#4 Purdue (21-3) @ #12 Ohio State (20-6)

• Footwedge

  You can't ask for a better shot than that. Purdue should have fouled...but they didn't. I don't understand why coaches don't foul in that situation.
• stephen3108

  I agree. had 2 TO's left.
• tbdbitl_osu

  Purdue 0 Timeout....Ohio State 2 Timeout
• UA5straightin2008

  

  ughhhhhhh
• mallymal614

  Matta just pissed me off tonight not using a timeout. I still luv him as a coach but he sure disappointed me with that.
• slingshot4ever

  What a fuck up
• UA5straightin2008

  

  karen lotz wrote:

  UA5straightin2008 wrote: god damnit it on iebler

  Have you not watched the rest of the game? Seriously give it a rest

  10 pts 3 rebounds 3 t.o's
  
  
  not stellar in my book
• ytownfootball

  

  shit...
  
  Would have liked this one at home, going to be tough to get on against Sparty at home.
• Mulva

  

  Footwedge wrote: You can't ask for a better shot than that. Purdue should have fouled...but they didn't. I don't understand why coaches don't foul in that situation.

  You can absolutely ask for a better shot than that. Diebler is not an off the dribble shooter. He's a catch and shoot guy.
  
  I'm fine with letting Buford attack, but once Diebler had it in the corner a timeout should have been called with 7-8 seconds left to set something up.
• mallymal614

  UA5straightin2008 wrote:

  karen lotz wrote:

  UA5straightin2008 wrote: god damnit it on iebler

  Have you not watched the rest of the game? Seriously give it a rest

  10 pts 3 rebounds 3 t.o's
  
  
  not stellar in my book

  Let the Diebler bashing begin!
• karen lotz

  

  UA5straightin2008 wrote:

  karen lotz wrote:

  UA5straightin2008 wrote: god damnit it on iebler

  Have you not watched the rest of the game? Seriously give it a rest

  10 pts 3 rebounds 3 t.o's
  
  
  not stellar in my book

  so you didn't watch the game? just looking at the box score? Diebler did do a pretty good job on defense.
• charliehustle14

  OSU did all they could to lose this game and still managed to almost win it.
  
  -How does Thad not call a TO at the end of the game?
  -Diebler was so freakin tentative to shoot that last second shot. He wasn't ever ready to shoot it because he didn't want to.
  -OSU missing some key wide open shots and FT's killed them tonight, as well as the pathetic performance by everyone not named Turner in the 1st half.
  -David Lighty kills me. I know what he can do offensively, but he lacks any consistency.
  -Give me Purdue again in the Big Ten tourney.
• mallymal614

  Mulva wrote:

  Footwedge wrote: You can't ask for a better shot than that. Purdue should have fouled...but they didn't. I don't understand why coaches don't foul in that situation.

  You can absolutely ask for a better shot than that. Diebler is not an off the dribble shooter. He's a catch and shoot guy.
  
  I'm fine with letting Buford attack, but once Diebler had it in the corner a timeout should have been called with 7-8 seconds left to set something up.

  THIS! I can see why he wouldn't call a timeout after the miss shot because that way Purdue can't set up their defense. But after Buford's shot was blocked, that is when a timeout should have been called.
• UA5straightin2008

  

  karen lotz wrote:

  UA5straightin2008 wrote:

  karen lotz wrote:

  UA5straightin2008 wrote: god damnit it on iebler

  Have you not watched the rest of the game? Seriously give it a rest

  10 pts 3 rebounds 3 t.o's
  
  
  not stellar in my book

  so you didn't watch the game? just looking at the box score? Diebler did do a pretty good job on defense.

  0 steals
  
  did watch the game, and what stood out was his travel at the end and his missed 3 pointer to tie it up..
• karen lotz

  

  You are a fool. Did Diebler smash your girlfriend or something?
• ytownfootball

  

  OSU missing some key wide open shots....
  
  Not just key, but a lot in general. Bad shooting nights happen, Deibler did his part, and he missed a game tying shot. I can't ruin on the guy for that, there's plenty of blame to go around, not just him.
• mallymal614

  karen lotz wrote: You are a fool. Did Diebler smash your girlfriend or something?

  lol. I have criticized Diebler in the past, but I too trying to figure out how people are blaming him for this one.
• UA5straightin2008

  

  ytownfootball wrote: OSU missing some key wide open shots....
  
  Not just key, but a lot in general. Bad shooting nights happen, Deibler did his part, and he missed a game tying shot. I can't ruin on the guy for that, there's plenty of blame to go around, not just him.

  not sayin it was just him, he just messed up twice in crunch time...yeah it was a hurried shot, but hes supposed to known for being such a clutch 3 point shooter...and travelling that late in a game? thats like a false start on 4th and goal with under a minute left...big time oops
  
  offensively, lighty and lauderdale were hardly a presence as well
• centralbucksfan

  charliehustle14 wrote: OSU did all they could to lose this game and still managed to almost win it.
  
  -How does Thad not call a TO at the end of the game?
  -Diebler was so freakin tentative to shoot that last second shot. He wasn't ever ready to shoot it because he didn't want to.
  -OSU missing some key wide open shots and FT's killed them tonight, as well as the pathetic performance by everyone not named Turner in the 1st half.
  -David Lighty kills me. I know what he can do offensively, but he lacks any consistency.
  -Give me Purdue again in the Big Ten tourney.

  I have NO Problem with NOT calling a timeout. Purdue is the BEST defensive team in the BIG TEN, period. If you let them get set, you may not even get the ball in bounds, let alone get a shot off.
  Secondly, get OFF DIEBLER!! Besides Turner, he was the only other player to show up. He played well on defense as well tonite!!
  If your going to criticize players, look NO further then Ligthy, Lauderdale(Johnson drilled him) AND BUFORD who was just BAD.
  If your going to put this game on Diebler, you are either flat our ignorant about the game of basketball, or just a flat out hater.(and I know we have a few of them here).
  
  The KEY in this game, once OSU got back in it, was about the 8 min mark when OSU had 3 possession to either tie or take the lead. It was 48-46 and they couldn't get over the hump. Purdue then went on a run to push it back to 8pts with under 5 min to go. During this time, Turner actually took 2/3 bad/long range shots. OSU had their opportunity to take the lead, get the crowd rocking and maybe go on a good run. They couldn't get over the hump.
  
  Game doesn't surprise me to be honest. I didn't expect a first half that poor. But I didn't have a good feeling going into this. Purdue is MUCH BETTER then people think they are. We were lucky to win at their place to be honest.
  OSU strength is shooting...well, they didn't shoot too well tonite obviously. It was that simple. Credit the Purdue defense.
• charliehustle14

  centralbucksfan wrote:

  charliehustle14 wrote: OSU did all they could to lose this game and still managed to almost win it.
  
  -How does Thad not call a TO at the end of the game?
  -Diebler was so freakin tentative to shoot that last second shot. He wasn't ever ready to shoot it because he didn't want to.
  -OSU missing some key wide open shots and FT's killed them tonight, as well as the pathetic performance by everyone not named Turner in the 1st half.
  -David Lighty kills me. I know what he can do offensively, but he lacks any consistency.
  -Give me Purdue again in the Big Ten tourney.

  I have NO Problem with NOT calling a timeout. Purdue is the BEST defensive team in the BIG TEN, period. If you let them get set, you may not even get the ball in bounds, let alone get a shot off.
  Secondly, get OFF DIEBLER!! Besides Turner, he was the only other player to show up.
  If your going to criticize players, look NO further then Ligthy, Lauderdale(Johnson drilled him) AND BUFORD who was just BAD.
  
  Game doesn't surprise me to be honest. I didn't expect a first half that poor. But I didn't have a good feeling going into this. Purdue is MUCH BETTER then people think they are. We were lucky to win at their place to be honest.
  OSU strength is shooting...well, they didn't shoot too well tonite obviously. It was that simple. Credit the Purdue defense.

  You really wouldn't call a TO? Purdue has a great defense but the chances of getting the 3 you need are greater when you're coming out of a timeout with a set play rather than during the end of game free for all. Turner was trailing that final offensive possession. You'd think a TO would be wise to at least give him a chance to have his hand in the end of the game.
  
  Those were my thoughts, I wasn't bashing anyone so go fuck off man. Get off my nuts about everything I post, or you and I will have some serious problems. You post a lot of garbage and I never seek your stupid ass out for everything I disagree with you about.
  
  Lighty, Buford, and Lauderdale killed OSU tonight, but I was only stating the fact that Diebler was tentative on that last shot...either he didn't want the ball in his hands or he wasn't sure if he should call a TO.
• centralbucksfan

  charliehustle14 wrote:

  centralbucksfan wrote:

  charliehustle14 wrote: OSU did all they could to lose this game and still managed to almost win it.
  
  -How does Thad not call a TO at the end of the game?
  -Diebler was so freakin tentative to shoot that last second shot. He wasn't ever ready to shoot it because he didn't want to.
  -OSU missing some key wide open shots and FT's killed them tonight, as well as the pathetic performance by everyone not named Turner in the 1st half.
  -David Lighty kills me. I know what he can do offensively, but he lacks any consistency.
  -Give me Purdue again in the Big Ten tourney.

  I have NO Problem with NOT calling a timeout. Purdue is the BEST defensive team in the BIG TEN, period. If you let them get set, you may not even get the ball in bounds, let alone get a shot off.
  Secondly, get OFF DIEBLER!! Besides Turner, he was the only other player to show up.
  If your going to criticize players, look NO further then Ligthy, Lauderdale(Johnson drilled him) AND BUFORD who was just BAD.
  
  Game doesn't surprise me to be honest. I didn't expect a first half that poor. But I didn't have a good feeling going into this. Purdue is MUCH BETTER then people think they are. We were lucky to win at their place to be honest.
  OSU strength is shooting...well, they didn't shoot too well tonite obviously. It was that simple. Credit the Purdue defense.

  You really wouldn't call a TO? Purdue has a great defense but the chances of getting the 3 you need are greater when you're coming out of a timeout with a set play rather than during the end of game free for all. Turner was trailing that final offensive possession. You'd think a TO would be wise to at least give him a chance to have his hand in the end of the game.
  
  Those were my thoughts, I wasn't bashing anyone so go fuck off man. Get off my nuts about everything I post, or you and I will have some serious problems. You post a lot of garbage and I never seek your stupid ass out for everything I disagree with you about.
  
  Lighty, Buford, and Lauderdale killed OSU tonight, but I was only stating the fact that Diebler was tentative on that last shot...either he didn't want the ball in his hands or he wasn't sure if he should call a TO.

  Serious problems? Go fuck off? How old are you, 12? Are you seriously threatening me over a computer? LOL Give me a break.
  And NO, I don't have a probem not calling a timeout. Its a coaches philosopophy. Some do, some don't. Bob Knight rarely called timeouts with clocks running down. For the very reason i stated, letting the defense get set. He said he had his plays already in. Often times in a scramble, something opens up. Just as it did for Diebler. He had a good look, probably better then what OSU would have had on a side out of bounds. It didn't go in.
  If you had any clue, you would realize that wasn't why the game was where it was. YOu can't spot a team like Purdue a lead like that at half. Teams RARELY come back from deficits like that vs quality teams. Thats why you see it on ESPN highlights...doesn't happen often.
  
  BTW, my "crap" that I post...well, go read my post on the first page about this game. My worst fears happened as I stated they couldn't for OSU to win.
• charliehustle14

  centralbucksfan wrote:

  charliehustle14 wrote:

  centralbucksfan wrote:

  charliehustle14 wrote: OSU did all they could to lose this game and still managed to almost win it.
  
  -How does Thad not call a TO at the end of the game?
  -Diebler was so freakin tentative to shoot that last second shot. He wasn't ever ready to shoot it because he didn't want to.
  -OSU missing some key wide open shots and FT's killed them tonight, as well as the pathetic performance by everyone not named Turner in the 1st half.
  -David Lighty kills me. I know what he can do offensively, but he lacks any consistency.
  -Give me Purdue again in the Big Ten tourney.

  I have NO Problem with NOT calling a timeout. Purdue is the BEST defensive team in the BIG TEN, period. If you let them get set, you may not even get the ball in bounds, let alone get a shot off.
  Secondly, get OFF DIEBLER!! Besides Turner, he was the only other player to show up.
  If your going to criticize players, look NO further then Ligthy, Lauderdale(Johnson drilled him) AND BUFORD who was just BAD.
  
  Game doesn't surprise me to be honest. I didn't expect a first half that poor. But I didn't have a good feeling going into this. Purdue is MUCH BETTER then people think they are. We were lucky to win at their place to be honest.
  OSU strength is shooting...well, they didn't shoot too well tonite obviously. It was that simple. Credit the Purdue defense.

  You really wouldn't call a TO? Purdue has a great defense but the chances of getting the 3 you need are greater when you're coming out of a timeout with a set play rather than during the end of game free for all. Turner was trailing that final offensive possession. You'd think a TO would be wise to at least give him a chance to have his hand in the end of the game.
  
  Those were my thoughts, I wasn't bashing anyone so go fuck off man. Get off my nuts about everything I post, or you and I will have some serious problems. You post a lot of garbage and I never seek your stupid ass out for everything I disagree with you about.
  
  Lighty, Buford, and Lauderdale killed OSU tonight, but I was only stating the fact that Diebler was tentative on that last shot...either he didn't want the ball in his hands or he wasn't sure if he should call a TO.

  Serious problems? Go fuck off? How old are you, 12? Are you seriously threatening me over a computer? LOL Give me a break.
  And NO, I don't have a probem not calling a timeout. Its a coaches philosopophy. Some do, some don't. Bob Knight rarely called timeouts with clocks running down. For the very reason i stated, letting the defense get set. He said he had his plays already in. Often times in a scramble, something opens up. Just as it did for Diebler. He had a good look, probably better then what OSU would have had on a side out of bounds. It didn't go in.
  If you had any clue, you would realize that wasn't why the game was where it was. YOu can't spot a team like Purdue a lead like that at half. Teams RARELY come back from deficits like that vs quality teams. Thats why you see it on ESPN highlights...doesn't happen often.

  No, I'm 20. And don't give me that 'you take internet too serious shit'...especially coming from you. With the way you always run to Diebler's side every time someone says one thing about him, I think you're the one who takes the whole concept of the internet way too serious.
  
  OSU played like a pack of retarded cavemen in the first half and got it together in the 2nd half. The way OSU played in the 1st half, they had no business being in the game, I agree. But that still doesn't change the fact that OSU actually did come back, seized the momentum in front of the home crowd, and then let Purdue off the hook with some very impatient, ill-advised shots. It doesn't change the fact that I wish OSU would have ran a play following a TO with 8 seconds left to set up a catch and shoot situation for someone, Diebler or not. It doesn't change the fact about how pissed I am about the way Lauderdale and Lighty both crapped out tonight. It doesn't change the fact that tonight's game has really set OSU back as far as winning the Big Ten goes.
• thedynasty1998

  

  I've been as critical as anyone of Diebler, but I actually thought he played fairly well tonight. Could he have done more? Sure. But everyone can say that when your team loses. He actually made some hustle plays that I haven't seen often this year.
  
  Turner was an absolute stud, and I'm not bashing him at all, but I wish he was more aggressive when they cut the lead (maybe even tied it) and then he fired up two 3's without really attacking. But that's being nit-picky on someone who did everything for this team.
  
  Buford didn't show up until the 2nd half, so that hurt.
  
  And Johnson ate up Lauderdale and the OSU defense which really hurt as well.
  
  Overall, OSU lost a close one to a top 4 team after playing as bad as possible in the 1st half. I'm not too concerned with this loss, but they have to rebound quickly and try to stay in contention for the Big 10 with a win against Michigan State.
• thedynasty1998

  

  And anyone who thinks OSU gets a better shot at the end of the game after a timeout just doesn't know basketball. Diebler got a great look, and he doesn't get that look if Purdue had the chance to setup their defense and discuss how they were going to defend the final play.
• charliehustle14

  thedynasty1998 wrote: I've been as critical as anyone of Diebler, but I actually thought he played fairly well tonight. Could he have done more? Sure. But everyone can say that when your team loses. He actually made some hustle plays that I haven't seen often this year.
  
  Turner was an absolute stud, and I'm not bashing him at all, but I wish he was more aggressive when they cut the lead (maybe even tied it) and then he fired up two 3's without really attacking. But that's being nit-picky on someone who did everything for this team.
  
  Buford didn't show up until the 2nd half, so that hurt.
  
  And Johnson ate up Lauderdale and the OSU defense which really hurt as well.
  
  Overall, OSU lost a close one to a top 4 team after playing as bad as possible in the 1st half. I'm not too concerned with this loss, but they have to rebound quickly and try to stay in contention for the Big 10 with a win against Michigan State.

  Anyone who says Diebler didn't play well tonight didn't watch well enough. My only gripe was that series at the end of the game when he seemed like he didn't know what to do with the ball in that situation.
  
  I agree with you about Turner, too. Like Jim Jack said, Turner was settling for the long J instead of staying in attack mode. And obviously, Turner is a lot better at attacking than shooting from the perimeter.
  
  I still can't believe Lauderdale played that terrible on D tonight. He let Johnson eat him alive and his help side D was non-existent. Not to mention the one time when he backed off his man and let him drain a wide open 3 as a result of a communication breakdown. A very forgettable experience for Dallas tonight.