1st amendment in america stopped by north korea
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sleeper
Right because the US government told Sony, a Japanese company, to not release the film to restrict free speech for the American people.steubbigred;1687627 wrote:it is now open season for everybody to be threatened in this fashion.
free speech has been attacked by wicked people.
our founding fathers came to this land because of the oppression they endured at the hands of king george.
freedom of speech is the most basic and important right free thinking people have on this planet and it is something so many of our brave service men have fought and died for ...
if you are a veteran and did a tour in iraq or afghanastan as i have done then you know this is no joking manner .
sony and those actors capitulated and soon this will happen again . probably against a news organization or reporters with a large audience. -
GOONx19
*You'resteubbigred;1687663 wrote:i know what it means...i know what it was to see iraqi women beaten and tortured for the slightest of things .
you and that other clown live under the blanket of protection that people like me have sacrificed my very existence for.
what this was was an attack on freedom of expression with intimidation and scare tactics .
we are a sovereign nation with our own laws . we are not supposed to be under the thumb of a tiny countries ruthless regime.
laws were broken against an american corporation, and against american citizens ....laws .... do you understand that.......those people infringed on our basic human rights ... do you understand that ........... i think you do not comprehend very well ...
your very welcome from this service man for protecting your right to disagree with me no matter how wrong you are ......................... i wont break any laws against you for your expressions and rights .......when that happens that is unethical and unlawful... -
steubbigred
what on earth are you talking about............sleeper;1687665 wrote:Right because the US government told Sony, a Japanese company, to not release the film to restrict free speech for the American people.
my whole thing is people of the united states should stand up to ruthless dictators and not concede our basic american freedoms ....... that is all i am saying .......... by the way the north koreans broke laws ... they broke international laws against a sovereign nation which we are ..........
when you go to war and see bits and pieces of people blown to bits because of groups like the taliban or now isis then come back on here and argue against everything i say for the sake of arguing .........
some of you people are so stupid and are so disrespectful and have no clue. -
friendfromlowry
North Korea doesn't give a shit about American or international laws you stupid fuck.steubbigred;1687667 wrote:what on earth are you talking about............
my whole thing is people of the united states should stand up to ruthless dictators and not concede our basic american freedoms ....... that is all i am saying .......... by the way the north koreans broke laws ... they broke international laws against a sovereign nation which we are ..........
when you go to war and see bits and pieces of people blown to bits because of groups like the taliban or now isis then come back on here and argue against everything i say for the sake of arguing .........
some of you people are so stupid and are so disrespectful and have no clue. -
steubbigred
i do and we should ... i know they don't give a shit about laws so i guess we should just do what ever they want us to do you sorry ass coward punk .... go serve my country you sorry piece of shit .....you are another weak american ....... sooooorrrrryyyy that is what you arefriendfromlowry;1687668 wrote:North Korea doesn't give a shit about American or international laws you stupid fuck. -
GoChiefs
You're an idiot. Yea, let's make a big deal out of a fucking movie that our Government has zero to do with. Congrats. You went to war for our country. You've seen people die. We heard you the first time. Thanks. Now learn what the fuck the rights actually mean that you fought for.steubbigred;1687669 wrote:i do and we should ... i know they don't give a shit about laws so i guess we should just do what ever they want us to do you sorry ass coward punk .... go serve my country you sorry piece of shit .....you are another weak american ....... sooooorrrrryyyy that is what you are -
HitsRus
Let's clarify something here.
This is about a vicious cyberattack on Sony. The movie is inconsequential. Sony has every right to protect itself and its shareholders by pulling the movie if they feel it is in their interest to do so. They are not under any obligation to "stand up to terrorism".
The United States is looking into this attack as a general matter of national security. It is not about free speech or the movie. -
SportsAndLady
"Fought for"GoChiefs;1687670 wrote:You're an idiot. Yea, let's make a big deal out of a fucking movie that our Government has zero to do with. Congrats. You went to war for our country. You've seen people die. We heard you the first time. Thanks. Now learn what the fuck the rights actually mean that you fought for. -
GoChiefs
Hey, cooks are an important part of war too! The real soldiers have to eat.SportsAndLady;1687672 wrote:"Fought for" -
Wolves of Babylon
You are missing the point. You are right Sony has no obligation to show the movie. This was not a hack by anonymous or a 12 year old in his mom's basement. It was a hack from a Government. Then it was a message online from who knows who threatening 9/11 level attacks on US soil. So now a precedent has been set that any terrorists can just make random threats and get what they want.HitsRus;1687671 wrote:Let's clarify something here.
This is about a vicious cyberattack on Sony. The movie is inconsequential. Sony has every right to protect itself and its shareholders by pulling the movie if they feel it is in their interest to do so. They are not under any obligation to "stand up to terrorism".
The United States is looking into this attack as a general matter of national security. It is not about free speech or the movie.
News articles, movies, tv shows, books.. If it risks making someone mad, better not do it.
Let me also state I am 100% behind a company's right to do what they deem best for business but I don't have to agree with their decision and in this case I feel they were bullied and cowered. -
GoChiefs
Those communist bastards!!!!
Paramount orders Team America to stop being shown.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/12/18/paramount-bans-showing-team-america.html -
sleeper
Sony is a private company. The United States does not own Sony and if you want the government to have control of private companies you are no different than the thugs we are fighting against.steubbigred;1687667 wrote:what on earth are you talking about............
my whole thing is people of the united states should stand up to ruthless dictators and not concede our basic american freedoms ....... that is all i am saying .......... by the way the north koreans broke laws ... they broke international laws against a sovereign nation which we are ..........
when you go to war and see bits and pieces of people blown to bits because of groups like the taliban or now isis then come back on here and argue against everything i say for the sake of arguing .........
some of you people are so stupid and are so disrespectful and have no clue. -
lhslep134
You should take a good hard look in the mirror before saying stuff like this.steubbigred;1687667 wrote:
some of you people are so stupid and are so disrespectful and have no clue. -
lhslep134
You know why I'm thankful for every serviceman's service except for people like you? Because you think that just joining the military makes your completely misguided opinion about the world somehow more correct. Additionally, people like you continually rub in our faces your military service as some sort of argumentative trump card. Anyone who does that is not deserving of my respect. If you have to keep using your military service as justification for your spewing garbage and claiming it's gospel, then I truthfully don't give a flying fuck that you were overseas.steubbigred;1687663 wrote:
your very welcome from this service man for protecting your right to disagree with me no matter how wrong you are -
steubbigred
ty ty ty ty ty ty ty ty ty ty......Wolves of Babylon;1687675 wrote:You are missing the point. You are right Sony has no obligation to show the movie. This was not a hack by anonymous or a 12 year old in his mom's basement. It was a hack from a Government. Then it was a message online from who knows who threatening 9/11 level attacks on US soil. So now a precedent has been set that any terrorists can just make random threats and get what they want.
News articles, movies, tv shows, books.. If it risks making someone mad, better not do it.
Let me also state I am 100% behind a company's right to do what they deem best for business but I don't have to agree with their decision and in this case I feel they were bullied and cowered.
can the people who just like to argue for the sake of arguing read this now -
sleeper
Again, what is the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT supposed to do about a private company making a business decision?steubbigred;1687716 wrote:ty ty ty ty ty ty ty ty ty ty......
can the people who just like to argue for the sake of arguing read this now -
steubbigredlhslep134;1687714 wrote:You know why I'm thankful for every serviceman's service except for people like you? Because you think that just joining the military makes your completely misguided opinion about the world somehow more correct. Additionally, people like you continually rub in our faces your military service as some sort of argumentative trump card. Anyone who does that is not deserving of my respect. If you have to keep using your military service as justification for your spewing garbage and claiming it's gospel, then I truthfully don't give a flying fuck that you were overseas.
u r welcome anyway u bastard.... now go live in fienstiens district in california where you belong -
GoChiefs
Reps.lhslep134;1687714 wrote:You know why I'm thankful for every serviceman's service except for people like you? Because you think that just joining the military makes your completely misguided opinion about the world somehow more correct. Additionally, people like you continually rub in our faces your military service as some sort of argumentative trump card. Anyone who does that is not deserving of my respect. If you have to keep using your military service as justification for your spewing garbage and claiming it's gospel, then I truthfully don't give a flying fuck that you were overseas. -
steubbigred
sony made a business decision at gun point you idiot. it's about coercion ,intimidation and threatening the lives of american's ...... it is similar to what terrorists do when they hold a knife to a man's neck unless they get paid ....sleeper;1687718 wrote:Again, what is the UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT supposed to do about a private company making a business decision?
it is what somali pirates did to captain phillips .......... why are you so slow ...
some of you just want to be contrary against me for personal reasons .... you are in the minority on this topic .. just turn on cnn or fox news or any radio station .. -
lhslep134
There's nothing for me to be welcome for because I didn't thank you. You're just another meathead who doesn't understand how the 1st Amendment works. You preach your sacrifice for it, yet don't even know what it means.steubbigred;1687719 wrote:u r welcome anyway u bastard -
sleeper
You didn't answer my question. What is the US government supposed to do about a private company making a business decision?steubbigred;1687722 wrote:it made a business decision at gun point you idiot. it's about coercion ,intimidation and threatening the lives of american's ...... it is similar to what terrorists do when they hold a knife to a man's neck unless they get paid ....
it is what somali pirates did to captain phillips .......... why are you so slow ... -
GoChiefs
Turn North Korea into a wasteland!!!!!sleeper;1687725 wrote:You didn't answer my question. What is the US government supposed to do about a private company making a business decision? -
lhslep134
You need to stop calling people idiots until you take a long look in the mirror. Or just read your posts out loud to another human being and gauge their reaction.steubbigred;1687722 wrote:it made a business decision at gun point you idiot. .
And you still didn't answer his question of "what was the government supposed to do?" You keep spewing nonsense beating around the bush without answering his question. -
steubbigred
this is the point how can you all argue this point...Wolves of Babylon;1687675 wrote:You are missing the point. You are right Sony has no obligation to show the movie. This was not a hack by anonymous or a 12 year old in his mom's basement. It was a hack from a Government. Then it was a message online from who knows who threatening 9/11 level attacks on US soil. So now a precedent has been set that any terrorists can just make random threats and get what they want.
News articles, movies, tv shows, books.. If it risks making someone mad, better not do it.
Let me also state I am 100% behind a company's right to do what they deem best for business but I don't have to agree with their decision and in this case I feel they were bullied and cowered. -
GoChiefs
His point has nothing to do with the First Amendment.steubbigred;1687729 wrote:this is the point how can you all argue this point...