Which is worse?

• justincredible

  

  like_that;1463197 wrote:lol, that is funny, because I get pms from mods saying that you are going out of your way to "punish" us

  Please post these PMs.
• thavoice

  Fly4Fun;1463198 wrote:Really? Where?

  The sooner you realize that you are wrong, and we are right, the sooner this will all be over.
  
  and then we will get bored that there is no one to bash any longer.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  like_that;1463197 wrote:lol, that is funny, because I get pms from mods saying that you are going out of your way to "punish" us even though you are petty. Thanks for confirming what I have been saying this whole time. You are a mod with an agenda. That post confirms it.

  I've gotten similar pms, basically saying that F4F QQs about us and on a mission to get us bant.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  justincredible;1463205 wrote:Please post these PMs.

  I will only do so, if said mods/past mods agree so. Otherwise I'll respect their confidentiality of the PM.
• mcburg93

  

  Taking F4F mods status away is not going to change anything. It will then be some other mods responsibility to do what he does. I have had issues with the mods and whined and bitched with the best of them. However I know the rules and can follow them. If you get threads moved or posts deleted its because you are not following the rules. Its simple follow the rules and you have nothing to worry about. I know a lot of ribbing gets taken out of context by the mods and its up to them to decide if it is worthy of being deleted.
  
  Ok enough of defending the ones I hate. GFY mods and have a nice day.
• justincredible

  

  Commander of Awesome;1463208 wrote:I will only do so, if said mods/past mods agree so. Otherwise I'll respect their confidentiality of the PM.

  You can post the text of the PMs without posting names.
• thavoice

  Hell, I dont know if any of the other mods ever do anything, so they sit back and watch RoboMod wipe the OC of all its filth and shitty members.
• thavoice

  justincredible;1463212 wrote:You can post the text of the PMs without posting names.

  That would entail them making up some PM's that were supposedly sent to them.
• ohiobucks1

  

  And to continue on that: You made a really good counter point, F4f but the fact of the matter is that a thread poll like this really isn't going to be a realistic way to decide what's right. If anything, Justin should develop a panel of guys to decide what to do to improve this site. I love this website. I think we all do. It gets me through my Internship days and actually is a really informative website if you wade through all the shit. But another reason this website is great is because of all the bitching and banter that goes on. It's what it was founded on. If we start banning all the original members for petty personal attacks then we are literally back to JJhuddle. I don't want that. I don't think anyone does. (sorry my computer at work doesn't do enter on this webpage so bear with me) - Like I said though, we need a combo of getting new people and keeping the veterans to make this site stay great. I started running the Sheep League because I thought it would be a way to make members have fun on the site again and keep them coming back. I invited friends to join (who have) and slowly but surely they are all starting to frequent the page more. We need to all be proactive about bringing people to the site. With that said, the reason I loved this site so much when I first joined was all the hilarious personalities that gave the site its own personal feel. We can't keep losing those guys over stupid shit. Something has to change. I trust Justin will figure it out though. I also think we should invite some of the guys who left, back, and wipe their slates clean. I miss Hoops on the Cleveland threads. He was a boss. And I'm going to miss DeyDurkies posts too.
• Con_Alma

  ohiobucks1;1463218 wrote:And to continue on that: You made a really good counter point, F4f but the fact of the matter is that a thread poll like this really isn't going to be a realistic way to decide what's right....

  This isn't a democracy. Isn't what's right whatever Justin wants to do?
• Commander of Awesome

  

  justincredible;1463212 wrote:You can post the text of the PMs without posting names.

  Mod #1 "Trust me, I completely get it. I have to read his rationalizations in the Mod forum. He definitely oversteps the boundaries at times. He definitely takes this mod thing too seriously.That was kind of my point. Like I said, I get the bitching when he does something over the line, I guess I just don't get the constant harassing all the other times."
  
  Mod 2 "The discussion in the Mod Forum about like_that's infraction got so intense that someone just ragequit being a mod.
  
  Believe me, this is causing some shit.
  
  Yeah. It was weird how seriously he took the whole thing. I honestly wonder if real life is kicking his ass right now, and he's bringing some of it on here. Kinda feel bad for him if that's the case. "
  
  Mod 3 "Just between you and me, I would lay off of f4f for a lil while. He is basically looking for reasons to ban you and like_that
  
  
  Don't post anything anywhere or anything though, his shit is pissing some of us mods off."
  
  I would post more, but I think it would give it away.You get the idea though.
• ohiobucks1

  

  Con_Alma;1463219 wrote:This isn't a democracy. Isn't what's right whatever Justin wants to do?

  Very true.
• SnotBubbles

  

  Here's one I got once:
  

  justincredible;1463205 wrote:Private Message: We go out of our way to punish like_that, RDI and COA because they're assholes. Just thought I'd send you this random PM so you know. Also, I blew Carlos Zambrano when he was with the Cubs. Go Cubs. Your friend, Justincredible (site owner)

• thavoice

  Commander of Awesome;1463220 wrote:Mod #1 "Trust me, I completely get it. I have to read his rationalizations in the Mod forum. He definitely oversteps the boundaries at times. He definitely takes this mod thing too seriously.That was kind of my point. Like I said, I get the bitching when he does something over the line, I guess I just don't get the constant harassing all the other times."
  
  Mod 2 "The discussion in the Mod Forum about like_that's infraction got so intense that someone just ragequit being a mod.
  
  Believe me, this is causing some ****.
  
  Yeah. It was weird how seriously he took the whole thing. I honestly wonder if real life is kicking his ass right now, and he's bringing some of it on here. Kinda feel bad for him if that's the case. "
  
  Mod 3 "Just between you and me, I would lay off of f4f for a lil while. He is basically looking for reasons to ban you and like_that
  
  
  Don't post anything anywhere or anything though, his **** is pissing some of us mods off."

  Bazinga. BUSTED.
  
  Now we will see a purging of mods....
• thavoice

  SnotBubbles;1463222 wrote:Here's one I got once:

  I got one similiar to that, but in that one he admitted to an extramarital affair with Holly mangold.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Please change thread title to tl;dr.
• vball10set

  Just got back from golfing and thought I'd jump on here and see what's new, and holy shit, the place has imploded...wtf?!?
• SnotBubbles

  

  vball10set;1463230 wrote:Just got back from golfing and thought I'd jump on here and see what's new, and holy shit, the place has imploded...wtf?!?

  Did you wear a visor?
• thavoice

  SnotBubbles;1463233 wrote:Did you wear a visor?

  He left it in his fannypack
• SportsAndLady

  

  SnotBubbles;1463222 wrote:Here's one I got once:

  
  Here comes snot to just completely derail a thread because he wants to be involved with the cool kids whenever a thread is about individual members.
  
  Jesus
• vdubb96

  

  SnotBubbles;1463233 wrote:Did you wear a visor?

  HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
• SnotBubbles

  

  SportsAndLady;1463236 wrote:Here comes snot to just completely derail a thread because he wants to be involved with the cool kids whenever a thread is about individual members.
  
  Jesus

  
• Fly4Fun

  

  ohiobucks1;1463218 wrote:And to continue on that: You made a really good counter point, F4f but the fact of the matter is that a thread poll like this really isn't going to be a realistic way to decide what's right. If anything, Justin should develop a panel of guys to decide what to do to improve this site. I love this website. I think we all do. It gets me through my Internship days and actually is a really informative website if you wade through all the shit. But another reason this website is great is because of all the bitching and banter that goes on. It's what it was founded on. If we start banning all the original members for petty personal attacks then we are literally back to JJhuddle. I don't want that. I don't think anyone does. (sorry my computer at work doesn't do enter on this webpage so bear with me) - Like I said though, we need a combo of getting new people and keeping the veterans to make this site stay great. I started running the Sheep League because I thought it would be a way to make members have fun on the site again and keep them coming back. I invited friends to join (who have) and slowly but surely they are all starting to frequent the page more. We need to all be proactive about bringing people to the site. With that said, the reason I loved this site so much when I first joined was all the hilarious personalities that gave the site its own personal feel. We can't keep losing those guys over stupid shit. Something has to change. I trust Justin will figure it out though. I also think we should invite some of the guys who left, back, and wipe their slates clean. I miss Hoops on the Cleveland threads. He was a boss. And I'm going to miss DeyDurkies posts too.

  Oh I agree that an opt-in poll is not really a good indicator of the feelings of an entiregroup as there are plenty of flaws with trying to extrapolate the results of a sample to the entirety. Now if everyone answered the poll then it would have some legitimacy.
  
  Also, none of us moderators want this to be JJHuddle. A lot of us had our fair share of issues with the moderation at JJ, even before the mass exodus. We didn't mind having the site be a no-holds barred in the beginning, but that devolved to the point where there was very little actual discussion going on in most threads and it was filled with either personal attacks or trolling being lobbed back and forth between the disagreeing sides. And then we tried to come up with rules to curb that behavior some but still allow for general shenanigans. That's also the reason that we've tried various lenient enforcement policies (3 strike system with infractions with the initial warning infraction, creating the basement so people are never permanently gone, and even more recently using threadbans in lieu of the infractions so people aren't stuck in the basement for extended periods such as DeyDurkie and Thavoice). Even with the recent threadbannings of said, like_that, and hasbeen from the exercise/fitness thread that this "bruhaha" is all about I said that I have no problem undoing the thread ban if they can refrain from resorting to personal attacks. And I genuinely wanted them back in the thread as they were providing good information in there before things got too personal between the three of them.
  
  But I do agree that we need to somehow be proactive to get people to view the site. As I do think it's entertaining despite it's flaws.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  F4F - I do think you (at least appear to) hold yourself in much higher regard than other moderators.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  F4F (and other mods) - I begged for like_that and hasbeen to be allowed back in the exercise thread, if they promised to not hurt feelz anymore... why was that not honored?