Cop shoots Hofstra student in head
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LJ
No. Maybe backed off of the guy and waiting for backup. The guy there to save her not shooting her in the face gives her a better chance of living than what she got.gport_tennis;1445462 wrote:So he is supposed to just accept that the suspect is going to shoot him? Just let himself be sacrificed so the woman may end up living but will probably still be killed by suspect?
The worst person in all of this is the person who caused all of this, let's not forget -
WebFire
So he's cleared then?LJ;1445467 wrote:No. -
WebFire
There you go assuming again.LJ;1445470 wrote:No. Maybe backed off of the guy and waiting for backup. The guy there to save her not shooting her in the face gives her a better chance of living than what she got. -
LJ
I'll come right out and take claim to that one. He fired 8 shots while the guy had a hostage in his arm. That's reckless. You don't have to be passive agressive about it.WebFire;1445469 wrote:Note, that is much different that acting recklessly, which is what some on here seem to claim. That is the part we do not know. -
LJ
Why would he be brought on criminal charges in the first place? How often a stray bullet from a cops gun killing or injuring someone send a cop to jail?WebFire;1445471 wrote:So he's cleared then? -
LJ
What? That the cop not shooting her in the face automatically gives her a better chance of living? Nah, that's not an assumption, that;s just a fact.WebFire;1445472 wrote:There you go assuming again. -
WebFire
Or maybe this part. Nice try though.LJ;1445475 wrote:What? That the cop not shooting her in the face automatically gives her a better chance of living? Nah, that's not an assumption, that;s just a fact.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE SITUATION!!!!!No. Maybe backed off of the guy and waiting for backup. -
WebFire
When they act recklessly and incorrectly, and it kills someone. Which is what you are suggesting.LJ;1445474 wrote:Why would he be brought on criminal charges in the first place? How often a stray bullet from a cops gun killing or injuring someone send a cop to jail? -
WebFire
Haha. 8 shots does not automatically mean reckless. :rolleyes:LJ;1445473 wrote:I'll come right out and take claim to that one. He fired 8 shots while the guy had a hostage in his arm. That's reckless. You don't have to be passive agressive about it. -
LJ
Yeah, that's not what Larry Meade said to me this morning.WebFire;1445478 wrote:Haha. 8 shots does not automatically mean reckless. :rolleyes: -
LJ
Link?WebFire;1445477 wrote:When they act recklessly and incorrectly, and it kills someone. Which is what you are suggesting. -
LJ
My opinion of a different solution? Ok.WebFire;1445476 wrote:Or maybe this part. Nice try though.
YOU DON'T KNOW THE SITUATION!!!!! -
WebFire
Ok, I get it. Everything you say is just your opinion. Just like everyone else's.LJ;1445481 wrote:My opinion of a different solution? Ok. -
Belly35
Confidence and proficiency: If you carry a weapon and are in the position to use the weapon to protect yourself and others then you need confidence and proficiency. Eight shot fired tells me someone need more practice and confidence and proficiency. Shoot an root is not the answer to effective protection. -
rmolin73
Belly35 has spoken!Belly35;1445494 wrote:Confidence and proficiency: If you carry a weapon and are in the position to use the weapon to protect yourself and others then you need confidence and proficiency. Eight shot fired tells me someone need more practice and confidence and proficiency. Shoot an root is not the answer to effective protection. -
WebFireSo S&L, you disagree with me that we should have more info before rushing to judgement? Cool.
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SportsAndLady
Lol you're pathetic..WebFire;1445720 wrote:So S&L, you disagree with me that we should have more info before rushing to judgement? Cool.
I disagree with calling this cop anything other than 'reckless' -
WebFire
:thumbup:SportsAndLady;1445724 wrote:Lol you're pathetic..
I disagree with calling this cop anything other than 'reckless' -
iclfan2
So the cop is an idiot, and I wouldn't trust any cop with that shot in the first place. They definitely aren't expert marksman, since most are too busy writing traffic citations to practice their shot. Also lost on this, is that how many times can you commit a crime and get paroled?? We need a 3 strike law everywhere for felonies. -
reclegend22
Not sure I agree completely. If somebody steals three cars, they deserve life in prison without the possiblity of parole? Why not just give them the gas chamber.iclfan2;1445786 wrote:So the cop is an idiot, and I wouldn't trust any cop with that shot in the first place. They definitely aren't expert marksman, since most are too busy writing traffic citations to practice their shot. Also lost on this, is that how many times can you commit a crime and get paroled?? We need a 3 strike law everywhere for felonies.
In California, if I am understanding the law correctly, I believe that's pretty much the case. Three non-violent felony charges can land you behind bars the rest of your natural life. That rule, IMO, should be reserved for violent crimes only. Non-violent drug offenses and other felonies such as grand theft auto without the use of deadly force do not deserve that treatment. So, I agree with you as long as you are precluding non-violent crimes from the three-strikes rule. -
Glory Days
back off and wait for back up? he was in the same room with a gun pointed at him and you want him to back off? a dead cop never saved anyone's life.LJ;1445470 wrote:No. Maybe backed off of the guy and waiting for backup. The guy there to save her not shooting her in the face gives her a better chance of living than what she got.
you forgot the part where the suspect was pointing a gun a the cop....therefore not making it reckless.LJ;1445473 wrote:I'll come right out and take claim to that one. He fired 8 shots while the guy had a hostage in his arm. That's reckless. You don't have to be passive agressive about it. -
Glory Days
7 of his 8 shots struck the target. someone who carries a gun and even served in a combat zone like yourself should know that you fire until the threat stops and that one or 2 shots will rarely kill someone, probably i would say almost never kill someone. i knew a cop who put a round in the center of a guy's forehead and the round didnt even penetrate his skull.Belly35;1445494 wrote:Confidence and proficiency: If you carry a weapon and are in the position to use the weapon to protect yourself and others then you need confidence and proficiency. Eight shot fired tells me someone need more practice and confidence and proficiency. Shoot an root is not the answer to effective protection. -
Glory Days
i would actually like to hear the whole story. from what i read, there was a male in the house who fell down the stairs and closed the door and started yelling "the cops are here", thus trapping the cop, the soon to be hostage and suspect in the front room of the house.
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Belly35
I totally agree with fire till the threat is stopped... however this is a hostage situation and the potential for collateral damage is greater. Well places first and second round, potentally grab the hostage from harms way or move position so both hostage and shooter is off balance and continue to fire and or reaim for a better (mass) area target.Glory Days;1446367 wrote:7 of his 8 shots struck the target. someone who carries a gun and even served in a combat zone like yourself should know that you fire until the threat stops and that one or 2 shots will rarely kill someone, probably i would say almost never kill someone. i knew a cop who put a round in the center of a guy's forehead and the round didnt even penetrate his skull.
we where not there so .. woulda, coulda, shouilda does not apply. -
LJ
Too bad instead of saving her the cop killed her, not giving her a chance at all.Glory Days;1446366 wrote:back off and wait for back up? he was in the same room with a gun pointed at him and you want him to back off? a dead cop never saved anyone's life.