Peace out brothers
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jmog
As much as I think it is a douche move on whoever turned him in, there is one thing to keep in mind. The first amendment gives people the freedom of speech, which means the government can not stop you from saying stupid crap.lhslep134;1681009 wrote:You don't think? CC said some things online and now he could be in trouble with his employer. Seems like the 1st Amendment is applicable because he's a state employee (is his school private?).
However, the 1st Amendment does NOT give you freedom from consequences of saying stupid crap.
I can't walk into my boss's office and cuss him out and then say "freedom of speech b!tches, you can't fire me!".
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lhslep134
LOL I love reading comments from people who don't understand that. As you said, gov't action only.jmog;1681012 wrote:
I can't walk into my boss's office and cuss him out and then say "freedom of speech b!tches, you can't fire me!".
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queencitybuckeye
You're the lawyer, but my layman's understanding is that the 1st amendment isn't a blanket "get out of jail free card" for what one says. As you indicated, I tend to try to stay away from topics that either start or evolve into full retard status, so I have no idea what was said in most of the threads that the other poster provided links for. Assuming the worst, and that cc posted blatantly racist remarks, is possible action by his school board a legitimate reaction on their part? Disclaimer: My guess is most if not all of his "objectionable" posts were nothing but trolling.lhslep134;1681009 wrote:You don't think? CC said some things online and now he could be in trouble with his employer. Seems like the 1st Amendment is applicable because he's a state employee (is his school private?). -
saltoZWICK 4 PREZ;1680969 wrote:someone who knows CC reported him to what i'm assuming the school or school board referencing all his racist posts on here. he copied the report to this page and said he also notified the Dayton newspaper to make sure action was taken.
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saltoSnotBubbles;1680999 wrote: Because I can tell you right now that 50% of the shit I've posted over the years is in jest and not who I really am as a person. It's simply to make people laugh. Not many people on this board post or act like they do on here in real life. What's naivete is believing they do.
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SnotBubblesDespite how you feel about CC, his online persona is not who he is in real life. For one, no one is that idiotic (ha). I can tell you first hand that it's no fun when a message board and real life intersect, so I feel bad for him. I'm sure anxiety is kicking his ass right now.
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Fab1bThis is such BS that anyone was ratted out for posting here. If true and I was CC I'd do some head hunting!
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lhslep134
Correct. There must be some sort of state (gov't) action in response to (or anticipation of) your speech.queencitybuckeye;1681015 wrote:You're the lawyer, but my layman's understanding is that the 1st amendment isn't a blanket "get out of jail free card" for what one says.
The legal analysis is too fact intensive for me to answer that, even assuming the worst.queencitybuckeye;1681015 wrote: Assuming the worst, and that cc posted blatantly racist remarks, is possible action by his school board a legitimate reaction on their part? . -
ernest_t_bass
I fully believe that said/salto is as dumb, if not dumber, in real life.BR1986FB;1681004 wrote:but don't actually believe they could be as dumb/outrageous, as they post on here, in real life. -
queencitybuckeye
Not to nitpick, but I'd add the word "illegal" or "inappropriate" to your sentence. If jmog goes to work in the public sector, telling his boss to gfh is no more protected than if he does so today at his private sector employer.lhslep134;1681028 wrote:Correct. There must be some sort of state (gov't) action in response to (or anticipation of) your speech.
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lhslep134
Not a nitpick at all, I should have included the world "inappropriate."queencitybuckeye;1681032 wrote:Not to nitpick, but I'd add the word "illegal" or "inappropriate" to your sentence. -
BRF
If he was typing things that one might find offensive during his school hours, then he could get in trouble. Once he is ratted out, his superiors will probably read every single one of his posts, regardless of the time he made them.Curly J;1680998 wrote:I know you tried to take him under your wing, but it looks like he's balls deep this time. Hate to see it as I think it was a punk move. -
sportchamppsIt's going to be hard to read things that don't exist.
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ernest_t_bass
Yep. Many kudos and reps to Justin for doing this.sportchampps;1681051 wrote:It's going to be hard to read things that don't exist. -
BRF
Unless someone made copies.sportchampps;1681051 wrote:It's going to be hard to read things that don't exist. -
ernest_t_bass
Then someone would REALLY have it out for CC.BRF;1681059 wrote:Unless someone made copies. -
TedShecklerBRF;1681059 wrote:Unless someone made copies.
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Curly JBRF;1681059 wrote:Unless someone made copies.
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TedSheckler^^^How original.
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ccrunner906I personally don't think this situation is funny at all. Someone could of told ccrunner609 if they were offended personally by m̶y̶ ̶ his comments. They should of been more respectful, he educates children in gym.
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ernest_t_bass
Poor attempt.ccrunner906;1681075 wrote:I personally don't think this situation is funny at all. Someone could of told ccrunner609 if they were offended personally by m̶y̶ ̶ his comments. They should of been more respectful, he educates children in gym.
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Heretic
Which probably should be assumed unless proven otherwise. If someone went to the trouble of collecting a bunch of his posts and posting them together with the "I'm taking this to your district, the newspaper, etc." threat AND was serious about that BUT didn't have a back-up in the event CC or the site took everything down, well, they'd be about as intelligent as CC's persona on this site was.BRF;1681059 wrote:Unless someone made copies.
Fucked up situation. I disliked CC's on-site persona a lot and generally try to avoid any race-related topic as much as possible (there's always a weak moment or two where I click on one and get sucked in for a bit before I realize I'm starting to hate myself) because of his and a few others' personas here. But I'm more along the lines of making his life hell on this site for being how he is. Taking it and turning into real life stuff that could potentially be harmful to his personal and professional life is a good ways beyond that. -
TedSheckler
It's him! He's back!ccrunner906;1681075 wrote:Someone could of told ccrunner609 -
vdubb96
I lulz at that a bit.ernest_t_bass;1681078 wrote:Poor attempt. -
Curly JIf it can happen on Facebook, maybe it can happen in the OC. --> http://gawker.com/psycho-frames-ex-with-fake-racist-facebook-posts-1665418226/+emmacar