The most worthless person you know in real life...

• justincredible

  

  Who is it and what makes them so worthless? Examples of their worthlessness would be helpful.
  
  My wife and I were out for dinner last night and somehow started talking about some family friends of hers. Her parents best friends have 3 kids. One son is successful, can't remember what he does, but he's doing well for himself. The other son has a marketing degree but hasn't had a job in years. He lives with his baby momma and kid...at her parents house. Her dad apparently has his own company and is willing to let the kid lie on his resume and put his company down in his job history...but won't actually give him a job. The baby momma is some sort of radiation therapy tech and can basically work anywhere in the country. Dumbass guy is not willing to leave wherever they are currently at in Florida.
  
  Next kid. Their youngest, daughter. She went to school for photography. Can't find any companies hiring. Still lives at home. Parents pay her way. You went to school for photography, you don't need to find a job at a company, get off your lazy ass and start your own. I know several people that have their own photography businesses and do pretty well with them and they don't have the benefit of living in a giant city like Philadelphia. It wouldn't be hard to fill your schedule with clients in a big city like that, you just have to be willing to put in the effort.The parents certainly aren't helping by enabling the kids to basically live of them well in to their 20s.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  justincredible;1263664 wrote:Who is it and what makes them so worthless? Examples of their worthlessness would be helpful.
  
  My wife...

  that's rough...
• sleeper

  

  The first son is probably an engineer because that's one of the few jobs out there that's hiring.
  
  Look, if these people are considered worthless, might as well just label 50% of college students in the past 5 years worthless as well. I can think of far more worthless people than the ones listed even though they have questionable ethics at best. Try welfare; at least the parents in this case actually take care of their own despite their poor advice and their children who didn't do any future planning.
  
  I use myself as the perfect example. I did very well in school(one of the best in the country) with a degree in Finance and it wasn't an easy process to get a job. Til this day, I have no idea why this company gave me a shot with this ridiculous of a salary, but I recognize that I am one of the lucky ones.
  
  Cue O-trap to come on here and write a book about how great marketing is and how valuable marketing is to society. :thumbup:
• BR1986FB

  Oh...where to start.
  
  There's a guy who has three kids, won't keep a job for more than a week, thinks he's "entitled" to Welfare while he deals drugs ("I do it for my kids", yet the kids never get the money used on them).
  
  Or the "mother of four" who popped out her first kid at 16 and is working on #4 as she just turned 21. Another "fine" Welfare recipient who pawns off her kids on "grandma" and uses the threat of "you'll never see your grandchildren again if you don't do "this" for me or give me money." This "person" also has her cigarettes rolled daily for her by "grandma" because she doesn't want to pay for them. "Grandma" also has to deliver these cigarettes to her.
  
  Then there's "I'm a GOOD mom" who would rather take on extra work hours so she can avoid being around her kids. "Good mom" also has a "baby daddy" who has threatened to beat the Hell out of one of the kids (not his) and steals "good mom's" money so he can buy illegal prescription painkillers that he crushes up and snorts up his nose. Meanwhile, he screws everything that moves but "good mom" doesn't believe it because "he's a dream.
  
  I could do this ALL day...
• sleeper

  

  BR1986FB;1263675 wrote:Oh...where to start.
  
  There's a guy who has three kids, won't keep a job for more than a week, thinks he's "entitled" to Welfare while he deals drugs ("I do it for my kids", yet the kids never get the money used on them).
  
  Or the "mother of four" who popped out her first kid at 16 and is working on #4 as she just turned 21. Another "fine" Welfare recipient who pawns off her kids on "grandma" and uses the threat of "you'll never see your grandchildren again if you don't do "this" for me or give me money." This "person" also has her cigarettes rolled daily for her by "grandma" because she doesn't want to pay for them. "Grandma" also has to deliver these cigarettes to her.
  
  Then there's "I'm a GOOD mom" who would rather take on extra work hours so she can avoid being around her kids. "Good mom" also has a "baby daddy" who has threatened to beat the Hell out of one of the kids (not his) and steals "good mom's" money so he can buy illegal prescription painkillers that he crushes up and snorts up his nose. Meanwhile, he screws everything that moves but "good mom" doesn't believe it because "he's a dream.
  
  I could do this ALL day...

  This guy gets it. Reps.
• justincredible

  

  sleeper;1263673 wrote:The first son is probably an engineer because that's one of the few jobs out there that's hiring.
  
  Look, if these people are considered worthless, might as well just label 50% of college students in the past 5 years worthless as well. I can think of far more worthless people than the ones listed even though they have questionable ethics at best. Try welfare; at least the parents in this case actually take care of their own despite their poor advice and their children who didn't do any future planning.
  
  I use myself as the perfect example. I did very well in school(one of the best in the country) with a degree in Finance and it wasn't an easy process to get a job. Til this day, I have no idea why this company gave me a shot with this ridiculous of a salary, but I recognize that I am one of the lucky ones.
  
  Cue O-trap to come on here and write a book about how great marketing is and how valuable marketing is to society. :thumbup:

  They are "worthless" because they have no motivation to do anything. They are unwilling to either move (son) or start their own business (daughter). Worthless may be too harsh a word, but it's ridiculous that they are basically just living off their parents. Better than living off the govt, though the son and baby momma were on welfare for a but while she was pregnant or something.
• gorocks99

  

  sleeper;1263673 wrote:Cue O-trap to come on here and write a book about how great marketing is and how valuable marketing is to society. :thumbup:

  Yeah, market research is where it's at
• vball10set

  sleeper;1263673 wrote:The first son is probably an engineer because that's one of the few jobs out there that's hiring.
  
  Look, if these people are considered worthless, might as well just label 50% of college students in the past 5 years worthless as well. I can think of far more worthless people than the ones listed even though they have questionable ethics at best. Try welfare; at least the parents in this case actually take care of their own despite their poor advice and their children who didn't do any future planning.
  
  I use myself as the perfect example. I did very well in school(one of the best in the country) with a degree in Finance and it wasn't an easy process to get a job. Til this day, I have no idea why this company gave me a shot with this ridiculous of a salary, but I recognize that I am one of the lucky ones....

  Other than the BS in bold, this is a pretty good post...remember, those who do make a lot of money don't talk about it, and those who don't feel a need to embellish--hope this helps
• bigkahuna

  I have a cousin who's ~21-22. His gf/baby momma is 23~24. The girl works "a little," and he can't/wont hold down a job. They have a baby almost 3 years old and a baby almost a year old. They live at home with HER dad and guilt trip my aunt(his mom) and our grandma into driving them EVERYWHERE. Neither one of them have a drivers license, and she works the bar minimum to get assistance. She has a degree in graphic design but doesn't use it. He's been in and out of JDC, but I don't think he's been in big boy jail yet.
  
  He tries to be friends with me and talk to me at family functions, but I can't stand to look at him. There's other stuff but I wont get into that.
  
  Another person would be my brother-in-law(see my post on What's Your Number). The guy works for Ford as an engineer and makes $90,000/year. He'll be 30 within the next few months and still lives at home with his mother. He sees her struggle with her bills after she had to take a DRASTIC pay cut but still only gives her ~$200/month, which is about 15-20% of the monthly house bills (mortgage, utilities...) because he says 1. It's not his responsibility to support her and 2. He can't afford it. In the last year he's bought a boat and a "new" truck and paid cash for both. He regularly comes home with high end food and a few times brought home Kobe Steak leftovers. He leaves her house a mess and throws parties like he's in his early 20s still. Not you're typical POS, but a POS non the less.
• sleeper

  

  justincredible;1263682 wrote:They are "worthless" because they have no motivation to do anything. They are unwilling to either move (son) or start their own business (daughter). Worthless may be too harsh a word, but it's ridiculous that they are basically just living off their parents. Better than living off the govt, though the son and baby momma were on welfare for a but while she was pregnant or something.

  I see your point, but I'm telling you this situation will become the norm and not the exception. Have you seen the job market for young people? It's junk and that's being nice. Is it the fault of the 20-somethings who majored in Photography and expect a job paying $50k a year? Yes, without a doubt. Most people don't have the skills to start their own successful business and I think telling young people who are graduated in a different world than from their parents that they are worthless is disingenuous at best.
• sleeper

  

  gorocks99;1263683 wrote:Yeah, market research is where it's at

  Agreed.
• bigkahuna

  sleeper;1263673 wrote:The first son is probably an engineer because that's one of the few jobs out there that's hiring.
  
  Look, if these people are considered worthless, might as well just label 50% of college students in the past 5 years worthless as well. I can think of far more worthless people than the ones listed even though they have questionable ethics at best. Try welfare; at least the parents in this case actually take care of their own despite their poor advice and their children who didn't do any future planning.
  
  I use myself as the perfect example. I did very well in school(one of the best in the country) with a degree in Finance and it wasn't an easy process to get a job. Til this day, I have no idea why this company gave me a shot with this ridiculous of a salary, but I recognize that I am one of the lucky ones.
  
  Cue O-trap to come on here and write a book about how great marketing is and how valuable marketing is to society. :thumbup:

  McDonalds?
• sleeper

  

  vball10set;1263684 wrote:Other than the BS in bold, this is a pretty good post...remember, those who do make a lot of money don't talk about it, and those who don't feel a need to embellish--hope this helps

  I'm either borderline or full blown narcissistic at this point so I don't have any problems making sure everyone knows that I have more than you.
• sleeper

  

  bigkahuna;1263691 wrote:McDonalds?

  :rolleyes:
• bigkahuna

  sleeper;1263694 wrote::rolleyes:

  Sorry, had to.
• justincredible

  

  bigkahuna;1263688 wrote:I have a cousin who's ~21-22. His gf/baby momma is 23~24. The girl works "a little," and he can't/wont hold down a job. They have a baby almost 3 years old and a baby almost a year old. They live at home with HER dad and guilt trip my aunt(his mom) and our grandma into driving them EVERYWHERE. Neither one of them have a drivers license, and she works the bar minimum to get assistance. She has a degree in graphic design but doesn't use it. He's been in and out of JDC, but I don't think he's been in big boy jail yet.
  
  He tries to be friends with me and talk to me at family functions, but I can't stand to look at him. There's other stuff but I wont get into that.
  
  Another person would be my brother-in-law(see my post on What's Your Number). The guy works for Ford as an engineer and makes $90,000/year. He'll be 30 within the next few months and still lives at home with his mother. He sees her struggle with her bills after she had to take a DRASTIC pay cut but still only gives her ~$200/month, which is about 15-20% of the monthly house bills (mortgage, utilities...) because he says 1. It's not his responsibility to support her and 2. He can't afford it. In the last year he's bought a boat and a "new" truck and paid cash for both. He regularly comes home with high end food and a few times brought home Kobe Steak leftovers. He leaves her house a mess and throws parties like he's in his early 20s still. Not you're typical POS, but a POS non the less.

  How old is bro-in-law? Sounds like a real dickhead.
• sleeper

  

  bigkahuna;1263697 wrote:Sorry, had to.

  We're cool man.
• Cat Food Flambe'

  

  Definitely my 30-year-old nephew in Kentucky - he's fathered seven kids by four different girls (all but one of which were under 18 when he knocked 'em up for the first time) He pays no child support to any of them (welfare pays better, and Medicaid takes care of the health insurance), and does odd jobs under the table to avoid court garnishments from the CSEA.
  
  
  He brags about it. :mad:
• sleeper

  

  justincredible;1263698 wrote:How old is bro-in-law? Sounds like a real dickhead.

  No doubt. A microcosm of society in that someone makes $90,000 a year but can't afford anything. If this person didn't exist, society would be better off, but this "person" is everywhere and they want the rich to pay their "fair share".
• vball10set

  sleeper;1263693 wrote:I'm either borderline or full blown narcissistic at this point so I don't have any problems making sure everyone knows that I have more than you.

  Actually, you don't--and I can guarantee you that
• justincredible

  

  Cat Food Flambe';1263706 wrote:Definitely my 30-year-old nephew in Kentucky - he's fathered seven kids by four different girls (all but one of which were under 18 when he knocked 'em up for the first time) He pays no child support to any of them (welfare pays better, and Medicaid takes care of the health insurance), and does odd jobs under the table to avoid court garnishments from the CSEA.
  
  
  He brags about it. :mad:

  Good lord.
  
  Btw, this is one "contest" that I will absolutely be happy to lose. I'm glad that the most worthless people I know aren't REALLY worthless.
• justincredible

  

  vball10set;1263711 wrote:Actually, you don't--and I can guarantee you that

  W2's. Post 'em. Both of you.
• bigkahuna

  justincredible;1263698 wrote:How old is bro-in-law? Sounds like a real ****head.

  30 in December.
• sleeper

  

  vball10set;1263711 wrote:Actually, you don't--and I can guarantee you that

  It's certainly possible given that a majority of users on this forum are significantly older than me. Adjusting for years of experience and it won't be close; not now and not ever.
• redrocket

  

  My ex-wife, hands down