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Knockout game...can someone explain why this one is a 'hate crime'?

  • jmog
    Can someone please explain why a white idiot knocking out an old black man is a 'hate crime' but a black idiot knocking out an old white man, white lady, whatever, is not a 'hate crime'?

    If anyone can please explain the difference I would love to hear it.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/26/knockout-game-suspect-charged-with-hate-crime-by-justice-department/?intcmp=latestnews
  • TedSheckler
    Eric Holder's fingers are all over this. It's pretty obvious why THIS one is a hate crime.

    According to Eric Holder, blacks are utterly incapable of hate crimes here in Obamanation.
  • queencitybuckeye
    Because people point out equivalence and pretend it's the same thing as equality?
  • jmog
    Oh, I do have to add one thing.

    I do believe the idea of a 'hate crime' is stupid, if I commit a crime against you I obviously don't like you or in fact I 'hate' you. So adding the label is just stupid.

    Secondly, if this was a lone incident, meaning the 'knockout game' did not exist in it's current state, and a white dude visciously attacked an old black man. I could honestly see the 'hate crime' label and prosecution even if I don't agree with it. The label would most definitely fit under current laws.

    However, given the background of the 'knockout game', especially with a majority of it being black kids being the perpetrators (and a good portion of their victims being white) how is the one major incident of it where a stupid white kid attacks a black man a 'hate crime' and none of the others are?

    It makes no logical sense, I just want someone who believes in 'hate crimes' to defend this prosecution.

    Don't get me wrong, the kid deserves to go to jail, I am NOT disputing that at all. I just question the addition of it being a 'hate crime'.
  • TedSheckler
    jmog;1557846 wrote:Don't get me wrong, the kid deserves to go to jail, I am NOT disputing that at all. I just question the addition of it being a 'hate crime'.
    FEDERAL hate crime.
  • Mohican00
    ITT: angry white guys upset that a double standard exists
  • rmolin73
    Wait he can't get off because of "Affluenza"?
  • like_that
    Im waiting for gblock's opinion.
  • iclfan2
    The whole idea of a "hate crime" is stupid.
  • rmolin73
    Well it looks like the guy got the attention he was asking for.
  • jmog
    rmolin73;1557950 wrote:Wait he can't get off because of "Affluenza"?
    Trust me, I was pissed about that BS ruling as well. That kid should have been in jail for a long time.

    However, that has nothing to do with this case. Feel free to explain why this is a hate crime but when it is an African American teen playing knock out on a Caucasian it is not a hate crime? Explain the difference.
  • isadore
    Maybe because this idiot premeditated the attack saying on video
    '"The plan is to see if I were to hit a black person, would this be nationally televised?"
    https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADRA_enUS385US385&q=diagnose
  • rmolin73
    jmog;1558086 wrote:Trust me, I was pissed about that BS ruling as well. That kid should have been in jail for a long time.

    However, that has nothing to do with this case. Feel free to explain why this is a hate crime but when it is an African American teen playing knock out on a Caucasian it is not a hate crime? Explain the difference.
    Consider that sarcasm. I've said all along that the other cases involving blacks assaulting whites should be labeled as hate crimes. This guy was looking for attention and he's getting it. There are double standards in this country and some people act as if they're shocked about them.
  • raiderbuck
    isadore;1558091 wrote:Maybe because this idiot premeditated the attack saying on video
    '"The plan is to see if I were to hit a black person, would this be nationally televised?"
    https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADRA_enUS385US385&q=diagnose

    Well, there's your answer.
  • rmolin73
    raiderbuck;1558133 wrote:Well, there's your answer.
    Don't you know that Obama and Holder specifically requested this to be a hate crime?
  • raiderbuck
    rmolin73;1558137 wrote:Don't you know that Obama and Holder specifically requested this to be a hate crime?
    Can't tell if this is sarcasm or truth (haven't been following this story that closely). But in any case, it's enough to get him charged, but I don't know about a conviction. I could see it if he used the racial slur in the same video where he hit the old guy, or if he went on some crazy white power manifesto beforehand. I view hate crimes as attacks on people solely based upon the hatred of that person's race/sexual preference. Being upset that a double standard exists isn't the same as attacking someone because of their race.
  • Mohican00
    rmolin73;1558137 wrote:Don't you know that Obama and Holder specifically requested this to be a hate crime?
    Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson both held press conferences condemning this hate crime
  • rmolin73
    Mohican00;1558166 wrote:Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson both held press conferences condemning this hate crime
    Lol what else would you expect those two clowns to do?
  • hasbeen
    isadore;1558091 wrote:Maybe because this idiot premeditated the attack saying on video
    '"The plan is to see if I were to hit a black person, would this be nationally televised?"
    https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADRA_enUS385US385&q=diagnose
    Doesn't make it a hate crime. It means that he was right. If the races were reversed, I don't see it getting this publicity.
  • isadore
    hasbeen;1558223 wrote:Doesn't make it a hate crime. It means that he was right. If the races were reversed, I don't see it getting this publicity.
    gosh you got him purposely selecting a member of another race to attack and saying that on video.
    Are there examples of black assailants selecting white victims and saying that on video?
  • rmolin73
    hasbeen;1558223 wrote:Doesn't make it a hate crime. It means that he was right. If the races were reversed, I don't see it getting this publicity.
    He made the decision to broadcast what he was going to do and now his dumb ass has to deal with the consequences. He'll probably get minimal if any time lol.
  • gut
    white or black these should be prosecuted as hate crimes every chance they get

    I don't see what all the fuss is - sounds like this thug deserves the charge.
  • rmolin73
    TedSheckler;1557842 wrote:Eric Holder's fingers are all over this. It's pretty obvious why THIS one is a hate crime.

    According to Eric Holder, blacks are utterly incapable of hate crimes here in Obamanation.
    ccrunner609;1557843 wrote:I am sure that the racist government officials (Holder and Obama) were just waiting for something like this.
    gut;1558311 wrote:white or black these should be prosecuted as hate crimes every chance they get

    I don't see what all the fuss is - sounds like this thug deserves the charge.
    The two posts above are why there is such a fuss.
  • TedSheckler
    I think this thug should get nailed too. What's not clear is why this guy deserves federal charges and the others don't.
  • rmolin73
    TedSheckler;1558314 wrote:I think this thug should get nailed too. What's not clear is why this guy deserves federal charges and the others don't.
    I thought it was pretty obvious?