losing your religion

• QuakerOats

  Once the man-made warming myths resurfaced the record had to be corrected.
  
  
  Now back to secularism crowding out religion as per design by BIG government liberals.
• sleeper

  

  QuakerOats;1793381 wrote:Once the man-made warming myths resurfaced the record had to be corrected.
  
  
  Now back to secularism crowding out religion as per design by BIG government liberals.

  Ignorance never wins in the long run. It's not big government.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Oh so Quaker believes NASA manipulated the data. What a shocker.
• Heretic

  

  ptown_trojans_1;1793384 wrote:Oh so Quaker believes NASA manipulated the data. What a shocker.

  You have to perversely admire a man who, when confronted with anything he personally disagrees with, immediately jumps feet first into the "IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!! C-O-N....spiracy!!!" pit. Basically saying to the world: "I don't give a fuck how crazy I look, I'm owning that crazy and parading it around town!" With bonus points for doing so on a thread he initially entered to defend a religion based on a book loaded with a whole bunch of shit that comes off as more fanciful than "man-made warming".
• QuakerOats

  I don't believe I uttered the word conspiracy whatsoever. I am not sure why you constantly make ridiculous leaps other than to disparage points of view held by many millions of people in defense of populist/socialist agendas.
  
  I did not mention the bible either; you may be confusing me with other posters. I did talk about living in a Christ-like manner which is something the Catholic faith can assist one in doing.
  
  Good luck.
• MontyBrunswick

  

  QuakerOats;1793393 wrote:I don't believe I uttered the word conspiracy whatsoever. I am not sure why you constantly make ridiculous leaps other than to disparage points of view held by many millions of people in defense of populist/socialist agendas.
  
  I did not mention the bible either; you may be confusing me with other posters. I did talk about living in a Christ-like manner which is something the Catholic faith can assist one in doing.
  
  Good luck.

  Amen!!!!!!!
• Wolves of Babylon

  The truth is religion was created for two reasons in my opinion.
  
  1. Keep people in check. Be bad and you will suffer.
  
  2. People are afraid of death and need assurance something else will happen when they die.
  
  
  
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• O-Trap

  

  Wolves of Babylon;1793418 wrote:The truth is religion was created for two reasons in my opinion.
  
  1. Keep people in check. Be bad and you will suffer.
  
  2. People are afraid of death and need assurance something else will happen when they die.
  
  
  
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  I did a thesis on the development of afterlife theology among Semitic people in Coele-Syria (Palestine, essentially) during the (mostly) Greek, and Roman empires. Believe it or not, the Semitic "religion" at the time cared very little about eternal suffering, and there is a strong indication that the majority of it gave little thought to afterlife at all, let alone as a dichotomy where the "faithful" go one place and the "unfaithful" go another place.
  
  I'm certainly not suggesting that it hasn't been used that way over the ages, particularly in the last couple millenia, but there is plenty of writing to suggest that if it was created to do as you suggest, it oddly spent very little time or writing on the subject of eternal suffering or afterlife in general.
• Apple

  

  Wolves of Babylon;1793418 wrote:The truth is religion was created for two reasons in my opinion.
  
  1. Keep people in check. Be bad and you will suffer.
  
  2. People are afraid of death and need assurance something else will happen when they die.
  
  
  
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  Without the research of O-trap, I would also add religions have tended to collect a lot of money.
  
  Follow the money, even today with the climate change supporters.
• sleeper

  

  Apple;1793429 wrote:Without the research of O-trap, I would also add religions have tended to collect a lot of money.
  
  Follow the money, even today with the climate change supporters.

  Yeah because big oil doesn't dump a lot of money into the political system and think tanks to deny climate change.
• isadore

  Jesus and Pope Francis are nice guys.
• QuakerOats

  sleeper;1793433 wrote:Yeah because big oil doesn't dump a lot of money into the political system and think tanks to deny climate change.

  
  I know; they are so evil ................risking vast sums of capital to supply the energy the world needs to shelter and feed all its people.
  
  
  Jail 'em !!
• SportsAndLady

  

  O-Trap;1793426 wrote:I did a thesis on the development of afterlife theology among Semitic people in Coele-Syria (Palestine, essentially) during the (mostly) Greek, and Roman empires.

  Why?
• sleeper

  

  QuakerOats;1793438 wrote:I know; they are so evil ................risking vast sums of capital to supply the energy the world needs to shelter and feed all its people.
  
  
  Jail 'em !!

  Yeah because that's what I said.
• jmog

  rocketalum;1793173 wrote:On the point of youth indoctrination we were discussing earlier in the thread. My wife showed me this video last night, these kids don't stand a chance. If you as an adult decide that knowing about the book of Job is more important than basic arithmetic, that's your own stupid life decision. Forcing that on kids in the name of faith/religion/whatever...despicable.
  
  

  Anecdotal evidence when statistics have shown homeschooled kids do better on standardized tests like SAT/ACT than public school kids.
• O-Trap

  

  SportsAndLady;1793439 wrote:Why?

  At the time, in part because Judeo-Christian origins were fascinating to me.
  
  More specifically, because I found it odd that there was so little mention of it before the fall of the Neo-Babylonian Empire, yet so much of it during the Roman Empire. And since that location was the hotbed of religious and civil unrest among the Semitic people of the time, it seemed like the ideal place to focus. As one well-respected scholar on this topic put it, it's as though a train enters a tunnel carrying a certain amount of cargo, but then the train exits the tunnel with a lot more than it had when it entered. The obvious question is: Where did the extra cargo come from?
  
  Since I found this question interesting, I began to pursue it.
• QuakerOats

  sleeper;1793440 wrote:Yeah because that's what I said.

  Except no one is denying that the climate changes over vast time frames and always has.
• sleeper

  

  QuakerOats;1793520 wrote:Except no one is denying that the climate changes over vast time frames and always has.

  Right. However, only the stupid deny that human activities are causing the rate of climate change to reach catastrophic levels that we've never seen in Earth's history.
  
  There was an article out the other day from an Exxon executive talking about how Exxon knew it was contributing to climate change and they don't do anything about it to hold their profit steady.
  
  Once again, like those against gay marriage, equal rights for women and minorities, you will be on the wrong side of history.
• OSH

  

  Apple;1793429 wrote:Without the research of O-trap, I would also add religions have tended to collect a lot of money.
  
  Follow the money, even today with the climate change supporters.

  This is a more "modern" adaptation. For thousands of years, money wasn't all that invested in "religion." Sure, there were temples built and such. But, there were no true "paid, full-time" ministers/evangelists/preachers/etc.
  
  In biblical times, there was a tax (tithe) for the state religion. But, financially speaking, it's nowhere close to where "religion" has been over the last 50-100 years.
• QuakerOats

  sleeper;1793521 wrote:Right. However, only the stupid deny that human activities are causing the rate of climate change to reach catastrophic levels that we've never seen in Earth's history.

  
  
  ROFLMAO ............................ "we're all gonna die".
  
  
  Did you get a lifetime supply of kool-aid?
• Heretic

  

  QuakerOats;1793526 wrote:ROFLMAO ............................ "we're all gonna die".
  
  
  Did you get a lifetime supply of kool-aid?

  He didn't say, "I'm religious!", so probably not.
• sleeper

  

  QuakerOats;1793526 wrote:ROFLMAO ............................ "we're all gonna die".
  
  
  Did you get a lifetime supply of kool-aid?

  So what's your plan to deal with the acidification of oceans and the depleting Ozone layer? Let it ride and let millions of people suffer?
• Automatik

  

  sleeper;1793531 wrote:So what's your plan to deal with the acidification of oceans and the depleting Ozone layer? Let it ride and let millions of people suffer?

  He's old af, why should he care?
  
  Our children and grandchildren will be the ones dealing with it.
  
  See that piece about mass produced meat and the damage it's doing? Scary scary stuff.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  sleeper;1793531 wrote:So what's your plan to deal with the acidification of oceans and the depleting Ozone layer? Let it ride and let millions of people suffer?

  Yeah, the bleaching of the Great Barrier Reef doesn't matter. Meh. Just nature, let it happen.
• sleeper

  

  Automatik;1793532 wrote:He's old af, why should he care?
  
  Our children and grandchildren will be the ones dealing with it.
  
  See that piece about mass produced meat and the damage it's doing? Scary scary stuff.

  Classic boomer.