Redskins Name Change

• sleeper

  

  Raw Dawgin' it;1526705 wrote:Didn't Vikings rape women and kill entire villages?

  They likely did this to white people so its okay.
• thavoice

  Raw Dawgin' it;1526705 wrote:Didn't Vikings rape women and kill entire villages?

  I am pretty sure they just had a sex boat party with prostitutes
• TedSheckler

  

  He should just change the name to the Washington Smallpox Blankets.
• sleeper

  

  Actually he should change the name to the Washington Whiteskins so minorities can stop complaining about everything.
• OSH

  

  Raw Dawgin' it;1526707 wrote:Name comes from Boston tea party when they were the Boston redskins. Back when people called indians redskins and it wasn't racist. Just like the term colored and negro used to be acceptable. Most people associate Redskin with the NFL.

  If the name comes from the Boston Tea Party, then why do they use a Native American in EVERYTHING?
  
  Even then, the term "redskin" is known to be associated with Native Americans. No one uses "gay" as happy anymore, and it is all but removed from the English language as meaning "happy." Everyone attributes "gay" to homosexuality.
  
  The term "redskin" has always been racist...but again, not for anything dealing with the color of the skin. It was a term used as a bounty for people who got a reward for bringing back the "red skin" of a dead Native American. Ask any Native American "back in the day" and they'll definitely not appreciate the term. Most Natives still don't like the term -- yes, I understand what studies show about the team -- but no one would call a Native a "redskin" today.
  

  HitsRus;1526754 wrote:The only people who complain about stereotypes are those with political axes to grind, and hence they get a forum to advance their agenda. It is a shame that people are so easily suckered into believing that these 'depictions' actually contribute to continuing discrimination.

  I think this is far from the truth. Many people advocating against the term want to do away with injustice and racial hatred/stereotypes. Would the people who complained about slavery also be those that had "political axes to grind?" Slavery was discrimination...but yet people fought it. And those that fought it were not the ones that were slaves or held slaves. It was the people who saw it was wrong (on many fronts) and discriminatory.
  
  It's completely wrong to depict Native Americans as "braves" or "scalpers" or "red faces" or "warriors." They are just regular people. They are also regular people who were slaughtered and pushed away for no reason.
  
  There's no need for this:
  
  
• reclegend22

  

  The last picture is fucking great. Thanks for the laugh.
  
  But no, the name of the team should not be changed.
• HitsRus

  

  
  
  no problem..........no problem.......no problem.....
  
  
  
  
  BIG problem???? WTF?
• steubbigred

  I'm waiting for a group representing the Somali pirates to file suit against the Pittsburgh Pirate orannization.
• Ironman92

  

  I was a Fighting Quaker for a short time. Very offensive.
• steubbigred

  sleeper;1526856 wrote:They likely did this to white people so its okay.

  White people are all the scum of the earth . They are not human so they deserve no rights . It's fashionable to hate white people especially, if you are white .
• 1_beast

  

  justincredible;1526546 wrote:I think Dan Snyder should be free to do as he pleases with the name of the team.

  I think this place should change it's name. As an "Ohio Native" I find the name of this site offensive.
• QuakerOats

  If they go with 'Scalpers' they will probably make the playoffs.
  
  
  Otherwise, the libtards need to deal with it.
• majorspark

  

  sleeper;1526923 wrote:Actually he should change the name to the Washington Whiteskins so minorities can stop complaining about everything.

  This would not work either. It would be seen as favoritism to whites and exclusionary to those of other skin "colors".
• sleeper

  

  majorspark;1527072 wrote:This would not work either. It would be seen as favoritism to whites and exclusionary to those of other skin "colors".

  I was literally just about to post this. You can't win with minorities; they never stop complaining about everything skin related. I guess if my life sucked I'd complain all the time too especially about pointless topics like skin color.
• bases_loaded

  

  The government loves distractions. Indians have been bitching for decades about the name, now the govt is taking heat on immigration, spying, economy, etc. so let's make an issue on a fucking name.
• enigmaax

  OSH;1526949 wrote:They are also regular people who were slaughtered and pushed away for no reason.

  Natives slaughtered other natives over land all the time. It was the same reason for everyone involved, white guys just happened to be better, so naturally, white guys are terrible.
• Tiernan

  Would the Washington Thuggers be more representative of the 80% black population of our nation's Capitol?
• Trueblue23

  

  Con_Alma;1526552 wrote:Normally I would agree but when you are a franchise you also have to have the blessing of the franchisor.
  
  The business operations itself, however, should make/keep the name whatever the heck they want it to be...offensive or not. The patrons will either accept it or not.

  There is no franchisor. NFL teams operate independently and only adhere to NFL "rules" to get their share of the league revenue.
• gut

  I say change it when the Fighting Irish change their name.
  
  But at some point Dan Snyder may look at all the $$$ that would come from changing the name and fans having to buy all new gear.
• gut

  Change the name to just "Skins" and make the mascot a golfer :RpS_flapper:
• OSH

  

  HitsRus;1526988 wrote:no problem..........no problem.......no problem.....
  
  BIG problem???? WTF?

  Does this do anything for that?
  

  A leprechaun isn’t a real person, and there’s not a contemporary community of Leprechauns who are undergoing active colonialism and actively fighting misrepresentations. I totally feel for all those leprechauns living in poverty while the US government continues to systematically marginalize them through ongoing policies that ignore their inherent sovereignty and Indigenous rights to the land. While the Irish may have had a history of oppression in the US, no one can argue that they are still marginalized or would be categorized as anything other than part of the majority culture.

• Laley23

  

  Ive never understood what is offensive about it?
  
  So the mascots used in sports are sometimes cartooned a bit...who cares? They wouldnt be using your name as a mascot if they didnt think you were "tough, scary, hard working, etc". Its much more of a compliment to these tribes and other groups than discriminatory.
  
  No one in sports is poking fun at the tribes. They arent making fun of their existence. They arent making fun of the way you live or lived. Its literally because its a cartooned picture or the name is slang??? Is that it? Would all the natives be happy if the Indians changed Chief Wahoo to a dark brown and didnt have the big eyes and smile? Just a normal drawing of an "indian"? Would that magically make it all better? Cause that is the only thing they are doing that is considered offensive...
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  Laley23;1527278 wrote:Ive never understood what is offensive about it?
  
  So the mascots used in sports are sometimes cartooned a bit...who cares? They wouldnt be using your name as a mascot if they didnt think you were "tough, scary, hard working, etc". Its much more of a compliment to these tribes and other groups than discriminatory.
  
  No one in sports is poking fun at the tribes. They arent making fun of their existence. They arent making fun of the way you live or lived. Its literally because its a cartooned picture or the name is slang??? Is that it? Would all the natives be happy if the Indians changed Chief Wahoo to a dark brown and didnt have the big eyes and smile? Just a normal drawing of an "indian"? Would that magically make it all better? Cause that is the only thing they are doing that is considered offensive...

  Indian is also slag and offensive. They're not from India, Columbus was a huge idiot.
  
  I think they should be the Zulus
  
  
• HitsRus

  

  A leprechaun isn’t a real person

  So the name of the team is "Fighting Leprechauns"?
  
  

  who are undergoing active colonialism and actively fighting misrepresentations. I totally feel for all those leprechauns living in poverty while the US government continues to systematically marginalize them through ongoing policies that ignore their inherent sovereignty and Indigenous rights to the land.

  
  
  thank you for proving my point about the real reason that this is an issue....that this group has a political ax to grind and it's a great way to accomplish their agenda.
  
  

  While the Irish may have had a history of oppression in the US, no one can argue that they are still marginalized or would be categorized as anything other than part of the majority culture.

  The name "Fighting Irish" officially dates back to 1927...but dates back to the origins of the Universityof Notre Dame in the early-mid 1800's....and was every bit part of the "history" of Irish oppression". The difference now...is that the Irish have assimilated into the country....all of this DESPITE the popularization of this characture.
  
  I am exactly right when I say that some liberal college professor filled your head with guilt.
• Gblock

  sleeper;1527089 wrote:I was literally just about to post this. You can't win with minorities; they never stop complaining about everything skin related. I guess if my life sucked I'd complain all the time too especially about pointless topics like skin color.

  
  as usual you are the only one complaining..we get it..it sucks to be white..poor white people...11 posts later no one cares move on. you gotta get over it dude and try to find some joy in life