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NIT: North Carolina @ UAB

  • reclegend22
    Henson almost looks like a galloping fawn. And that's meant as a compliment (I think).

    That hook body twisting stuff he's doing is nice. I agree that if he builds up, he'll be a force. He's starting to come into his own.

    Any word on whether or not he's being looked at at all by the folks at the next level (in terms of first round)? Early in the year, I know some had him projected as a top 15, but I highly doubt it. I wouldn't mind seeing him go, though;)
  • ironman02
    I think Henson already said he's coming back (unofficially), but that could obviously change.

    Not sure where he is projected right now.
  • wildcats20
    Well I was off on my 11 point win prediction.
  • ironman02
    I wish someone in Birmingham would just beat down John Saunders right now.
  • ironman02
    Make the FTs, Deon. Make 'em!
  • wildcats20
    Well according to Chad Ford's top 100 on ESPN:

    Ed Davis is #7
    Henson is #34, as a mid to late 1st rounder.
    Draft Projection: Mid to late first round

    Notes: Played for Sickles High School in Tampa, Fla. Averaged 17.6 ppg, 12.2 rpg and 6.1 bpg as a senior. Grew six inches his senior season and is still transitioning from a guard into a forward.

    Positives:
    John Henson
    Henson's long reach is one of his strong attributes.
    (Gerry Broome/AP)



    # Super athletic
    # Long, lanky forward
    # Great motor
    # Good rebounder and shot-blocker
    # Scores in a variety of ways around the basket

    Negatives:

    # Needs to add A LOT of muscle
    # Perimeter game needs developing
    # Hasn't played a big role at UNC this season

    Summary: Mar 2 Update: Henson may not declare for this year's draft, but lately he has shown why many scouts had him rated as one of the top three talents in this year's freshman class. With Ed Davis out the rest of the season, Henson has stepped in as the starting power forward and has played well. His scoring numbers aren't off the charts, but he delivers in a number of other ways.

    The chances are likely that Henson will return to school for his sophomore year. He needs to add a lot of strength and polish to his game. If he does return, expect him to be a top-10 prospect in 2011.

    Jan 28 Update, by David Thorpe: Henson and Florida freshman Kenny Boynton are good examples of how important "size for their position" is for a draft prospect. By any measure, Boynton is having a much bigger impact in college than Henson despite his poor perimeter shooting, yet Henson is the one that would still be a high pick if he declares for the draft. This despite averaging just 10 minutes and 3 points a game.

    The college game is all about power, where stronger players can beat up weaker ones. But the NBA game, where eventually almost everyone has strength, is all about speed and size. Henson physically cannot compete at a decent level in college, as of now. He almost never gets to where he wants to go on offense because he's not strong enough to absorb contact he from his defender and still dictate direction and position. But he's tall, long, coordinated, quick and interested in competing, not to mention skilled. The NBA is not about today as much as it's about tomorrow, certainly as far as the draft is concerned.

    And there are positives to his game. In 10 minutes, Henson gets over a block a game. He's got good form on his shot, and reaches the basket easily from distance despite being so weak. Those things translate to the next level. In many ways, he reminds me of Anthony Randolph from LSU, with a better shot and perhaps more emotional maturity. Randolph struggled for much of his freshman season before rapidly improving toward the end. Had he stayed at LSU, he could have been a top-five pick, but he chose to leave after one season and went No. 14. He's one of the best young talents in the NBA now.

    Henson is not quite at that level. In fact he's not close to where Randolph was at the end of his freshman season. But if he starts earning more time, it's likely his production will increase and that will draw more attention from NBA reps.

    Jan 26 Update: While Henry looked like the second-best freshman once the season got going, a number of scouts were referring to Henson in those terms before the season began. He has dropped a long way since then.

    Henson isn't playing a huge role at North Carolina. But the minutes he does get haven't been overly impressive. He has struggled to score and made some pretty bad errors on both sides of the floor, and at this point, he looks hopelessly skinny.

    No one is losing sight of the fact that Henson has the tool set to be great someday. But the emphasis, for now, is on someday. He's clearly not ready for the NBA. It's not even clear whether he's ready for college at this point. He's slipped out of our top 15 for the first time this season and could be in a free fall the next few weeks.

    Jan 5 Update: Many GMs believe Henson, not Ed Davis, is the best NBA prospect on the Tar Heels. However, that belief is based on faith more than evidence at this point. Henson has played a small, supporting role for North Carolina this year. Yes, he's shown flashes of greatness in those moments, but he also hasn't produced very much either. If he breaks out in conference play he could rise much higher than his current No. 11 position on our Big Board. Even if he doesn't, he could still go high based solely on his upside.

    Dec 15 Update: Henson isn't getting the minutes he needs to wow scouts, but what he's doing in limited time is nevertheless impressive. He has freakish athletic and physical attributes and has a good feel for the game. Maybe more impressively, he can change the course of a game without having any plays called for him. Most likely he will return to North Carolina for his sophomore season, but if he declared for the draft this year, someone would still take him in the lottery.

    Nov 24 Update: The other player slipping is UNC freshman John Henson. There's nothing wrong with Henson's long-term draft prognosis. But he's painfully thin, doesn't have a position right now and is playing a supporting role at UNC. Most likely he's a top prospect in 2011. I would love to see him paired with our top prospect from 2011, Harrison Barnes, at North Carolina. Could be the first time teammates go 1-2 in the draft.

    Nov 10 Update: From a pure talent perspective, Henson might be the best prospect in his class. He has an amazing 7-foot-4 wingspan and has the skills to play multiple positions. He is an elite shot-blocker, runs the floor and can hit jumpers from just about everywhere.

    Henson's challenge this season is a formidable one. He is very, very thin for his size and can get manhandled in the paint. Of course, scouts said similar things about Kevin Garnett, and he turned out OK.

    Henson's other struggle will be a position change. With sophomore (and top-five prospect) Ed Davis and senior Deon Thompson manning the front line, Henson will play the 3 this season. Given his lack of strength, that might be a blessing in disguise. With Davis and Thompson as the alpha dogs at UNC this season, it will be interesting to watch that dynamic. If Henson decides to defer to the veterans, he probably will be deferring to the 2011 draft as well.

    We have Henson ranked No. 7 on our Big Board due to concerns about his strength, but if he shows he has the perimeter chops to play the 3 in the NBA, he could compete with Wall and Favors for the No. 1 pick in the draft.

    Apr 12 Update: The most intriguing forward in his class, Henson is blessed with great size, length and athleticism. He also has a terrific motor and a great nose for the ball.

    He had a strong game for Team USA, scoring 10 points and grabbing 9 rebounds in 17 minutes of play. However, he was pushed around in the paint by the World Team's forwards. He's a top-5 pick in the 2010 NBA draft based on talent, but he must get stronger if he's going to excel in the NBA.
  • ironman02
    Someone REBOUND the ball!!!
  • wildcats20
    ironman02 wrote: Someone REBOUND the ball!!!
    NO SHIT!!!!


    Drew II with another driving layup at the end of a game, LOVE seeing this.
  • ironman02
    Now Larry better make his FTs.
  • wildcats20
    There you go Larry
  • ironman02
    YES!!!!

    Finish them off Dexter.
  • wildcats20
    Did I just hear a "Tar....Heels" chant?!?!? HELL YEAH!!!
  • wildcats20
    Ball game!!
  • ironman02
    wildcats20 wrote: Did I just hear a "Tar....Heels" chant?!?!? HELL YEAH!!!
    Yeah, that was pretty sweet.
  • ironman02
    Is Carolina finally learning how to win close games?

    I know it's the NIT, but I'm still liking this.

    Winning at MSU and UAB isn't bad.
  • wildcats20
    Honestly, I didn't expect to get past MSU.

    All 3 games thus far have tested the Heels in different ways. Can't be anything but good for next year.
  • wildcats20
    What I'm worried about now is the week lay off between games.
  • reclegend22
    ironman02 wrote:I wish someone in Birmingham would just beat down John Saunders right now.
    LOL. The only time I ever could tolerate him was as narrator on my 1990 Super Slams and Spectacular Plays of College Basketball video. And that's only because, really, how hard is it to say, "Look at this dunk!"

    He should be trapped and shot.
  • wildcats20
    He's terrible, flat out terrible.
  • ironman02
    60-55 is the final.

    Heels will face the winner of Va Tech/Rhode Island next Tuesday at MSG.
  • Bond... James Bond
    wildcats20 wrote: Yeah turn it off lol

    BTW John Saunders is the WORST play by play guy in history.
    I thought that maybe it was just me... Saunders really was that biased during the game!

    Rec, I assume that he is typically anti-Duke as well?
  • reclegend22
    Bond... James Bond wrote:Rec, I assume that he is typically anti-Duke as well?
    Yes. He's an insufferable POS.

    Just last week during that 84 hours of NCAA tourney talk on ESPNU (what the f does Saunders know about college hoops?) someone said something about Georgetown and Saunders replied, "Don't forget the time the Hoyas punched the Dukies in the face ... knock out ... gotta love college basketball ... " Some BS like that. I hate him.
  • hoops23
    I was getting annoyed listening to John Saunders.. It was obvious who he wanted to win, it seemed like the guy was about to have an orgasm when Millsap was in a groove early in the 2nd half..

    Another good win by the Heels.. UAB was 30-0 in their last 30 home games against non conference opponents. Tough environment and they again persevered and came out with a close win. GREAT defense and John Henson is starting to look studly.

    I hope to god he and DrewII come back next season. Mixed in with Zeller, Strickland, Graves, and that recruiting class? Nice.

    I expect Ed Davis, despite what he says, to be gone. No way he lets this chance pass twice, especially after the troubles he's had this season staying healthy.
  • ironman02
    There are Carolina "insiders" who believe that Drew II is transferring and Davis is leaving for the NBA, and there are also those who believe that both will be back. There's an awful lot of guessing going on, in my opinion. Personally, I would think that if Davis is still projected to go in the lottery, he won't pass that up again, just as LTrain said. I also think that Drew II is at least considering a transfer.

    That said, I hope they're both back because Carolina could end up being really good if they get those guys back, especially if the freshmen perform well out of the gate. We'll know in just a few weeks what's going to happen, then we'll know what the roster will look like, and we'll be able to start focusing on next season. Until then, let's hope that the Heels can win the NIT. Rhode Island is next, after the Rams beat Va Tech tonight.
  • hoops23
    Is there any word on why exactly DrewII is thinking about transferring?

    This guy is really starting to come into his own as a PG and I'd love to have him at UNC for 2 more seasons.