Would you drug test your kid

• dlazz

  I don't have a vagina anymore, but I heard that birth control has several other perks than just birth control. More regular cycles and a reduced risk of some kind of cancer.
• said_aouita

  

  dlazz;1536415 wrote:I don't have a vagina anymore.

  What happened to the one ya did have?
• dlazz

  said_aouita;1536418 wrote:What happened to the one ya did have?

  Obama...SMH.
• O-Trap

  

  dlazz;1536415 wrote:I don't have a vagina anymore, but I heard that birth control has several other perks than just birth control. More regular cycles and a reduced risk of some kind of cancer.

  It can also cause hormonal imbalances, as well, though.
  
  It, like many others, has its pros and cons.
• dlazz

  O-Trap;1536420 wrote:It can also cause hormonal imbalances, as well, though.

  Women are hormonal imbalanced anyways. I think that's what makes them all crazy.
• O-Trap

  

  dlazz;1536422 wrote:Women are hormonal imbalanced anyways. I think that's what makes them all crazy.

  Fucking reps.
• TexasDeck

  

  I say yes to drug testing kids and most parents these days. It is better to catch them early and maybe have a chance to stop it before it cost someone their life. I figure if a kid has nothing to hide they won't mind being tested a couple times a year
• O-Trap

  

  TexasDeck;1536588 wrote:I say yes to drug testing kids and most parents these days. It is better to catch them early and maybe have a chance to stop it before it cost someone their life. I figure if a kid has nothing to hide they won't mind being tested a couple times a year

  This works if, and only if, those managing the testing, as well as their line of superiors, can forever be trusted to always be honest and benevolent.
  
  To quote Cardinal Richelieu, "If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged."
  
  That is to say that even if a person has nothing to hide, it doesn't stand to reason that someone else wouldn't desire to, and be able to, either find something worth hiding or plant something worth hiding.
  
  Think along the plot lines of movies like Minority Report, Enemy of the State, The Fugitive, The Negotiator, etc.
  
  Now, these are just movies, of course. But the fact that framing of innocence like this can exist within the culture's plausibility structure is reason enough to not approve the framework that harbors the potential for such events. We do, after all, have plenty of examples of politicians being caught doing things they are not supposed to do, and I don't think it would surprise anyone if we were to learn that someone else was blamed for the actions of someone with authority.
  
  So long as those put into positions of authority at any level are fallible, I'd just as soon they have as little power as possible, and I'd suggest that the right to randomly drug test falls outside the grounds of necessary authority.
• TexasDeck

  

  O-Trap;1536592 wrote:This works if, and only if, those managing the testing, as well as their line of superiors, can forever be trusted to always be honest and benevolent.To quote Cardinal Richelieu, "If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged."That is to say that even if a person has nothing to hide, it doesn't stand to reason that someone else wouldn't desire to, and be able to, either find something worth hiding or plant something worth hiding.Think along the plot lines of movies like Minority Report, Enemy of the State, The Fugitive, The Negotiator, etc.Now, these are just movies, of course. But the fact that framing of innocence like this can exist within the culture's plausibility structure is reason enough to not approve the framework that harbors the potential for such events. We do, after all, have plenty of examples of politicians being caught doing things they are not supposed to do, and I don't think it would surprise anyone if we were to learn that someone else was blamed for the actions of someone with authority.So long as those put into positions of authority at any level are fallible, I'd just as soon they have as little power as possible, and I'd suggest that the right to randomly drug test falls outside the grounds of necessary authority.

  I can agree with you your entire post. I was thinking more along the lines of drug testing your child at home, using one of the home drug test.
• O-Trap

  

  TexasDeck;1536595 wrote:I can agree with you your entire post. I was thinking more along the lines of drug testing your child at home, using one of the home drug test.

  Oh, I gotcha. Sorry. I misunderstood.
  
  Yes, I'm okay with testing at home. I guess I probably wouldn't do it unless I was given reason to be suspicious (if my child has earned trust, I would like to think I'd give it to him), but I'm also okay with testing if a parent thinks it necessary.
• Ghmothwdwhso

  Pick6;1535787 wrote:Don't see how you can say no. I'd say every parent probably has no intention to, but you never know what situation could come up.

  I say no. I think I have raised my kid to make good decisions. If He/She decided to partake in drugs, that is their choice, and they will have to deal with the consequenses.
  
  My intervention will not teach them to make good decisions on their own. (Que..pushing from the nest, preparing them for building their own nest).
• Pick6

  

  Ghmothwdwhso;1536603 wrote:I say no. I think I have raised my kid to make good decisions. If He/She decided to partake in drugs, that is their choice, and they will have to deal with the consequenses.
  
  My intervention will not teach them to make good decisions on their own. (Que..pushing from the nest, preparing them for building their own nest).

  I've had a pretty close friend in high school completely ruin her life with addiction to narcotics. She has been in and out of prison numerous times, and she is only 22. Her life is completely ruined. Honestly would not be surprised if she was found dead along side of the road one day. Based on personal experiences, no matter how well I think I may have raised my kid, if there is reason to believe they are doing something that could completely ruin their lives, you can guarantee I am stepping in.
  
  The first time you try a drug, you can blame decision making. But if you try it, there is a chance you an become addicted, and addiction isn't really a choice.
• Tiernan

  Tested all of mine when they did stupid shit and glad I did.
  
  And all of them laugh and say they are glad I did too...now.
• hasbeen

  

  Yes I would if I felt it necessary.
  
  True story: I pissed in a cup for a friend.
• hang_loose

  ^^^I wanted to hasbeen, you lobbed it up but I'm not swinging.^^^
• hasbeen

  

  hang_loose;1537169 wrote:^^^I wanted to hasbeen, you lobbed it up but I'm not swinging.^^^

  don't be scared!