Breaking Bad: Final Season Discussion

• gut

  wes_mantooth;1483043 wrote:Kinda crazy to think that he was supposed to be killed off early on...considering how popular he is

  He's turned out to be an excellent actor. If you consider the character arcs of Walt and Jesse, it has to be two of the tougher roles on tv.
• gut

  ZWICK 4 PREZ;1483032 wrote:Walt already said it doesn't end well for him in an interview. Vince Gilligan said he cried writing the final episode.

  That's why I think it's the worst possible outcome for Walt...and I think there are scenarios worse than death.
  
  And in the end, I still think Walt is a coward that has done almost everything out of necessity and/or desperation. I don't think he has the stones to eat his gun or go out in a blaze of glory.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  wes_mantooth;1483043 wrote:Kinda crazy to think that he was supposed to be killed off early on...considering how popular he is

  [video=youtube;dI7sxVPu-YQ][/video]
• Me?

  

  Walt is going to die. This is one of my favorite shows ever, and I'll be thoroughly disappointed if Walt is alive in the end. It's set up for him to die since the first episode.
  
  That being said, I think these last 8 episodes will be a blood bath.
• gut

  Me?;1483053 wrote: That being said, I think these last 8 episodes will be a blood bath.

  I can't really see a blood bath unless Gustavo's cartel gets involved. I think that's really flown under the radar - remember the Mexican cartel would not touch Gustavo because of his connections to Cartagena (just guessing?). They most likely know who Walt is, and if they don't come after him for Gustavo (which I think they would eventually figure out) they will come after him simply to get their cut of his business.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  Me?;1483053 wrote:Walt is going to die. This is one of my favorite shows ever, and I'll be thoroughly disappointed if Walt is alive in the end. It's set up for him to die since the first episode.
  
  That being said, I think these last 8 episodes will be a blood bath.

  Homeland was set up for Brody to die since ep.1 yet he didn't.
• Iliketurtles

  

  gut;1483057 wrote:I can't really see a blood bath unless Gustavo's cartel gets involved. I think that's really flown under the radar - remember the Mexican cartel would not touch Gustavo because of his connections to Cartagena (just guessing?). They most likely know who Walt is, and if they don't come after him for Gustavo (which I think they would eventually figure out) they will come after him simply to get their cut of his business.

  I think Walt dies in the end and this is how. I don't think anyone who is left in the Mexican cartel(whatever is left from them) know who Walt is but will figured it out and come to kill him.
  
  Also I think Hank will be there when Walt dies and either will run from it or end up also dying trying to save him. I'm going with Hank also dies.
  
  I agree that I don't see Walt flipping on Jesse and no way Walt ends up in jail. Also I really hope is doesn't have a Sporano's ending that would be the worst.
• gut

  Iliketurtles;1483073 wrote:I think Walt dies in the end and this is how. I don't think anyone who is left in the Mexican cartel(whatever is left from them) know who Walt is but will figured it out and come to kill him.
  
  Also I think Hank will be there when Walt dies and either will run from it or end up also dying trying to save him. I'm going with Hank also dies.
  
  I agree that I don't see Walt flipping on Jesse and no way Walt ends up in jail. Also I really hope is doesn't have a Sporano's ending that would be the worst.

  I came to love the Sopranos ending - probably much more after reading numerous analyses and multiple viewings. A lot of symbolism and foreshadowing that you don't pick-up on from a casual viewing.
  
  I don't think the Mexican cartel know who Walt is, and Gustavo took out all of the capo's. I don't think they'd have much of a beef that Walt killed Gus. The Cartegena cartel, however, probably know who Gus is and would figure out no one left in the Mexican cartel had the power/influence and technical expertise to pull that hit off.
  
  I might be forgetting some chronology, but the latest group of crazy thugs Walt has aligned himself with (the ones that pulled off all the jail hits) might finally get the better of him. But that's probably too simple and easy for this show, even if it's the most realistic conclusion (eventually you roll the dice too many times).
• Fab4Runner

  

  I highly recommend everyone read this article. It sheds some light on Bryan Cranston, the character of Walt, and also has information about Vince Gilligan and the end of the series.
  
  http://www.gq.com/entertainment/celebrities/201308/bryan-cranston-walter-white-breaking-bad-season-6
  

  Maybe I'm too close to it, but I think these final eight episodes have a real chance of satisfying...not everybody—there's no way to satisfy every last viewer—but the bulk of our viewers," Gilligan says. "I certainly hope so. They satisfy me, and that's saying a lot."
  
  The Breaking Bad writers' room was known as one of the more collaborative in television. ("The worst thing the French ever gave us was the auteur theory," Gilligan said. "It's horseshit.") That spirit applied even to crafting The End, the exact nature of which was undecided for longer than you might expect. "A lot was still in play. You'd be surprised at how much," he says. "There were moments that we thought would be very provocative and evocative and interesting, but we didn't know their exact full meaning yet. We figured we'd make it up later."
  
  As had happened several times over the course of seasons, the group had set themselves a destination—in the first episode of season five, a flash-forward, we see Walt far from home, with a full head of hair, on his fifty-second birthday—without a clear sense of how they were going to get there. Think of it as Chekhov, with his imprecation about guns appearing in the first act needing to be fired by the third, as hair-raising hedge against writer's block. In this case, the gun was entirely literal: an M60 assault weapon in Walt's trunk.
  
  Endings have been among the most contentious aspects of this golden age of cable drama: from the open-ended (The Sopranos) to the generally disappointing (season five of The Wire) to the shows that have not been allowed an ending at all (Deadwood). For Breaking Bad, which always had the tightest narrative intent of all these shows, getting it right may even be more important. The result, not to put too fine a point on it, will determine where the show ultimately ranks in the discussion of the best ever on TV.
  
  "People have been asking me if I'm nervous," Cranston says. "I say, 'No, I'm fine. But go see Vince—he's tearing his hair out.'"
  
  "We sat around this table talking about every possible kind of ending," Gilligan says. "Sometimes you start talking really macro. Like, 'What kind of responsibility do we have to find a moral in all this?' 'Is this a just universe that he lives in, or is it a chaotic universe which is more in keeping with the one we seem to live in?' 'Is there really karma in the world? Or is it just that the mechanisms, the clockwork, of the universe is so huge and subtle in its operation that we don't see karma happening?' We talk about all that stuff, and then, at a certain point, you stop and say, 'Let's just tell a good story.'"
  
  The writers spent hours discussing the endings of other series, of movies, of books. Surprise or innovation wasn't necessarily the criteria. "I keep coming back to M*A*S*H," Gilligan continues. "From the first episode, these people sit around and say, 'All I want to do is go home.' So of course they all get to go home in the final episode. Sometimes the best moment in a TV show is an unpredictable moment, but sometimes it's actually being predictable."
  By that measure, for those obsessed with guessing ahead, it may be worthwhile to remember Breaking Bad's first principles, the nature of the project—charting a man's free fall into the hell of his own worst impulses. And to count the number of endings free falls usually have.

• gut

  Fab4Runner;1483085 wrote:... And to count the number of endings free falls usually have.

  I think, given that Vince Gilligan supposedly cried over how it ends, we can probably eliminate most of those scenarios. To me that suggests a major plot development and/or some sort of major catharthis/enlightenment from Walt (i.e. they "save" him before they kill him).
• Manhattan Buckeye

  Well there isn't satisfying everybody. Obviously the Sopranos finale was controversial. The Wire's 5th season was certainly the worst of the series (but still ended on a high note). I think the writers and production team can pull off a great ending. Again, last season's had its ups and downs, and if the series ended the previous year it would have been an epic ending to a series - but people wanted to see more and they got it.
• mucalum49

  

  Still think Skylar or Jesse will end up killing Walt. Skylar has her reasons and I can see Walt getting drunk with power this season and telling Jesse how many times he's manipulated him leading Jesse to do it.
• gut

  mucalum49;1483152 wrote:Still think Skylar or Jesse will end up killing Walt. Skylar has her reasons and I can see Walt getting drunk with power this season and telling Jesse how many times he's manipulated him leading Jesse to do it.

  Skylar killing Walt would be one of the worst finales in history. There could be some interesting angles with Jesse. Hank now knows they're partners.
  
  I think Hank will struggle with it, but ultimately pursue Walt. He'll probably realize he got shot because of Walt. Then you have Skylar's suicide attempt and with Walt being a kingpin...I think Hank will want to act to get those kids safe. And let's not forget - Skylar knows enough to put Walt away, too.
• mucalum49

  

  gut;1483165 wrote:Skylar killing Walt would be one of the worst finales in history. There could be some interesting angles with Jesse. Hank now knows they're partners.
  
  I think Hank will struggle with it, but ultimately pursue Walt. He'll probably realize he got shot because of Walt. Then you have Skylar's suicide attempt and with Walt being a kingpin...I think Hank will want to act to get those kids safe. And let's not forget - Skylar knows enough to put Walt away, too.

  I just imagine Skylar if there's a showdown between Hank and Walt. Walt having the upperhand and Skylar coming to Hank's rescue by finishing off Walt.
• Fab4Runner

  

  Two days, bitch!
  
  http://www.someecards.com/2013/08/08/if-breaking-bad-took-place-entirely-on-facebook
  
  http://www.buzzfeed.com/h2/fbsp/breakingbad/the-tensest-moments-in-your-life-as-told-by-breaking-b
• wildcats20

  

  Marathon on AMC right now.
• Sage

  

  Walt is going to kill Jesse to protect himself. Painfully obvious to see. Also think Hank and Heisenberg will rumble before Walt gets the better of him only to die of cancer. I also think Walt Jr. is going to puff on some meth this season. Hopefully he ODs because Walt Jr fucking sucks.
• gut

  Jesse also has a friend or two that could be potential witnesses that Walt will have to get rid of.
  
  I think Walt will take care of all the potential rats. That's going to leave Skylar as the only one that can put him away.
• Pick6

  

  Sage;1484838 wrote:Walt is going to kill Jesse to protect himself. Painfully obvious to see. Also think Hank and Heisenberg will rumble before Walt gets the better of him only to die of cancer. I also think Walt Jr. is going to puff on some meth this season. Hopefully he ODs because Walt Jr fucking sucks.

  wha....wha...wha...wha......whatttt?!?
• Pick6

  

  Anyways, I'm not even going to try and predict it, just be mindfucked by it when it happens. Could go so many ways.
• robj55

  

  Just caught up on all the episodes after putting off watching it for a long time, great series.
• se-alum

  

  My friends and I have organized weekly watch parties for the final season, can't wait!
• gut

  So my DVR recorded 9 minutes of a BB sneak preview....It was 2 minutes of flashbacks, and then some new show they launched. Grrrrrr.....
• wes_mantooth

  

  
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Can't wait, going to be awesome.
  I agree that Walt will go, but either by Jesse or Hank.
  I also think someone close to Walt dies, either Skylar, or his son.
  
  Gatorade me bitch!