a statin but will talk to my MD and Cardiologist about getting off of it or reducing it because with my current regimen of diet and exercise, my numbers have been great....135 total cholesterol with the HDL's being near 60. I'm not really afraid of a statins, having talked to enough experts on it, just want to get off of it on general principles.
  
  It really is about diet....I am firmly entrenched pescatarian/mediteranean with some flexibility to enjoy some red meat on occasion.
• Ironman92

  

  like_that;1882583 wrote:A pharmacist vs somebody who googled "ferrous" and chose a livestrong article. This should be good.

  Pharmacists do very little research on how things you take affect the body
• Ironman92

  

  I have a college degree in health but haven’t taught it since 2005 and am not a very good source on vitamins. I’ve asked my daughter who is in pharmacy school and now asking you guys on here as this forum isn’t big on numbers but between the members typically knows a good deal about the majority of topics.
• Ironman92

  

  kizer permanente;1882590 wrote:He has a doctorate in this “stuff”. You teach dodgeball.

  I tell people I teach jumping jacks.
• GOONx19

  

  Easy now guys, CC is right: there are currently five forms of "ferric" product available in the world. Allow me to provide my "understanding of basic nutrients" regarding each of them.
  
  Ferric gluconate is an IV-only formulation that is given to patients receiving hemodialysis or patients with chemo-induced anemia. CC is right, you should not take a multivitamin that says it contains ferric gluconate because it does not exist in oral form.
  
  Ferric subsulfate is a topical liquid. It is used to stop bleeding following cervical biopsy. CC is right, you should not take a multivitamin that contains ferric subsulfate. If your cervix is bleeding, I suggest the emergency department.
  
  Ferric hexacyanoferrate is a capsule! Wow, you can take it by mouth! We're getting closer to the multivitamin possibility now. I am hopeful that your multivitamin does not contain ferric hexacyanoferrate, because it is only used as an antidote for radioactive cesium or thallium ingestion. You will know if your multivitamin contains this form of iron if your feces turns blue. This is an expected side effect.
  
  Ferric citrate is also available in an oral dosage form. The Livestrong article is right on point when it says, "there is a reduced chance of iron poisoning with iron citrate." That's because it is not absorbed and is not used as an iron supplement. It is only available with a prescription and is used to treat hyperphosphatemia. It binds phosphate in the GI tract and is excreted in the feces.
  
  Ferric carboxymaltose is the last available ferric product. It is used to treat iron-deficiency anemia. CC is right; do not buy a multivitamin that contains this product., because it is only available as a vial for IV-injection.
  
  TLDR: thank you CC for providing me a link to the Livestrong article. If your multivitamin contains a ferric form of iron, please call the FDA, as the supplement company is in violation of federal law (either the Pure Food and Drug Act of 1906 or the Durham-Humphrey Amendment of 1951).
• Ironman92

  

  I think you dropped this goon.... [emoji441]
• salto

  

  Pot, ibuprofen, multivitamin, bananas, Gatorade, beer, coffee and water.
• Spock

  

  salto;1882638 wrote:Pot, ibuprofen, multivitamin, bananas, Gatorade, beer, coffee and water.

  you had me till this. the rest is spot on
• thavoice

  gw 501516