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The Next Percy Harvin, and "now" SEC vs. Big 10 Debate

  • TheMightyGators
    lhslep134 wrote: Bandwagon fan? I've been rooting for Florida since I was born, along with Ohio State because those are the two schools my family has attended. I currently attend OSU and rooted for OSU against UF in 2007 but I've been pulling for the Gators since I started following college football because of family ties.

    And the Big 10 was VERY comparable to the SEC this year.

    At the top:
    Big 10: 2 BCS bowl winners
    SEC: 2 BCS bowl winners

    In the bowl season head to head:
    Big 10: 1
    SEC: 1

    Opponents winning percentage for teams that won bowl games:
    SEC: .713
    Big 10: .735


    Like I said, very comparable, just because the SEC has been better in years past doesn't mean they were better this year.
    are you kidding me? You want to use BCS wins or the fact that that the two conferences played 2 games against each other as your comparison? So I guess because Alabama won the NC and Florida could have named the score against Cincy, that makes their BCS wins better.

    How about we just settle for the FACT that the Big10 had HALF their conference with a losing record. HALF! Wow!!
  • lhslep134
    Or we can talk about how the SEC had 6 teams with losing records in conference (which goes to show how pathetic their OCC schedule is) and the Big Ten only had 4 teams with losing records in conference.

    Or we can talk about the other fact I included that you ignored that the Big Ten had a higher opponent's winning percentage in the bowl games they won (which speaks volumes in the fact that the SEC is able to win games in which they're the favorite, congrats).

    And Alabama? Awesome dude, they won one game against a Colt McCoy-less Texas. Were they the best team in the country? I really think so, but putting their BCS win as better than Ohio State's or Iowa's is not something I would do. Just because it was a bigger stage doesn't mean it was a better win. Iowa or OSU would also beat Texas without McCoy, as would Florida.

    And Florida? We beat a Cinci team that had yet to play a good defense, I'm pretty sure everyone knew the game was going to be lopsided, on top that it was Tebow's last game, Urban's "last game", and Brian Kelly wasn't there.

    Again, you can live in your fantasy world, but I'm a lot more of a realist, and the Big 10 DID compare to the SEC this year, because the SEC had a down year as a whole, and if you can't see that you're just another blind ignorant SEC fan, regardless of your team affiliation.
  • lhslep134
    http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=177

    Hmm it appears the Big 10 has a 97-91-7 record against the SEC, which, correct me if I'm wrong, is a winning record?

    That is a FACT. You're so ignorant.
  • sleeper
    TheMightyGators wrote:
    sleeper wrote:
    TheMightyGators wrote:
    lhslep134 wrote:
    TheMightyGators wrote: It was the best conference in college football, last season, yet again. No disputing it.
    Uhm, there is disputing it. Considering the rest of the SEC was mediocre at best after Florida and Alabama, the Big 10 was mediocre after Ohio State and Iowa, the Big 12 was decent, Pac 10 was pretty much garbage, I'd say there was no best conference last year.

    Don't say there isn't a dispute. I'm a Florida fan but not an SEC cocksucker, you're a Florida fan and SEC cocksucker, it's okay there's a lot of you guys out there.
    You are not a Florida fan. You are a bandwagon fan. Go root for someone else. Not only are you a bandwagon fan, you are a complete moron for trying to compare the Big10 to the SEC. The Big10 is lucky to be the 3rd or 4th best conference last year. Anytime you want to compare the depth of the two conferences just let me know.
    The Big 10 has an overall winning record against the SEC.

    Big 10 > SEC
    wrong. SEC has a winning record against the Big10 since the conference was formed. SEC > Big10
    LOL

    Keep on spinning.
  • ytownfootball
    The ONLY teams that the Big10 has a sub .500 record against is Independents and the Ivy League, back when they wore leather helmets.
  • j_crazy
    he doesn't remind me of harvin. but he will be a better WR than a QB IMO.
  • cats gone wild
    lhslep134 wrote:
    TheMightyGators wrote: It was the best conference in college football, last season, yet again. No disputing it.


    Don't say there isn't a dispute. I'm a Florida fan but not an SEC ****sucker, you're a Florida fan and SEC ****sucker, it's okay there's a lot of you guys out there.
    ROGL......coming from T. Pryor loving, WHOOPS I mean T. TEbow loving, or wait........which one is it? Oh, thats right, depends on whether Florida or OSU has a better year. I can only imagine the title game a few years ago. You probably cheered for OSU when Ginn ran back a TD, but then cheered for UF the rest of the game???!???!!
    lhslep134 wrote: Bandwagon fan? I've been rooting for Florida since I was born, along with Ohio State because those are the two schools my family has attended. I currently attend OSU and rooted for OSU against UF in 2007 but I've been pulling for the Gators since I started following college football because of family ties.

    Sure, we believe you
    lhslep134 wrote: http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=177

    Hmm it appears the Big 10 has a 97-91-7 record against the SEC, which, correct me if I'm wrong, is a winning record?

    That is a FACT. You're so ignorant.
    The FACT is, you are wrong. Better do some more research. If you cant find the REAL facts, I will gladly correct you.
  • lhslep134
    Cats, I don't give a shit one way or another if you believe me or not. I know which team I rooted for, and that was OSU, just like I rooted for OSU against LSU, and just like I rooted for UF against OU.

    You're generally bitter towards Florida fans because simply put, you can't beat them.

    And PLEASE show me those facts, because I brought up a legitimate site, cfbdatawarehouse.

    Just because you slob all over the SEC's knob regardless of your affiliation for LSU, and I don't care for any other team in that hillbilly conference besides Florida doesn't mean I'm any less of a fan than you.
  • cats gone wild
    lhslep134 wrote:

    You're generally bitter towards Florida fans because simply put, you can't beat them.

    And PLEASE show me those facts, because I brought up a legitimate site, cfbdatawarehouse.
    Im not bitter towards UF or their fans.

    And heres the facts:

    The SEC is 67-48-2 against the Big 10 all time
    The SEC is 34-21 vs. the Big 10 in bowl games all time

    You can only count the games if those teams were "actually" in the B10 or SEC. My #'s are actual head to head when these teams were in the B10 or SEC. You cant count PSU against SEC schools before 1990 considering PSU was "not" a B10 school until then. And you cant count games before 1932 when the SEC was "actually" founded.
  • ytownfootball
    Why? Because you say so?

    Whatever chief.
  • lhslep134
    I already read that article by that delusional SEC fan LOL.

    CFBdatabase is a much more reliable source.

    So you can't count Kentucky's 11 additional losses to Big 10 schools because it was before 1932?

    You're such a delusional idiot.

    The schools in the Big 10 have a record against the schools from the SEC of 97-91-7, and I'm not the only person on this board who agrees with that number either.

    Have a great day, and continue slobbing on that SEC knob. I'm so happy that I can be a Florida fan despite hating the rest of the SEC with a passion, kind of like fans in other conferences. Too bad you guys are so ass backward that will never happen. You will ALWAYS beat your chest when Alabama wins a national championship, despite the fact that LSU lost to them.

    I HATE that Alabama won the national championship, I was definitely pulling for Texas.
  • cats gone wild
    lhslep134 wrote: I already read that article by that delusional SEC fan LOL.

    CFBdatabase is a much more reliable source.

    So you can't count Kentucky's 11 additional losses to Big 10 schools because it was before 1932?

    Was Kentucky apart of the SEC before 1932. NO! Did the SEC exist then. NO!

    You're such a delusional idiot.

    cant handle facts?
    The schools in the Big 10 have a record against the schools from the SEC of 97-91-7, and I'm not the only person on this board who agrees with that number either.

    Hmmmm, I wonder why? Oh, because this is a small 11 site/OSU site?

    Have a great day, and continue slobbing on that SEC knob. I'm so happy that I can be a Florida fan despite hating the rest of the SEC with a passion, kind of like fans in other conferences. Too bad you guys are so ass backward that will never happen. You will ALWAYS beat your chest when Alabama wins a national championship, despite the fact that LSU lost to them.

    can care less about Bama. Nice try though

    I HATE that Alabama won the national championship, I was definitely pulling for Texas.
    WOW, call the whahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhbulance!!!
  • lhslep134
    You're the one who is crying Cats.

    Face the facts, the cfbdatawarehouse is a much more reliable fact than a site called "secsportsfan". Sounds like you're the one who is biased here and won't accept the truth.

    Maybe it's you who needs the tissue here.
  • ytownfootball
    Hmmmm, I wonder why? Oh, because this is a small 11 site/OSU site?
    Oh the irony, the humanity, the sheer blackwater ignorance...

    secsportfan.com...seriously, are there some blogs from there you can use to support your claim?

    Did you even check out the link? I'm guessing no....
  • cats gone wild
    lhslep134 wrote: You're the one who is crying Cats.

    Face the facts, the cfbdatawarehouse is a much more reliable fact than a site called "secsportsfan". Sounds like you're the one who is biased here and won't accept the truth.

    Maybe it's you who needs the tissue here.
    Who's crying? Why dont you look at post 21, 24, 28, 34, and 37. You will see who is whining and who made this topic go off topic. I just corrected you, that's all.
  • Lovejoy1984
    Wasn't aware that Percy Harvin was a failure at QB before being moved to WR.

    I'm glad I learned something today.
  • sleeper
    cats gone wild wrote:
    lhslep134 wrote:

    You're generally bitter towards Florida fans because simply put, you can't beat them.

    And PLEASE show me those facts, because I brought up a legitimate site, cfbdatawarehouse.
    Im not bitter towards UF or their fans.

    And heres the facts:

    The SEC is 67-48-2 against the Big 10 all time
    The SEC is 34-21 vs. the Big 10 in bowl games all time

    You can only count the games if those teams were "actually" in the B10 or SEC. My #'s are actual head to head when these teams were in the B10 or SEC. You cant count PSU against SEC schools before 1990 considering PSU was "not" a B10 school until then. And you cant count games before 1932 when the SEC was "actually" founded.
    LOL @ this delusional homer!
  • lhslep134
    sleeper wrote:

    LOL @ this delusional homer!
    LOL exactly.
  • TheMightyGators
    lhslep134 wrote: http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/vs_conf_byteam.php?confid=177

    Hmm it appears the Big 10 has a 97-91-7 record against the SEC, which, correct me if I'm wrong, is a winning record?

    That is a FACT. You're so ignorant.
    You're so stupid that you couldn't comprehend what I said.
  • TheMightyGators
    lhslep134 wrote: I already read that article by that delusional SEC fan LOL.

    CFBdatabase is a much more reliable source.

    So you can't count Kentucky's 11 additional losses to Big 10 schools because it was before 1932?

    You're such a delusional idiot.

    The schools in the Big 10 have a record against the schools from the SEC of 97-91-7, and I'm not the only person on this board who agrees with that number either.

    Have a great day, and continue slobbing on that SEC knob. I'm so happy that I can be a Florida fan despite hating the rest of the SEC with a passion, kind of like fans in other conferences. Too bad you guys are so ass backward that will never happen. You will ALWAYS beat your chest when Alabama wins a national championship, despite the fact that LSU lost to them.

    I HATE that Alabama won the national championship, I was definitely pulling for Texas.
    Does the ACC now count all of Vtech, BC and Miami's wins againt the Big East all those years, now as ACC wins? Miami's 5 NC's now count in the ACC totals? See how ignorant you look now?
  • TheMightyGators
    lhslep134 wrote: Or we can talk about how the SEC had 6 teams with losing records in conference (which goes to show how pathetic their OCC schedule is) and the Big Ten only had 4 teams with losing records in conference.

    Or we can talk about the other fact I included that you ignored that the Big Ten had a higher opponent's winning percentage in the bowl games they won (which speaks volumes in the fact that the SEC is able to win games in which they're the favorite, congrats).

    And Alabama? Awesome dude, they won one game against a Colt McCoy-less Texas. Were they the best team in the country? I really think so, but putting their BCS win as better than Ohio State's or Iowa's is not something I would do. Just because it was a bigger stage doesn't mean it was a better win. Iowa or OSU would also beat Texas without McCoy, as would Florida.

    And Florida? We beat a Cinci team that had yet to play a good defense, I'm pretty sure everyone knew the game was going to be lopsided, on top that it was Tebow's last game, Urban's "last game", and Brian Kelly wasn't there.

    Again, you can live in your fantasy world, but I'm a lot more of a realist, and the Big 10 DID compare to the SEC this year, because the SEC had a down year as a whole, and if you can't see that you're just another blind ignorant SEC fan, regardless of your team affiliation.
    How does having a losing record in conference prove anything about their out of conference schedule? That makes no sense at all. And do you really want to talk about strength of schedules? Really? And the Big10 conference had MORE than half their teams with losing records overall. That is flat out embarrassing, especially with the ooc schedule they played. Please, don't claim to be a Florida fan. Just stick with thd sweet Buckeyes!

    Here's a link for you. Like I said, no comparing the two conferences.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc09.htm
  • sleeper
    3 posts in a row, and you're still wrong. LOL
  • cats gone wild
    TheMightyGators wrote:

    Does the ACC now count all of Vtech, BC and Miami's wins againt the Big East all those years, now as ACC wins? Miami's 5 NC's now count in the ACC totals? See how ignorant you look now?
    Good point, and btw are you the old g8rbait?
  • Speedofsand
    I'm not jumping too deep into this pissing match because I know how ignorant some of the OSU homers are on this board. Both sides are right to an extent. cfbdatawarehouse goes off the school's records; the records of actual conf. match ups is also correct because it counts the records of when the schools were in the conferences. I couldn't care less who wants to count a bunch of PSU wins over Kentucky or not. Some here know the SEC plays better football than any other conference. Finally in 2009 the Big10 had a decent season at the same time the SEC had a down season. They still compared evenly overall. Big10 homers better enjoy it while they can, because the SEC will continue to have the best fans, best recruits, best coaches, and win National Championships.
  • sleeper
    Speedofsand wrote: I'm not jumping too deep into this pissing match because I know how ignorant some of the OSU homers are on this board. Both sides are right to an extent. cfbdatawarehouse goes off the school's records; the records of actual conf. match ups is also correct because it counts the records of when the schools were in the conferences. I couldn't care less who wants to count a bunch of PSU wins over Kentucky or not. Some here know the SEC plays better football than any other conference. Finally in 2009 the Big10 had a decent season at the same time the SEC had a down season. They still compared evenly overall. Big10 homers better enjoy it while they can, because the SEC will continue to have the best fans, best recruits, best coaches, and win National Championships.
    And the worst academics in the country.