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ISIS beheads American Journalist

  • vball10set
    SportsAndLady;1646281 wrote:
    The IS, IMO, are religiously batshit crazy and truly believe in what they say because they are blindly following some bullshit god.

    When you let religion rule your world, weird shit happens.
    Yup
  • BR1986FB
    SportsAndLady;1646281 wrote:I highly doubt the IS are thinking "we can't defeat them but let's start some shit to get them to spend more money!!"
    Maybe not in that exact verbage but many of these terrorist cells' "goals" are to weaken the US through major financial expeditures on our part.
  • Fab1b
    Society I don't have a link but I'm a sick MF'er that sees these videos out of the Middle East posted daily
  • TedSheckler
  • thavoice
    BR1986FB;1646296 wrote:Maybe not in that exact verbage but many of these terrorist cells' "goals" are to weaken the US through major financial expeditures on our part.
    You are 100% correct BR. We just think of these guys as stupid camel jockeys who dont have a fucking clue, which is true in some sense, but they are very savvy in what they are trying to do. They know they wont be able to defeat us, but even Bin Ladin himself years and years ago said his goal was to bankrupt the US. In many ways, we dont give them enough credit in what they are attempting to do.

    They want us to spend our money, deplete our resources, to kill our troops and civilians. They want our boots on the ground to they can kill the infidel even though they realize we will kill more and more of them. They believe more in their cause than American's do ours. We cannot fathom the thought of going out and just killing people because of their religon and blowing people up, but that is all they have every known. They know America's attention span is short and no matter what happens the American people will eventually get bored with it, tired of the $$ spent and lives lost, and want to pull out and then they claim victory. When we leave Afghanistan they will claim victory just like when we left Iraq, and Vietnam.

    I have been in enough briefs and read enough classified shit to know that yes one of their goals, along with killing us, is to drain the economy. On 9/11 the lives that were lost, and the subsequent deaths in Afghanistan, was one victory that UBL was wanting but another one was the $$$ he cost this country.

    ISIS wants to spread their ideology, and they want to draw us back into the region to kill Americans, and they also know this comes at a big price tag and that is also a benefit.
  • gut
    DoD is a jobs program....According to Keynesians, what Bin Laden was doing is not financially destroying the US but stimulating our economy!
  • thavoice
    gut;1646320 wrote:DoD is a jobs program....According to Keynesians, what Bin Laden was doing is not financially destroying the US but stimulating our economy!
    It gave alot of people jobs that is for damned sure!
  • QuakerOats
    KB0938;1646227 wrote:Not defending as much as pointing out Bush did verrrry similar things but right wingers like to act like what hes doing is unheard of.

    Incorrect. Bush stopped golfing shortly after 9/11, permanently, for the remainder of his presidency, and said it just did not seem appropriate to be playing golf when Americans were fighting terrorism. While obama has played more golf this year than Tiger Woods. This is the same obama who said prior to the '08 election that sacrificing vacations and leisure time was part of deal with the people in assuming the job of the presidency. Obviously just another massive lie.
  • Heretic
    QuakerOats;1646327 wrote:Incorrect. Bush stopped golfing shortly after 9/11, permanently, for the remainder of his presidency, and said it just did not seem appropriate to be playing golf when Americans were fighting terrorism. While obama has played more golf this year than Tiger Woods. This is the same obama who said prior to the '08 election that sacrificing vacations and leisure time was part of deal with the people in assuming the job of the presidency. Obviously just another massive lie.
    http://usfinancepost.com/president-obamas-marthas-vineyard-trip-will-mark-141-days-of-vacationing-21570.html
    “But his 141 days out of Washington are far less than the 378 former President George W. Bush took in 57 trips to his Crawford, Texas, ranch at the five-and-a-half-year mark of his presidency, according to figures calculated by CBS White House Correspondent Mark Knoller, the unofficial historian and statistician of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue,” reports the Washington Examiner.
    Looks like he replaced golf with other forms of vacation, making your entire post the sort of empty rhetoric you tend to fall into whenever you try to move out of your comfort zone of posting links where other people did all the actual thinking.

    But nice try, even though, much like always, your ass was wrong.
  • thavoice
    My answer remains the same to the question of Presidents on vacation as I did when Pres Bush as getting bashed when he was in office....

    Just outside of camera shot is his complete team to fully be able to run the country in a seconds time. It isnt like when many of us go on vacation where we can totally ignore work, Presidents are pretty much on duty 24/7 no matter where they are.
  • iclfan2
    Good news!! Holder is opening up a criminal investigation into these "crimes" That's good. Heaven forbid they broke some laws. What a joke of an administration.
  • QuakerOats
    Heretic;1646339 wrote:http://usfinancepost.com/president-obamas-marthas-vineyard-trip-will-mark-141-days-of-vacationing-21570.html



    Looks like he replaced golf with other forms of vacation, making your entire post the sort of empty rhetoric you tend to fall into whenever you try to move out of your comfort zone of posting links where other people did all the actual thinking.

    But nice try, even though, much like always, your ass was wrong.


    The Crawford ranch was an office which was an extension of the White House office. He wasn't golfing every day when he wasn't in Hawaii or Martha's Vineyard.


    http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/11/flashback-obama-promises-no-vacations-for-himself-as-president-video/

    Obama
    : “uh umm, you give me this office and in turn my, fears, doubts, insecurities, foibles, need for sleep, family life, vacations, leisure is gone."



    But go on, keep defending the indefensible, and providing imbecilic commentary. Amusing, to say the least.
  • Heretic
    QuakerOats;1646384 wrote:The Crawford ranch was an office which was an extension of the White House office. He wasn't golfing every day when he wasn't in Hawaii or Martha's Vineyard.


    http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/11/flashback-obama-promises-no-vacations-for-himself-as-president-video/

    Obama
    : “uh umm, you give me this office and in turn my, fears, doubts, insecurities, foibles, need for sleep, family life, vacations, leisure is gone."



    But go on, keep defending the indefensible, and providing imbecilic commentary. Amusing, to say the least.
    "But...but...but when my guy does it, it's actual work. Not a vacation. Really, because I'm right!!!!"
  • QuakerOats
    The economy sucks, by every metric, the world is on fire, the administration is assaulting citizens and businesses, and your boy just wants to play golf.

    Why don't you just OWN IT !!
  • SportsAndLady
    Heretic;1646387 wrote:"But...but...but when my guy does it, it's actual work. Not a vacation. Really, because I'm right!!!!"
    I mean, QO is excessive, but he's right in that Bush had an actual branch of the White House in his Texas ranch. Obama is playing golf, and hanging out in Martha's Vineyard. Slight difference.
  • BR1986FB
    Frankly, I thought Bush sucked as a president but Obama is, by far, the WORST president in my lifetime. People say "the faster we get him out of here, the quicker we can fix this mess." I'm not so sure. He's fucked us REAL good....to the point where I don't know that it can be fixed.
  • Heretic
    SportsAndLady;1646402 wrote:I mean, QO is excessive, but he's right in that Bush had an actual branch of the White House in his Texas ranch. Obama is playing golf, and hanging out in Martha's Vineyard. Slight difference.
    True, there is a difference, but at least to me, the 2.5x the amount of vacation time somewhat balances it out. I know from personal experience and from that of friends that when any of us work from home, things definitely aren't done in quite the same way (like, it's sure the fuck not the same sort of 8-5 kind of day).

    It's just annoying to me to deal with blindly partisan dolts who completely blast one side for stuff they rationalize and make excuses for when it happens to the other side. At the very least, have the basic reasoning skills to admit both sides are in the wrong.

    Talking about beheading and then playing golf = wrong. Just like Hearing about 9/11 and then continuing with plans to read to children at elementary school = wrong. But partisan idiots like Quaker just act like one thing is a completely unprecedented and unheard of act of negligent wrongdoing, while brushing off the other as no biggie.

    I think anyone with a brain can say Obama hasn't been that much of a president and has backtracked on a lot of (if not all) good things he was promising in '08. But when you have guys like Quaker going over-the-top with hysteria every single day, it just dilutes things to the point where things he's fucking up of actual importance are getting overwhelmed by the sheer laundry list of random bullshit because someone apparently had to fill a quota for "things to bitch about" for every single day.
  • BR1986FB
    Heretic;1646415 wrote:True, there is a difference, but at least to me, the 2.5x the amount of vacation time somewhat balances it out. I know from personal experience and from that of friends that when any of us work from home, things definitely aren't done in quite the same way (like, it's sure the fuck not the same sort of 8-5 kind of day).

    It's just annoying to me to deal with blindly partisan dolts who completely blast one side for stuff they rationalize and make excuses for when it happens to the other side. At the very least, have the basic reasoning skills to admit both sides are in the wrong.

    Talking about beheading and then playing golf = wrong. Just like Hearing about 9/11 and then continuing with plans to read to children at elementary school = wrong. But partisan idiots like Quaker just act like one thing is a completely unprecedented and unheard of act of negligent wrongdoing, while brushing off the other as no biggie.

    I think anyone with a brain can say Obama hasn't been that much of a president and has backtracked on a lot of (if not all) good things he was promising in '08. But when you have guys like Quaker going over-the-top with hysteria every single day, it just dilutes things to the point where things he's fucking up of actual importance are getting overwhelmed by the sheer laundry list of random bullshit because someone apparently had to fill a quota for "things to bitch about" for every single day.
    I'll call out any POTUS. Granted, I'm more conservative in nature but some of my beliefs fall toward the Dem side. I thought the second Bush blew and I'm not going to sugarcoat that because I lean Republican. You do a good job, doesn't matter what party you're from imo. Just don't tax the shit out of me to give free handouts to people faking disabilities.
  • Heretic
    BR1986FB;1646417 wrote:I'll call out any POTUS. Granted, I'm more conservative in nature but some of my beliefs fall toward the Dem side. I thought the second Bush blew and I'm not going to sugarcoat that because I lean Republican. You do a good job, doesn't matter what party you're from imo. Just don't tax the shit out of me to give free handouts to people faking disabilities.
    To be honest, I'll be surprised when we have one that doesn't blow again. As a people, we've become a world of instant online gratification where anyone can be a pundit for an audience (blogs, sites like this, whatever) and can have their voice heard by more people then they could even 20-30 years ago. When it comes to politics, people are mean-spirited, divisive dickweeds, regardless of how chill they might be on other topics. So if you're running for a major office, you're going to have every single thing you say or do over-analyzed and torn apart.

    To me, that creates a scenario where a smart, qualified person would look at the environment and decide they don't want any part of that shitstorm. Leading us to get well-meaning guys who simply aren't qualified (Bush II) or savvy guys who are in it for the attention and fame (Obama).
  • TedSheckler
    Heretic;1646415 wrote: Talking about beheading and then playing golf = wrong. Just like Hearing about 9/11 and then continuing with plans to read to children at elementary school = wrong.
    How can you seriously compare these two things? You're really reaching to try to tie these things together.

    Bush read to the kids for 10 minutes as to not startle them, Obama is laughing on the golf course 10 minutes after talking about the beheading.
  • Heretic
    TedSheckler;1646450 wrote:How can you seriously compare these two things? You're really reaching to try to tie these things together.

    Bush read to the kids for 10 minutes as to not startle them, Obama is laughing on the golf course 10 minutes after talking about the beheading.
    First part reads like rationalization; second part reads like hyperbole. Unless you have pics of him on a golf course 10 minutes after and laughing.

    But you're right, comparing them is wrong. One was a horrific attack on our soil by terrorists; the other was one person overseas being graphically killed by terrorists. The severity of the two should not be compared.
  • TedSheckler
    Scroll up fella. Front cover of the Daily News I posted.
  • robj55
    QuakerOats;1646327 wrote:Incorrect. Bush stopped golfing shortly after 9/11, permanently, for the remainder of his presidency, and said it just did not seem appropriate to be playing golf when Americans were fighting terrorism. While obama has played more golf this year than Tiger Woods. This is the same obama who said prior to the '08 election that sacrificing vacations and leisure time was part of deal with the people in assuming the job of the presidency. Obviously just another massive lie.
    haha
  • BR1986FB
    LOVE this.....

    “As I sit here constantly hearing and watching you execute innocent men, women and children in the Middle East I chuckle. Why do I chuckle you may ask? Well let me explain something to you cowardice fools who think you are so tough behind all your propaganda videos. You are scaring a population that doesn’t know how to fight, you’re bullying the weak.

    You say Islam is the religion of peace, but since when does terrorizing the innocent and beheading men, women and children constitute peace? WTF? But keep in mind, what did Saddam’s troops do when we came rolling into town? They surrendered, twice… So all your empty threats of coming to America and raising your flag over the White House amuse me more than any of you sick, sadistic bastards could ever imagine or comprehend.

    In 2012 there was about 21.2 million veterans in the United States. Do you understand what that means? Let me break it down for you. That means there are literally millions of disgruntled, dysfunctional, pissed off veterans who have been dealing with years of abuse from their government stabbing them in the backs and having to watch their friends die because you Islamic extremist idiots can’t seem to act like normal human beings and stop terrorism and the violence.

    It’s one thing to take over an Islamic state, but if my memory serves me correctly, I’m pretty sure we plowed through Fallujah in 4 days. Better yet, it took us about month to control your entire country. At this point, with 13+ years of war under our belts, how long do you think it would take us to do it all over again? I’ll let you draw your own conclusions on that one. Do you really think you stand a chance on US soil? Do you really think it would be smart to poke that bear? Remember, never bite the hand that feeds you.

    Remember we are armed to the teeth in the US and I can promise you this… the Geneva Conventions will not apply to you. You attack us and there will be no mercy. We will bring the righteous hand of God down upon you and crush you. The ball is in your court now ISIS. We are more than ready to arrange your so called “meeting” with your 72 virgins and send you to your “prophet” Mohamed.”

    – Nick Powers

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/21/a-subtle-message-to-isis-from-ticked-off-military-veteran-should-send-a-chill-down-the-spine-of-every-terrorist/
  • TedSheckler
    That is a good letter. Too bad we have a spineless president that won't do anything about it. Oh, he'll fire some missiles from drones and call it a day. ISIS does not fear the United States, nor do they have a reason to. This administration is putting the justice department on the case. I'm sorry, this is a criminal case? No. This is terrorism, these people need wiped of the face of the Earth...and their goats.

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/army-colonel-knows-how-to-deal-with-isis-terrorists-once-and-for-all