Movie Shooting Ex-Cop
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DeyDurkie5Lol belly just made up a story to this incident. Wtf am I reading
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TedShecklerI don't know. I would think murder would supersede any illegally carrying charge. The will probably toss that. You would think that this would erase any Stand Your Ground defense he may have.
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DeyDurkie5My take...you have the right to carry a gun. You have the right to carry a phone. If you want to be that ass hole that texts during the movies so be it. But it doesn't justify shooting the man. Even if the guy threw popcorn at him it still doesnt. You don't end a person's life just because he "disrespected" you. That's what gives gun carriers a bad name.
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LJ
I know in Ohio the private "no guns" provision does not supersede your right to protect yourself, which includes the use of a gunTedSheckler;1567598 wrote:I don't know. I would think murder would supersede any illegally carrying charge. The will probably toss that. You would think that this would erase any Stand Your Ground defense he may have. -
DeyDurkie5
Just because you are old doesn't mean you deserve respect. Your mentality on life is awfulBelly35;1567554 wrote:Two good individuals goes to the movie. Light goes down announcing to turn off cell phone. Old guy calls out young guy about his usage of phone. Young guy being a good dad justifies his behavior to call daughter. Old guy mention that rules are rules after asking nicely to turn off phone. Please note that this is only previews and the announcement was made old guy again states only what is the rules. Young guy out with wife is now embarrassed and annoyed and to demonstrate superiorly over old guy and defenseless old guy proceeds to push what he justified as being a good dad over rules the theater / cell phone respect other right in public place. This old guy just did not pull out a 38, blow this young guy way on the sound of the keypad now did he? There was a leading up to the end event. Young guy under estimated old guy potential.
Young guy get aggressive ( young want to impress wife and justify his behavior is now going to tell old guy what right) aggressiveness increases because old guy is just old... Surprise old guy doesn't coward frustrating young guy more to the point old police guy is being physically threaten ... Boom bad day both wrong but both justified action.
what happen not right but even on the OC the mentality to disrespect older members is a good indicator of what happen at the movies..... -
LJ
The guy that was shot was a 42 year old ex-Navy. Its not even like it was some 20 yr old punkDeyDurkie5;1567602 wrote:Just because you are old doesn't mean you deserve respect. Your mentality on life is awful -
DeyDurkie5
Lol I know. Belly could be retardedLJ;1567603 wrote:The guy that was shot was a 42 year old ex-Navy. Its not even like it was some 20 yr old punk -
Lovejoy1984
Pretty sure with this topic, Could, went out the window.DeyDurkie5;1567604 wrote:Lol I know. Belly could be retarded -
Belly35
so you can't have a 42 year old depressed Navy punk?LJ;1567603 wrote:The guy that was shot was a 42 year old ex-Navy. Its not even like it was some 20 yr old punk
This is simple trying to Blame someone for their action does not compute... We have a dead good dad and a honorable retire police officer as a shooter. Something when to far quickly and the lives of two families will never be the same. That the sad truth.
Cell phones have been the weapon of killing many incident people this could be just another tragic story added to the list.
We need to license cell phones.... Where the Liberal call to ban cell phones -
DeyDurkie5
Nothing is honorable about the retired cop. NothingBelly35;1567611 wrote:so you can't have a 42 year old depressed Navy punk?
This is simple trying to Blame someone for their action does not compute... We have a dead good dad and a honorable retire police officer as a shooter. Something when to far quickly and the lives of two families will never be the same. That the sad truth.
Cell phones have been the weapon of killing many incident people this could be just another tragic story added to the list.
We need to license cell phones.... Where the Liberal call to ban cell phones -
LJ
Nope, just a nutjobDeyDurkie5;1567612 wrote:Nothing is honorable about the retired cop. Nothing
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/15/justice/florida-movie-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 -
DeyDurkie5
He is old, retired policeman, and a gun carrier so he must be honorableLJ;1567614 wrote:Nope, just a nutjob
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/15/justice/florida-movie-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 -
Lovejoy1984
Exactly. This guy was clearly a mole, ripped straight from Homeland.Belly35;1567611 wrote:
Cell phones have been the weapon of killing many incident people this could be just another tragic story added to the list.
We need to license cell phones.... Where the Liberal call to ban cell phones
Also pretty sure he was trying to detonate a bomb with his cell phone. Thank god for this brave patriot who took action and stopped the next terrorist attack. -
Fab4Runner
I know. Belly stated that the old man was simply telling the victim that he was breaking the rules. Rules are rules. It seems the shooter was breaking the rules as well. According to several articles, it was posted that no weapons are allowed in the theater.TedSheckler;1567593 wrote:Private businesses can still restrict firearms for retired and off duty officers under the LEOSA. If it was posted that they prohibit firearms on the premises, then he was carrying illegally. -
I Wear Pants
What's honorable about a murderer?Belly35;1567611 wrote:so you can't have a 42 year old depressed Navy punk?
This is simple trying to Blame someone for their action does not compute... We have a dead good dad and a honorable retire police officer as a shooter. Something when to far quickly and the lives of two families will never be the same. That the sad truth.
Cell phones have been the weapon of killing many incident people this could be just another tragic story added to the list.
We need to license cell phones.... Where the Liberal call to ban cell phones
A comment on NPR sums up my feeling about this pretty well:
I too dislike it when people use their phones in a movie theater. And I too have a hot temper that is easily irritated by people acting like jerks.
But the price of "acting a little bit like a jerk and texting during the previews" cannot be "Someone might murder you". Not if we want to cling to a thin veneer of civilization.
A little kid's dad went to the movies, and is never going to come home to her again. Think about that for two seconds. This isn't a soundbyte, this isn't a fun topic for gun people to argue into the ground. A man got murdered in a movie theater by exactly the kind of "good guy with a gun" we're supposed to feel good about. A woman woke up a wife and went to bed a widow. A little girl woke up with a daddy and went to bed without one.
I find it very upsetting that people respond to this story with variants of "Well, it's terrible, but you shouldn't text in movie theaters."
Come on, man. A family just plunged into the worst kind of tragedy. Have a little compassion. -
rmolin73
So someone checking in on their daughter at the sitters makes them a punk? Just stop posting.Belly35;1567611 wrote:so you can't have a 42 year old depressed Navy punk?
This is simple trying to Blame someone for their action does not compute... We have a dead good dad and a honorable retire police officer as a shooter. Something when to far quickly and the lives of two families will never be the same. That the sad truth.
Cell phones have been the weapon of killing many incident people this could be just another tragic story added to the list.
We need to license cell phones.... Where the Liberal call to ban cell phones -
TedShecklerSeriously Belly, STFU. You're making yourself look like even more of a retard by saying the cop had some sort of justification.
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queencitybuckeye
Sums up my feelings on the subject as well. Thanks for posting it.I Wear Pants;1567620 wrote:What's honorable about a murderer?
A comment on NPR sums up my feeling about this pretty well: -
vball10setThis thread is starting to resemble the one regarding the Steubenville rape case where FWK was saying it was the victim's fault for getting raped. Belly, please stop. Please.
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Fly4FunNothing I could add about Belly's ridiculous posts that hasn't been already said.
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pmoney25Just want to say I have no clue what the fuck is going on in this thread.
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dlazz
The start to a bad ending was when you posted your moronic views in this thread.Belly35;1567539 wrote:The start to a bad ending. -
Lovejoy1984
Belly has more or less said talking or playing on your cell phone in a movie theater = being shot.pmoney25;1567663 wrote:Just want to say I have no clue what the fuck is going on in this thread.
You're caught up now. -
Bio-Hazzzzard
It's illegal carrying stated in the state of FL CC law in the designated locations stated in the articles of the CC law , but obviously to most of us this man utilized an extremely lame excuse for using his weapon.LJ;1567595 wrote:Does Florida consider it illegally carrying a concealed weapon or trespassing? Its trespassing in Ohio, but only on your second offense.
I looked in my FL CC law book and it states that "A public or private employer is prohibited from discriminating against an employee or expelling a customer or licensee for exercising their rights to keep and bear arms as long as the weapon is never exhibited except for defensive purposes"
I'm reading this as he had every right to be carrying the gun at the theater even though they have a no weapons policy in place, regardless the man's an idiot. -
TiernanBelly - even as another old guy I can't help ya here buddy...you're dead wrong. No pun intended.