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ironman02

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/tropical-storm-harvey-forecast-texas-louisiana-arkansas[FONT=&amp]

Here are the latest rainfall totals through 11 p.m. CDT Tuesday, all in Texas unless otherwise specified:[/FONT]

51.88 inches on Cedar Bayou near Highlands, Texas (Preliminary Lower 48 tropical cyclone record)
49.32 inches on Mary's Creek near Friendswood (Preliminary Lower 48 tropical cyclone record)
46.08 inches in Dayton
43.00 inches in South Houston
42.58 inches in Pasadena
41.66 inches in League City
41.52 inches in Clear Lake City
37.40 inches in Baytown
33.88 inches at Houston Hobby Airport
31.18 inches at Houston Bush Intercontinental Airport
21.94 inches in Galveston
21.88 inches in Smithville
19.64 inches in College Station
13.25 inches near Lake Charles, Louisiana
12.33 inches near Hackberry, Louisiana
10.07 inches at Austin's Robert Mueller Municipal Airport
9.37 inches near Victoria
6.50 inches in Lafayette, Louisiana
6.23 inches near Corpus Christi
3.65 inches at New Orleans/Lakefront

SportsAndLady

gut;1869354 wrote:I wasn't aware of the timeline. I guess they only had a little less than a day between it being upgraded to Cat 2 and making landfall. So no practical or reasonable way they could have evacuated.

But hurricanes tend to change pretty dramatically before making landfall, sometimes largely dissipating and sometimes gather steam into a monster. If I was in the path of a potential hurricane, I'd get out of dodge.

Hindsight is 20/20. There have been plenty of times where a hurricane was expected to hit a city and it ended up missing almost entirely.

Laley23

ironman02;1869399 wrote:https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/tropical-storm-harvey-forecast-texas-louisiana-arkansas[FONT=&amp]

Here are the latest rainfall totals through 11 p.m. CDT Tuesday, all in Texas unless otherwise specified:[/FONT]

51.88 inches on Cedar Bayou near Highlands, Texas (Preliminary Lower 48 tropical cyclone record)

49.32 inches on Mary's Creek near Friendswood (Preliminary Lower 48 tropical cyclone record)

46.08 inches in Dayton

43.00 inches in South Houston

42.58 inches in Pasadena

41.66 inches in League City

41.52 inches in Clear Lake City

37.40 inches in Baytown

33.88 inches at Houston Hobby Airport

31.18 inches at Houston Bush Intercontinental Airport

21.94 inches in Galveston

21.88 inches in Smithville

19.64 inches in College Station

13.25 inches near Lake Charles, Louisiana

12.33 inches near Hackberry, Louisiana

10.07 inches at Austin's Robert Mueller Municipal Airport

9.37 inches near Victoria

6.50 inches in Lafayette, Louisiana

6.23 inches near Corpus Christi

3.65 inches at New Orleans/Lakefront

For perspective, Seattle has had the most rainfall in history this year...at 45 inches.

QuakerOats

Bio-Hazzzzard;1869385 wrote:I understand where you were headed with this.

I have seen more devastation from a tropical storm than some hurricanes, not typical. Hard to determine the impact of these storms with sustained winds, and tornadoes are common. Best case scenario use your better judgment for yourself, if you feel the need to get the fuck out don't wait for government authorities to let you know what's best for you and your family.

Exactly, on all counts.

I have also seen the toll of a tropical storm that stalled out and became stationary; massive beach erosion and flooding; whereas hurricanes tend to be moving pretty fast, and move on quickly. This was obviously the 100 year exception.

gut

SportsAndLady;1869403 wrote:Hindsight is 20/20. There have been plenty of times where a hurricane was expected to hit a city and it ended up missing almost entirely.

Which is pretty much what I said. Sometimes it's nothing, sometimes it's much worse than predicted. The downside on one-hand is 3 days of vacation...on the other it's death. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to know how to play those odds.

SportsAndLady

gut;1869488 wrote:Which is pretty much what I said. Sometimes it's nothing, sometimes it's much worse than predicted. The downside on one-hand is 3 days of vacation...on the other it's death. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to know how to play those odds.

Not sure how else to say that a lot of people are unable to take "3 day vacations" especially on such short notice.

gut

SportsAndLady;1869498 wrote:Not sure how else to say that a lot of people are unable to take "3 day vacations" especially on such short notice.

I think most companies would make an exception for hurricanes - and personal days, which mostly have replaced sick days, are precisely for unscheduled emergencies. And you're not going to fire someone for bugging out because the public backlash would be severe.

And if only people who can't leave stay, then you have a lot less people who can evacuate much more quickly.

salto

People who live in Houston are use to flooding. Houston floods a lot, it's just normally not this bad.
(why not many left)

Houston's Flood Is a Design Problem

It’s not because the water comes in. It’s because it is forced to leave again.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/08/why-cities-flood/538251/

Laley23;1869408 wrote:For perspective, Seattle has had the most rainfall in history this year...at 45 inches.

Not sure of your point, comparing Seattle to Houston. Seattle has about 1/4 the population, surrounded by mountains and also acres of parklands. Houston is much lower, at about one tenth of Seattle's elevation.

In Seattle, plenty of room for water to be absorbed by land.

Fab4Runner

salto;1869502 wrote:People who live in Houston are use to flooding. Houston floods a lot, it's just normally not this bad.
(why not many left)

Houston's Flood Is a Design Problem

It’s not because the water comes in. It’s because it is forced to leave again.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/08/why-cities-flood/538251/

Not sure of your point, comparing Seattle to Houston. Seattle has about 1/4 the population, surrounded by mountains and also acres of parklands. Houston is much lower, at about one tenth of Seattle's elevation.

In Seattle, plenty of room for water to be absorbed by land.

I believe he is saying that everyone knows Seattle is super rainy, but parts of Houston got more rain in a few days than Seattle has all year. Again, for perspective.

friendfromlowry

Can this thread also be about hurricane Irma? Sure hope it doesn't take the same path Harvey did.

salto

Fab4Runner;1869567 wrote:I believe he is saying that everyone knows Seattle is super rainy, but parts of Houston got more rain in a few days than Seattle has all year. Again, for perspective.

Got it.

friendfromlowry;1869582 wrote:Can this thread also be about hurricane Irma? Sure hope it doesn't take the same path Harvey did.

Latest says Miami may be the next Houston/New Orleans.

Heretic

I haven't really liked JJ Watt as a football player because he's always come off as this over-the-top "LOOK AT HOW HARD I WORK; I'M ALL ABOUT SERIOUS FOOTBALL!!!!!" douche, but he's raised over $10M for Houston so far, so kudos to him for that.

iclfan2

salto;1869590 wrote:Latest says Miami may be the next Houston/New Orleans.

It is way to early to have any inkling of where Irma is going past Monday/ Tuesday. Category 4 is gonna mess some shit up if it keeps it up though.

gut

salto;1869590 wrote: Latest says Miami may be the next Houston/New Orleans.

Al Gore already sees fish swimming in the streets....and that's just your typical Sunday!

fish82

Laley23;1869351 wrote:Again, why evacuate for a thunderstorm?

It was category 1 and escalated to category 4 in under 36 hours...

The wind strength was never the issue. The biblical rainfall was foretasted 5+ days in advance. They knew well beforehand that the storm was going to stall out over the city.

salto

iclfan2;1869601 wrote:It is way to early to have any inkling of where Irma is going past Monday/ Tuesday. Category 4 is gonna mess some shit up if it keeps it up though.

Trump and his newest toy (HAARP) will steer Irma directly towards Miami.

*too

salto

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Spock

salto;1869623 wrote:[video=youtube;ZUIiRHrUbpE][/video]

and your bong water logged brain actually believes this shit.

salto

Spock;1869634 wrote:and your bong water logged brain actually believes this shit.

Figures you'd be the first to comment, believing that.

FYI - HAARP is shut down and all the weather manipulation happens at Norway's EISCAT, which is much more powerful than HAARP.

Classyposter58

Houston didn't get hit by the hurricane really, it was the rain banding that crushed it. The deadly winds were around Corpus Christi, but Houston shouldn't have been evacuated as there was no way of knowing that intense banding would drop that much rain

salto

Classyposter58;1869641 wrote:Houston didn't get hit by the hurricane really, it was the rain banding that crushed it. The deadly winds were around Corpus Christi, but Houston shouldn't have been evacuated as there was no way of knowing that intense banding would drop that much rain

Trump knew.

fish82

Classyposter58;1869641 wrote:Houston didn't get hit by the hurricane really, it was the rain banding that crushed it. The deadly winds were around Corpus Christi, but Houston shouldn't have been evacuated as there was no way of knowing that intense banding would drop that much rain

Whether Houston should have been evacuated is certainly debatable, but the "catastrophic rain event" was forecasted 3-5 days in advance. The storm behaved exactly as the advance predictions stated.

Spock

Politicians should have made a bigger deal of this. But on the other hand there is always stupid people that stay.

MontyBrunswick

Spock;1869702 wrote:Politicians should have made a bigger deal of this.

Like Trump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spock

MontyBrunswick;1869708 wrote:Like Trump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no. the local ones that are actually in charge of emergency services. The whole idea that the Prez should or could do anything is ridiculous

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